Description

this room and system is the result of 10 years in High End audio. my system has been stable for a couple of years (except for transport and amplifier upgrades within the same brand). the room has been in the planning stage for about 18 months and i actually moved in a little over a month ago.

my audio philosphy is to have the system get out of the way of the event. i like as pure and simple a signal path as possible and, at this point, prefer passive to active gain stages. i love all the formats and enjoy having lot's of music.....vinyl is my favorite but i listen to at least 60% digital. the new room really reveals the benefits of SACD over redbook.

the system and room truely allow the event to be recreated before me. i love the way the speakers disappear and i am transported to another place/time.

i have choosen my cables, sources, amps, speakers to have as little of their own sound as possible.

recently, i upgraded my digtial transport from the modified Philips SACD 1000 to the new emmlabs CDSD.....this was a significant step upward in performance.

i have written an article in Positive Feedback regarding my room building experience.....here is a link;

http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue16/lavigneroom.htm
Read more...

Room Details

Dimensions: 29’ × 21’  X large
Ceiling: 11’


Components Toggle details

    • Evolution Acoustics MM7's
    twin towers, 600 pounds each, main passive tower, 82 inches tall, active bass tower, 84 inches tall.

    passive main tower, 97db, 7 ohms, so easy load. active bass tower has 4 analog adjustments for ideal room integration.
    • darTZeel NHB-468
    Mono block Amplifiers. amazing first watt, transparent and rich tonality. great match for my speakers.
    • darTZeel NHB-18NS with 2 internal phono stages.
    battery powered preamp with 2 separate phono stages. uses BNC 'zeel' cables between pre and amps.
    • Evolution Acoustics 7.5 meter 'Zeel'
    7.5 meter pair of BNC cables from preamp to amps.
    • Evolution Acoustics 'System' speaker cables--10 feet
    new version of these cables, a big step over the amazing TRSC model i have used for 10 years. fantastic performance.
    • WADAX SA Reference DAC
    Wadax Reference Dac----state of the art dac with 2 separate power supplies. the best dac i have heard by a good margin. below is a link to a thread about my Wadax experience.

    https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/wadax-reference-dac-and-server-arrive.34173/#post-771357
    • WADAX SA Reference Server with Akasa optical interface
    ultimate state of the art music server using Roon. includes the Akasa optical interface.
    • WADAX SA Reference Server power supply
    additional chassis power supply to improve the Wadax server performance.

    https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/wadax-server-psu-unit-has-now-arrived.36722/page-6#post-948318
    • WADAX SA Akasa DC cables (3)
    replaces the standard DC cables. takes the performance of the Wadax Reference system to 'Level 4' for ultimate performance. Red in color.

    https://wadax.eu/akasa/

    https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/wadax-server-psu-unit-has-now-arrived.36722/page-9#post-971100
    • Arya RevOpod isolation footer (32 used under the 5 Wadax Chassis).
    height and tension adjustable. the Wadax dac, server, and server power supply chassis all use 8 footers, so it's critical to be able to adjust height and tension to have an even support for optimal performance. RevOpod's are unique in those attributes making them ideal for this use.

    https://www.arya-audio.com/revopod
    • CS Port LFT1 turntable w/arm
    air bearing platter and air bearing linear tracking arm; string drive with zero feedback dc motor, low pressure, low flow air system with zero noise air box.

    world class musical flow, nuance and delicacy, combined with authority and ease. serves the music completely.
    • Esoteric T1 Turntable
    magnetic drive/rim drive idler turntable with torque adjustment.

    with the deletion of my NVS turntable, i was able to move the Taiko Tana active isolation shelf to under the Esoteric T1. this has upgraded the performance of the T1 significantly. objectively small changes, but musically quite profound up tics in realism and immersion. more nuance, greater music focus, better bass articulation. 

    https://www.esoteric.jp/en/product/t1/top
    • Esoteric G1X Master Clock
    Master Clock Generator for speed improvement for the T1 turntable. significant improvement in music realism.

    https://www.esoteric.jp/en/product/g1x/top
    • Durand --Tosca tonearm.
    gimbal bearing design. Tosca is on the Esoteric T1 turntable
    • Primary Control 12" FCL tone arm
    Field Coil Loaded uni-pivot tone arm. with power supply. mounted on the Esoteric T1 turntable. amazing natural and very high resolution tone arm. link below.

    https://www.primarycontrol.nl/Field_Coil_Loaded_Unipivot_Tonearm.html
    • Glanz MH-1200S 12" tone arm
    12 inch tonearm, stainless steel. used for the Sumile mono cartridge.

    https://glanz.tech/e/collection/mh1200s1000s900s/
    • Experience Music/Intact Audio phono corrector + silver wound MC Trio SUT combo for three different tonearms.
    bespoke tubed phono preamplifier. silver wound, with custom dual power supplies.

    https://myemia.com/LR.html
    • LFD -3- Phono Cables DIN to RCA
    3 sets of very high performance phono cables. amazing performance. built by Dr. Richard Bews in the UK.

    one cable uses a DIN to RCA short Dongle + an RCA to RCA interconnect. the Dongle improves the performance of the DIN connection. details at the link below.

    https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/lfd-cables-phono-and-i-c-from-the-uk-cables-as-components.31243/
    • DaVa Reference cartridge
    field coil cartridge. with tube power supply.
    • two Etsuro Golds, ---a pair of Reference MC Phono Cartridges.
    duraluminim (A7075) body, 24 carat 'Kinpaku' Gold Leaf finish, diamond cantiliver. .3mv output, 4 ohms. these are both special versions of the Etsuro Gold.

    one is mounted on the CS Port linear tracker.

    one is mounted on the Primary Control FCL arm.

    finest cartridge i have heard by a significant margin. WOW!
    • Audio Technica MC-2022 60th Anniversary cartridge
    uses the unified stylus cantilever design. which results in extreme lack of distortion and linearity. remarkable neutrality and ability to dig out detail and keep it natural and musical.

    https://www.audio-technica.com/en-us/at-mc2022
    • Murasakino Sumile Mono phono cartridge
    MC cartridge for mono records, .04mv output. tracking force 3gms. finest monaural cartridge i have heard. competes on musical refinement with the top stereo cartridges. 

    https://murasakino.audio/en/products/sumile-mono.html

    Mounted on the Glanz MH-1200S tonearm. mounted on the Esoteric T1 turntable.
    • DS Audio Ion 001 Vinyl Ionizer
    generates positive and negative ions to remove static charge from vinyl records. 

    https://ds-audio-w.biz/products/181/
    • CS Port Static Eliminator IME1 (two of them)
    An unprecedented accessory focusing on cartridge friction. It suppresses the effects of static electricity and makes records clearer.

    one is on the CS Port tt, one on the Esoteric T1 tt.

    https://www.csport.audio/products/products-ime1-en.html
    • Stage III Concepts 1.5 meter XLR set of Gorgon interconnects.
    high performance interconnects. used from the Wadax Reference dac to the darTZeel preamp.

    http://aaudioimports.com/ShowProduct.asp?hProduct=283
    • Ampex twin ATR-102----one 1/4" and one 1/2" reel to reel master recorder
    hot rodded by ATR Service Inc----Andrew Kosobutsky. significant upgrades over stock. each interfacing with hot rodded Ampex MR-70 preamps. the new tape deck performance standard in my opinion.

    https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/ak-hot-rodded-ampex-atr-102s-w-mr-70-preamps-replaces-my-studers.36288/
    • Kosobutsky 1.5 meter set of RCA interconnects + 8 meter set of XLR interconnects.
    1.5 meter set of RCA interconnects are used between the EMIA phono corrector and the darTZeel preamp.

    8 meter set is used between the Ampex MR 70 tape preamps and the darTZeel preamp.
    • Nordost QRT QNET network switch
    Network switch, with Nordost Qsource power supply.

    https://www.nordost.com/qrt-audio-enhancers.php
    • Synology 30 Terabyte NAS (a pair = 60 TB) music file storage
    mirroring music storage for my music files.
    • Massif Audio Design Audio Racks, solid wood
    2--double wide 3 shelf racks for sources

    1 single wide rack 4 shelf rack for Ampex MR-70 tape preamp chassis.

    https://www.massifaudiodesign.com/racks
    • Nordost Sort Fut rack footers (3 sets of 4)
    mechanically tuned resonance control device. supporting the three Massif racks.

    https://www.nordost.com/sort-systems/sort-fut.php
    • Taiko Tana (5 of them) Herzan TS-150 (2) + TS-140 (3)
    active isolation under 5 separate components: (1) the NVS turntable, (2) the MSB dac, (3) the darTZeel preamp, (4 + 5) both darTZeel mono block amplifiers. custom modifications by Taiko Audio add a linear power supply plus panzerholtz top layer + Daiza platform to provide full frequency resonance attenuation to each platform.
    • Taiko Audio Daiza isolation platform--22 used in the system
    Panzerholtz Platform with spiral cutouts reducing mid and high frequency resonance while retaining life and energy and not changing tonality.

    22 Daiza platforms in the system of various sizes under every piece of the signal path.
    • Evolution Acoustics 'system' power cables
    a new version of the TRPC model i used on my darTZeel 468 mono blocks for the last 10 years. a big step up.
    • Sablon Audio King power cord
    used on the Wadax Reference Server power supply.

    https://www.sablonaudio.com/power
    • Absolute Fidelity power interfaces
    power cords specifically designed for either motors (tt and tape decks), amplifiers, and components. 11 in the system.
    • Tripoint Audio Troy Signature
    Grounding box for chassis grounding the darTZeel 458 mono block amplifiers + grounding the passive main towers of the Evolution Acoustics MM7 speaker system.
    • Tripoint Audio Elite
    Tripoint Elite grounding box. this does chassis grounding for my sources. it uses a a pair of Tripoint Thor SE Master Reference ground cables for my dart preamp and the MSB Select II dac. there are also 4 Signature Silver ground cables to the two arm boards of the NVS tt, the power supply of the NVS tt, and the SGM server.
    • Equi=tech 10WQ
    10kva balanced Isoltion transformer and distribution panel.
    • Furutech GTX-D NCF Rhodium duplex outlets
    10 in the system. used with 10 Furutech covers and frames. uses NCF (nano crystal formula) material to reduce noise by emitting negative ions.
    • Wave Kinetics A10 U8 decoupling footers
    8 sets-of-4 in the system for individual tuning of each piece of gear.
    • Auralex T-Fusor diffusers
    i use 20 of these. 6 each on the front side walls, and 4 each front ceiling and rear ceiling.
    • Klaudio Record Cleaning System
    automatic record cleaner
    • Acoustic Revive RL-30 mKIII CD-LP demagnatizer
    for demaging any disc.
    • Furutech DF-2 LP disc flattner
    will remove warps from Lps
    • Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Anniversary Ed.
    will cook any cables
    • Winds ALM-01 Stylus Force Gauge
    easy accurate, repeatable, measurments.
    • i-Tower by Koncept LED floor lamp
    (3) are used. best audio light ever. 2 'warm', 1 'cool'.
    • Quietrock THX 545 drywall
    specialized drywall with a 1/4" metal layer. used in my front sidewalls to establish proper room boundaries.
    • Barn.... ......room is....
    ....most of the ground floor. 29' x 21' x 11'.

Comments 3397

hello Mike I truly envy your room I'm sure the sonics match the awesome aesthetics.

mejames

Owner
thanks Linkoping for the recommendation....i'll check it out.

mikelavigne

Mahler 5, the best is Eliahu Inbal conduct the Frankfurt Radio Symphony Orchestra, recorded by Denon, Japan. I have more than 10 version of Mahler 5 and this recording is the best, I mean the BEST!

linkoping

Owner
Vvrinc, as a Classical newbie, i don't know my Mahlers......although i like my Mahlers.

i will steadfastly avoid any attempts at Classical humor in the future so as not to expose my feeble level of knowledge.

thanks for the heads-up.

mikelavigne

Well, if you want to die while listening to a Mahler symphony, please do it while listening to the 2nd. (If you know your Mahlers, further explanation is not necessary). 8>)

vvrinc

Owner
Stanley, thanks. i do live east of Seattle. you would be welcome to come for a listen to my system......it matters not your system.....just your interest. e-mail me and we will figure out a time.

Linkoping, thanks....you are correct.....the Mahler 5th (in fact, any Mahler) sounds great in my room. in fact, i was listening to Michael Tilson Thomas's Mahler 3rd last night......heavenly.

.....but i didn't die. ;^)

mikelavigne

Oh my gosh. Speechless. I just imagine listen to Mahler 5 in your system... I will die for sure.

linkoping

Hi Mike,

Look like it is the best system in Audiogon. Are you living in Seattle Area. Are you kindly to meet some not so much hi end guy in Seattle? Sure I would like to hear your system someday in Seattle.

Good for you Mike,
Stanley

tiger7s

Owner
see above above about 16 or 17 posts for an answer to your question.

...and thanks for the kind comments.

mikelavigne

Great system, great room but it looks lonely in there without any other chairs. Do you only listen by yourself?

russ20901

Owner
Lordcloud, when you stated that "Roy did give an answer as to his experience with the Sirius (i assume you mean Sirius III), it seems like he had quite a bit of time with it." clearly you missed the WHOLE point of my letter to HiFi+.....and that was my request for specific instances of his experience with the Sirius III. based on what i understand to be the case, and supported by Roy's lack of specific response, these specific instances of legitimate comparitive opportunity never occured. Absolute Analogue never had a Sirius III for use as a 'demo'; they only had one or two that were 'pre-sold' and paid for. it is a major hassel to set-up or move the Sirius III and would not be something you would just 'take home for a couple of days'.

you elected in your initial post to bring this issue up. from my letter, it should be clear this is not a casual issue to me. even though your intent may have been innocent.....if i really believe what i wrote then hopefully you understand that i just can't ignore your interpretation of Roy's response.

since your initial post said "they are all components i myself would choose, if i had the money. the exception being the turntable."......i assumed that the price was not the issue and that it must be your perception of performance.....which was why i asked about your listening experience.

i appreciate that the main focus of your post was to give me positive feedback of my system and room.....and i do thank you for that.

i am serious (Sirius) about some things.....as you have, by now, discovered. mostly i try not to take myself (or my system) too seriously.

i appreciate your comments about having to do web (or other) reasearch on gear. i have only listened to the SME 30 briefly and the Walker a couple of times at Shows and then recently at a friend's home. i am impressed by what i heard from both tt's but don't have enough experience to draw clear conclusions. i did purchase both my speakers and tt without hearing either......sometimes you just have to wing it. in both occasions i had 'done my homework' to the degree possible but it was still a little daunting.

best regards,

mikelavigne

Mike,

I say I would choose a table besides the Rockport because of price concerns, and even that is only in my dreams. I am not in the market for any of these tables, but if I were, I imagine I would save money ($50,000) and go with the Walker or the SME. But I haven't heard them all, so maybe upon hearing them, I would be able to justify the extra amount of money spent.

There are actually quite a few audio components I would not buy without ever hearing them, no matter what the price. I will never buy another speaker that is not time and phase accurate for instance. In all honesty, many people have no choice but to buy audio components they haven't heard, simply because of where they live. I live in Utah, the only speakers you can listen to out here are Wilson and B&W, neither of which I could live with. I have had to do much research on the web and in magazines before I came to purchase what I have, and I am actually quite happy so far. I would love to be able to listen to everything before I buy it, but even then I would not feel I had a grasp on what they would sound like unless I had an extended listening period in my own home.

Anyway, I did not mean for my message to you to take any turns into the argumentative, I was complimenting you on your beautiful system. And a beautiful system it is.

lordcloud

Owner
Rcr, thanks.

i plan on selling my DAC6 (and Philips SACD 1000) to try the DCC2 (and CDSD) for the reasons you state.....when i have the time to list it.

mikelavigne

Owner
Cello,

thanks.

i use the vdH Colibri almost exclusively.....but it warms my heart knowing my Koetsu is sitting there patiently waiting to sing sweetly when called upon.

the Colibri is so dynamic and explosive i just can't bear to take it out of the system.....to me the perfect cartridge. it tells me exactly what is happening....good or bad. if the record is edgy....so be it.

i also have a Mytlewood Colibi XGW 6.5mv output.....which is a little softer and smoother than the XCP 8.5 i mostly use.

my sonic priorities are for the system/cartridge to get out of the way......and have no signature of it's own. the Colibri XCP 8.5 does that better than any other piece of gear i have ever heard.

that said......i do enjoy having the choice of another direction if the mood strikes me.

mikelavigne

Owner
Lordcloud, Roy Gregory most clearly did NOT answer my questions.

1. i asked "i would appreciate some very specific info on the context of Roy's experience with the Sirius III."

Roy replies "I used to work for Absolute Analogue, during which times i heard the Sirius III in systems of both the company's owners as well as taking the deck home. I was also responsible for taking the deck to customer's homes and a number of HiFi Shows."

Roy's answer gives not one specific description for the reader to judge context.....which was what i was asking for. besides which my info is that Absolute Analogue only had a Sirius III for a very short time prior to delivery to a customer that had purchased it. The Clearaudio Master Reference that Roy then refers to had not even been introduced at the the time Absolute Analogue had the Sirius III in their posession (back in 1998).

2. why did Roy mistake the Sirius III arm for the Rockport 7000 arm?

not answered. Roy makes a big deal of the Rockport arm issues without even knowing which arm he is talking about.

3. why did Roy not disclose the 5+ years between listening to the Sirius III and the Blue Pearl?

not answered.

My opinion is that Roy did have a good deal of experience with prior Rockport tt's and very limited exposure to the Sirius III......and that he has been intentionally unclear to cover those tracks. Until Roy cites very specific information on specific comparisons and systems his conclusions on that Blue Pearl review are pretty suspect.

that is just one guy's viewpoint.

You have concluded that you would not choose the Rockport without ever hearing it. like i said....curious.

as you can see, this is a little sensitive with me. the reason is that i try to be especially careful to keep my opinions in specific contexts...."to my ears, in my system".

when a 'guru'.....stands up and lables something 'the new King' based primarily on his experience with the prior 'King'......there needs to be clear contexts.

in this case there was NONE.

mikelavigne

The only one of these I've had the pleasure of hearing was the SME with the Aesthetix phono preamp with two power supplies. It was a mind altering experience to say te least. I haven't gotten to hear the Sirius or the Walker as of yet. By the way Roy did give an answer as to his experience with the Sirius, it seems like he has had quite a bit of time with it. But since joining the local Audiophile Society I have realized that my idea of audio nirvana is very different from everyone else's. I have also learned that it takes far longer than the typical reviewer's amount of time with a component to ascertain what it actually sounds like, let alone the potential of a component. My system, although meager compared to most audiophiles, does some things better than any other I have heard. It is only because of my extensive time with my components, and almost maniacal attention to set up details that I was able to coax real music out of my system. I applaud your efforts to do the same with your system, and also your willingness to share that with the rest of our small but fanatical world.

lordcloud

Mike, you are one of the most influetial audiophiles in Audiogon. Your oppinions have always a great value and I always read them eagerly, because you have many things to show to all of us. For example, the now legendary sinergy between Tenor and Kharma.

Now you have do it again, you have build the system we all would like to build. Amazing.

The only question is, have you compared the DCC2 to the DAC6? Most people say the two channel version is better.

Congratulations and thanks for your help.

rcr

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Mike,
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Congratulations on an amazing system and a gorgeous room - as good as it gets !
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Do you tend to listen more to the Koetsu RSP or the Van den Hul Colibri ? How do you compare what they do ?
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Rgds, Larry
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cello

Owner
Lordcloud, thanks.....i do feel lucky.

curious; your comment is unclear......which of the tt's have you heard? where did you hear the Sirius III?......which was really the only question i was asking Roy (the specific context of his experience with the Sirius III).....and he never answered.......of course, his lack of specifics tells all.

if you are in the neighborhood you wouldn't get a no.

mikelavigne

Seriously, You have to be one of, if not the luckiest Audiophile on this green Earth. I love your system, they are all components that I myself would choose, if I had the money. The only exception being the turntable. I know you are love your TT(I read your letter in Hi-Fi+, by the way it was sad that I knew who you were just by the listing of your components before I got to the name at the bottom), But I would probably go with the Walker, or the SME after actualy hearing one. But anyway, great system, and if I'm ever in your neck of the woods I won't take no for an answer, I'm spending the day listening!

lordcloud

Owner
Bob, thanks. you would be most welcome.....have fun in Spain.....it's nice to know there is life beyond audio.....

....i likely owe my wife a trip or five at this point......

Tim, i will always be YOUR friend regardless of what chair you use......lately.....it seems everyone is my friend.....maybe it's my hairstyle.....

Greg and Scagneti, thanks.

mikelavigne

That has to be one of the nicest rooms I've never heard. I bet it sounds even better than it looks. Well deserved are the accolades you receive.

scagneti

On the chair, those are incredible to sit in- if had no friends- I am close but not there yet ;) I would have one in my room that day!

tireguy

I never thought it would happen. I am speechless.

gregadd

Mike, I came over to Spain for a little R&R this week. I guess I should have headed west instead of east. Looks totally awesome!

I told my wife that at some point in time, if you permit, my frequent flyer miles are going to be reduced to head up your way. It would be great to hear Kharmas in a location they should be in.

Enjoy, enjoy, enjoy and hope to contact you when I get home to get some more impressions from you.

Best Regards....Bob

stenersr

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