Hi Bdp24

what an interesting assortment
Thanks. It was all acquired used. Three cheers for the frequent flyer audiophile. :^)
Actually that's not quite right. The OTL's were bought new. I really wanted them to work but they failed my test of time.
The reference ET 2.5 tonearm was also a new custom build from Bruce.

It's going to take me quite a while to read through all the responses and discussion of your systems Ct, but I'm sure gonna do it.
You know, Sometimes when I think about, I get little concerned about what I might have said here on the 'Gon. Its after all hardcoded in the thread. Even more so on the ET2 thread because I can't delete that thread like this one. But I never go back to look. I figure, I am just being upfront with what I hear and experience; and it is what it is. I do however "really" like the freedom I have to say what I feel (within reason obviously) as I am not part of the Audio Business in any way. This includes special relationship privileges with some manufacturers. I don't have to worry about offending any business partners. :^)

We obviously hear things similarly to some degree, both having old Quad and ET LFT-8 loudspeakers, and Music Reference power amps.
I just can't say enough, about how good the Quad 57's sound with the Music Reference RM10 amp, which Roger designed for his own 57's. Every music lover and audiophile should have this combo. RM10 and Quad 57's set up somewhere in their house. This combo keeps me grounded. The B&W matrix 800 series line is all about tuning. What gets fed in comes out. I have tuned their midrange, to sound like the midrange on the 57's. They are in very different but adjacent rooms. Both rooms can be heard by standing in the doorway of Room A.

The Quad 57' design is older than me but the actual speakers panels themselves are only a about 6 ? years old having been rebuilt by Wayne Picquet.

QUAD - Quality Amplifier for Domestic Use.

From an interview with the late Peter Walker at Quad Factory 1978

Peter Walker Interview

my comments on a couple points.

(On adding Woofers to Quads.)

PW: We try to keep out of it. Two or three people have made good attempts at
this, adding woofers. It's not that easy to do. Initially it's quite impressive, but to
try to give this a homogenous sound is difficult. Another thing people do is to use
two of our panels, one above the other. This is quite reasonable because it is
really a strip source, you can extend the strip source without deteriorating
anything. All you do is add 6dB at the bottom end and 3dB everywhere else. It
gives you a louder sound, a more impressive sound. That's all right. Adding
woofers has never been very good.

(So stacked quads give you more db in the bass but they still won't play the bottom octave. I am currently experimenting with sub/s as a fall/winter project. I feel I have found the answer but need to do more listening. What a chore that is . Can u imagine this being your everyday job...listening to music?)

(on Audio Philosophy)

PW: We don't produce a new product every six months or even 12 months, no.
Only two reasons for producing a new model: either you did it wrong the first time
or there's been a fundamental improvement in the science. Fundamental
improvements in the science come very infrequently.

(You know. I love my ARC gear; but I wonder what today's Audio Research corporate & marketing folks would think about his philosophy ? )

ct0517 October 28, 2015 12:06

Hi Bdp24

what an interesting assortment
Thanks. It was all acquired used. Three cheers for the frequent flyer audiophile. :^)
Actually that's not quite right. The OTL's were bought new. I really wanted them to work but they failed my test of time.
The reference ET 2.5 tonearm was also a new custom build from Bruce.

It's going to take me quite a while to read through all the responses and discussion of your systems Ct, but I'm sure gonna do it.
You know, Sometimes when I think about, I get little concerned about what I might have said here on the 'Gon. Its after all hardcoded in the thread. Even more so on the ET2 thread because I can't delete that thread like this one. But I never go back to look. I figure, I am just being upfront with what I hear and experience; and it is what it is. I do however "really" like the freedom I have to say what I feel (within reason obviously) as I am not part of the Audio Business in any way. This includes special relationship privileges with some manufacturers. I don't have to worry about offending any business partners. :^)

We obviously hear things similarly to some degree, both having old Quad and ET LFT-8 loudspeakers, and Music Reference power amps.
I just can't say enough, about how good the Quad 57's sound with the Music Reference RM10 amp, which Roger designed for his own 57's. Every music lover and audiophile should have this combo. RM10 and Quad 57's set up somewhere in their house. This combo keeps me grounded. The B&W matrix 800 series line is all about tuning. What gets fed in comes out. I have tuned their midrange, to sound like the midrange on the 57's. They are in very different but adjacent rooms. Both rooms can be heard by standing in the doorway of Room A.

The Quad 57' design is older than me but the actual speakers panels themselves are only a about 6 ? years old having been rebuilt by Wayne Picquet.

QUAD - Quality Amplifier for Domestic Use.

From an interview with the late Peter Walker at Quad Factory 1978

Peter Walker Interview

my comments on a couple points.

(On adding Woofers to Quads.)

PW: We try to keep out of it. Two or three people have made good attempts at
this, adding woofers. It's not that easy to do. Initially it's quite impressive, but to
try to give this a homogenous sound is difficult. Another thing people do is to use
two of our panels, one above the other. This is quite reasonable because it is
really a strip source, you can extend the strip source without deteriorating
anything. All you do is add 6dB at the bottom end and 3dB everywhere else. It
gives you a louder sound, a more impressive sound. That's all right. Adding
woofers has never been very good.

(So stacked quads give you more db in the bass but they still won't play the bottom octave. I am currently experimenting with sub/s as a fall/winter project. I feel I have found the answer but need to do more listening. What a chore that is . Can u imagine this being your everyday job...listening to music?)

(on Audio Philosophy)

PW: We don't produce a new product every six months or even 12 months, no.
Only two reasons for producing a new model: either you did it wrong the first time
or there's been a fundamental improvement in the science. Fundamental
improvements in the science come very infrequently.

(You know. I love my ARC gear; but I wonder what today's Audio Research corporate & marketing folks would think about his philosophy ? )

ct0517 October 28, 2015 12:06

Hi Bdp24

what an interesting assortment
Thanks. It was all acquired used. Three cheers for the frequent flyer audiophile. :^)
Actually that's not quite right. The OTL's were bought new. I really wanted them to work but they failed my test of time.
The reference ET 2.5 tonearm was also a new custom build from Bruce.

It's going to take me quite a while to read through all the responses and discussion of your systems Ct, but I'm sure gonna do it.
You know, Sometimes when I think about, I get little concerned about what I might have said here on the 'Gon. Its after all hardcoded in the thread. Even more so on the ET2 thread because I can't delete that thread like this one. But I never go back to look. I figure, I am just being upfront with what I hear and experience; and it is what it is. I do however "really" like the freedom I have to say what I feel (within reason obviously) as I am not part of the Audio Business in any way. This includes special relationship privileges with some manufacturers. I don't have to worry about offending any business partners. :^)

We obviously hear things similarly to some degree, both having old Quad and ET LFT-8 loudspeakers, and Music Reference power amps.
I just can't say enough, about how good the Quad 57's sound with the Music Reference RM10 amp, which Roger designed for his own 57's. Every music lover and audiophile should have this combo. RM10 and Quad 57's set up somewhere in their house. This combo keeps me grounded. The B&W matrix 800 series line is all about tuning. What gets fed in comes out. I have tuned their midrange, to sound like the midrange on the 57's. They are in very different but adjacent rooms. Both rooms can be heard by standing in the doorway of Room A.

The Quad 57' design is older than me but the actual speakers panels themselves are only a about 6 ? years old having been rebuilt by Wayne Picquet.

QUAD - Quality Amplifier for Domestic Use.

From an interview with the late Peter Walker at Quad Factory 1978

Peter Walker Interview

my comments on a couple points.

(On adding Woofers to Quads.)

PW: We try to keep out of it. Two or three people have made good attempts at
this, adding woofers. It's not that easy to do. Initially it's quite impressive, but to
try to give this a homogenous sound is difficult. Another thing people do is to use
two of our panels, one above the other. This is quite reasonable because it is
really a strip source, you can extend the strip source without deteriorating
anything. All you do is add 6dB at the bottom end and 3dB everywhere else. It
gives you a louder sound, a more impressive sound. That's all right. Adding
woofers has never been very good.

(So stacked quads give you more db in the bass but they still won't play the bottom octave. I am currently experimenting with sub/s as a fall/winter project. I feel I have found the answer but need to do more listening. What a chore that is . Can u imagine this being your everyday job...listening to music?)

(on Audio Philosophy)

PW: We don't produce a new product every six months or even 12 months, no.
Only two reasons for producing a new model: either you did it wrong the first time
or there's been a fundamental improvement in the science. Fundamental
improvements in the science come very infrequently.

(You know. I love my ARC gear; but I wonder what today's Audio Research corporate & marketing folks would think about his philosophy ? )

ct0517 October 28, 2015 12:06

Hi Bdp24

what an interesting assortment
Thanks. It was all acquired used. Three cheers for the frequent flyer audiophile. :^)
Actually that's not quite right. The OTL's were bought new. I really wanted them to work but they failed my test of time.
The reference ET 2.5 tonearm was also a new custom build from Bruce.

It's going to take me quite a while to read through all the responses and discussion of your systems Ct, but I'm sure gonna do it.
You know, Sometimes when I think about, I get little concerned about what I might have said here on the 'Gon. Its after all hardcoded in the thread. Even more so on the ET2 thread because I can't delete that thread like this one. But I never go back to look. I figure, I am just being upfront with what I hear and experience; and it is what it is. I do however "really" like the freedom I have to say what I feel (within reason obviously) as I am not part of the Audio Business in any way. This includes special relationship privileges with some manufacturers. I don't have to worry about offending any business partners. :^)

We obviously hear things similarly to some degree, both having old Quad and ET LFT-8 loudspeakers, and Music Reference power amps.
I just can't say enough, about how good the Quad 57's sound with the Music Reference RM10 amp, which Roger designed for his own 57's. Every music lover and audiophile should have this combo. RM10 and Quad 57's set up somewhere in their house. This combo keeps me grounded. The B&W matrix 800 series line is all about tuning. What gets fed in comes out. I have tuned their midrange, to sound like the midrange on the 57's. They are in very different but adjacent rooms. Both rooms can be heard by standing in the doorway of Room A.

The Quad 57' design is older than me but the actual speakers panels themselves are only a about 6 ? years old having been rebuilt by Wayne Picquet.

QUAD - Quality Amplifier for Domestic Use.

From an interview with the late Peter Walker at Quad Factory 1978

Peter Walker Interview

my comments on a couple points.

(On adding Woofers to Quads.)

PW: We try to keep out of it. Two or three people have made good attempts at
this, adding woofers. It's not that easy to do. Initially it's quite impressive, but to
try to give this a homogenous sound is difficult. Another thing people do is to use
two of our panels, one above the other. This is quite reasonable because it is
really a strip source, you can extend the strip source without deteriorating
anything. All you do is add 6dB at the bottom end and 3dB everywhere else. It
gives you a louder sound, a more impressive sound. That's all right. Adding
woofers has never been very good.

(So stacked quads give you more db in the bass but they still won't play the bottom octave. I am currently experimenting with sub/s as a fall/winter project. I feel I have found the answer but need to do more listening. What a chore that is . Can u imagine this being your everyday job...listening to music?)

(on Audio Philosophy)

PW: We don't produce a new product every six months or even 12 months, no.
Only two reasons for producing a new model: either you did it wrong the first time
or there's been a fundamental improvement in the science. Fundamental
improvements in the science come very infrequently.

(You know. I love my ARC gear; but I wonder what today's Audio Research corporate & marketing folks would think about his philosophy ? )

ct0517 October 28, 2015 12:06

Hi Bdp24

what an interesting assortment
Thanks. It was all acquired used. Three cheers for the frequent flyer audiophile. :^)
Actually that's not quite right. The OTL's were bought new. I really wanted them to work but they failed my test of time.
The reference ET 2.5 tonearm was also a new custom build from Bruce.

It's going to take me quite a while to read through all the responses and discussion of your systems Ct, but I'm sure gonna do it.
You know, Sometimes when I think about, I get little concerned about what I might have said here on the 'Gon. Its after all hardcoded in the thread. Even more so on the ET2 thread because I can't delete that thread like this one. But I never go back to look. I figure, I am just being upfront with what I hear and experience; and it is what it is. I do however "really" like the freedom I have to say what I feel (within reason obviously) as I am not part of the Audio Business in any way. This includes special relationship privileges with some manufacturers. I don't have to worry about offending any business partners. :^)

We obviously hear things similarly to some degree, both having old Quad and ET LFT-8 loudspeakers, and Music Reference power amps.
I just can't say enough, about how good the Quad 57's sound with the Music Reference RM10 amp, which Roger designed for his own 57's. Every music lover and audiophile should have this combo. RM10 and Quad 57's set up somewhere in their house. This combo keeps me grounded. The B&W matrix 800 series line is all about tuning. What gets fed in comes out. I have tuned their midrange, to sound like the midrange on the 57's. They are in very different but adjacent rooms. Both rooms can be heard by standing in the doorway of Room A.

The Quad 57' design is older than me but the actual speakers panels themselves are only a about 6 ? years old having been rebuilt by Wayne Picquet.

QUAD - Quality Amplifier for Domestic Use.

From an interview with the late Peter Walker at Quad Factory 1978

Peter Walker Interview

my comments on a couple points.

(On adding Woofers to Quads.)

PW: We try to keep out of it. Two or three people have made good attempts at
this, adding woofers. It's not that easy to do. Initially it's quite impressive, but to
try to give this a homogenous sound is difficult. Another thing people do is to use
two of our panels, one above the other. This is quite reasonable because it is
really a strip source, you can extend the strip source without deteriorating
anything. All you do is add 6dB at the bottom end and 3dB everywhere else. It
gives you a louder sound, a more impressive sound. That's all right. Adding
woofers has never been very good.

(So stacked quads give you more db in the bass but they still won't play the bottom octave. I am currently experimenting with sub/s as a fall/winter project. I feel I have found the answer but need to do more listening. What a chore that is . Can u imagine this being your everyday job...listening to music?)

(on Audio Philosophy)

PW: We don't produce a new product every six months or even 12 months, no.
Only two reasons for producing a new model: either you did it wrong the first time
or there's been a fundamental improvement in the science. Fundamental
improvements in the science come very infrequently.

(You know. I love my ARC gear; but I wonder what today's Audio Research corporate & marketing folks would think about his philosophy ? )

ct0517 October 28, 2015 12:06

Hi Bdp24

what an interesting assortment
Thanks. It was all acquired used. Three cheers for the frequent flyer audiophile. :^)
Actually that's not quite right. The OTL's were bought new. I really wanted them to work but they failed my test of time.
The reference ET 2.5 tonearm was also a new custom build from Bruce.

It's going to take me quite a while to read through all the responses and discussion of your systems Ct, but I'm sure gonna do it.
You know, Sometimes when I think about, I get little concerned about what I might have said here on the 'Gon. Its after all hardcoded in the thread. Even more so on the ET2 thread because I can't delete that thread like this one. But I never go back to look. I figure, I am just being upfront with what I hear and experience; and it is what it is. I do however "really" like the freedom I have to say what I feel (within reason obviously) as I am not part of the Audio Business in any way. This includes special relationship privileges with some manufacturers. I don't have to worry about offending any business partners. :^)

We obviously hear things similarly to some degree, both having old Quad and ET LFT-8 loudspeakers, and Music Reference power amps.
I just can't say enough, about how good the Quad 57's sound with the Music Reference RM10 amp, which Roger designed for his own 57's. Every music lover and audiophile should have this combo. RM10 and Quad 57's set up somewhere in their house. This combo keeps me grounded. The B&W matrix 800 series line is all about tuning. What gets fed in comes out. I have tuned their midrange, to sound like the midrange on the 57's. They are in very different but adjacent rooms. Both rooms can be heard by standing in the doorway of Room A.

The Quad 57' design is older than me but the actual speakers panels themselves are only a about 6 ? years old having been rebuilt by Wayne Picquet.

QUAD - Quality Amplifier for Domestic Use.

From an interview with the late Peter Walker at Quad Factory 1978

Peter Walker Interview

my comments on a couple points.

(On adding Woofers to Quads.)

PW: We try to keep out of it. Two or three people have made good attempts at
this, adding woofers. It's not that easy to do. Initially it's quite impressive, but to
try to give this a homogenous sound is difficult. Another thing people do is to use
two of our panels, one above the other. This is quite reasonable because it is
really a strip source, you can extend the strip source without deteriorating
anything. All you do is add 6dB at the bottom end and 3dB everywhere else. It
gives you a louder sound, a more impressive sound. That's all right. Adding
woofers has never been very good.

(So stacked quads give you more db in the bass but they still won't play the bottom octave. I am currently experimenting with sub/s as a fall/winter project. I feel I have found the answer but need to do more listening. What a chore that is . Can u imagine this being your everyday job...listening to music?)

(on Audio Philosophy)

PW: We don't produce a new product every six months or even 12 months, no.
Only two reasons for producing a new model: either you did it wrong the first time
or there's been a fundamental improvement in the science. Fundamental
improvements in the science come very infrequently.

(You know. I love my ARC gear; but I wonder what today's Audio Research corporate & marketing folks would think about his philosophy ? )

ct0517 October 28, 2015 12:06

Hi Bdp24

what an interesting assortment
Thanks. It was all acquired used. Three cheers for the frequent flyer audiophile. :^)
Actually that's not quite right. The OTL's were bought new. I really wanted them to work but they failed my test of time.
The reference ET 2.5 tonearm was also a new custom build from Bruce.

It's going to take me quite a while to read through all the responses and discussion of your systems Ct, but I'm sure gonna do it.
You know, Sometimes when I think about, I get little concerned about what I might have said here on the 'Gon. Its after all hardcoded in the thread. Even more so on the ET2 thread because I can't delete that thread like this one. But I never go back to look. I figure, I am just being upfront with what I hear and experience; and it is what it is. I do however "really" like the freedom I have to say what I feel (within reason obviously) as I am not part of the Audio Business in any way. This includes special relationship privileges with some manufacturers. I don't have to worry about offending any business partners. :^)

We obviously hear things similarly to some degree, both having old Quad and ET LFT-8 loudspeakers, and Music Reference power amps.
I just can't say enough, about how good the Quad 57's sound with the Music Reference RM10 amp, which Roger designed for his own 57's. Every music lover and audiophile should have this combo. RM10 and Quad 57's set up somewhere in their house. This combo keeps me grounded. The B&W matrix 800 series line is all about tuning. What gets fed in comes out. I have tuned their midrange, to sound like the midrange on the 57's. They are in very different but adjacent rooms. Both rooms can be heard by standing in the doorway of Room A.

The Quad 57' design is older than me but the actual speakers panels themselves are only a about 6 ? years old having been rebuilt by Wayne Picquet.

QUAD - Quality Amplifier for Domestic Use.

From an interview with the late Peter Walker at Quad Factory 1978

Peter Walker Interview

my comments on a couple points.

(On adding Woofers to Quads.)

PW: We try to keep out of it. Two or three people have made good attempts at
this, adding woofers. It's not that easy to do. Initially it's quite impressive, but to
try to give this a homogenous sound is difficult. Another thing people do is to use
two of our panels, one above the other. This is quite reasonable because it is
really a strip source, you can extend the strip source without deteriorating
anything. All you do is add 6dB at the bottom end and 3dB everywhere else. It
gives you a louder sound, a more impressive sound. That's all right. Adding
woofers has never been very good.

(So stacked quads give you more db in the bass but they still won't play the bottom octave. I am currently experimenting with sub/s as a fall/winter project. I feel I have found the answer but need to do more listening. What a chore that is . Can u imagine this being your everyday job...listening to music?)

(on Audio Philosophy)

PW: We don't produce a new product every six months or even 12 months, no.
Only two reasons for producing a new model: either you did it wrong the first time
or there's been a fundamental improvement in the science. Fundamental
improvements in the science come very infrequently.

(You know. I love my ARC gear; but I wonder what today's Audio Research corporate & marketing folks would think about his philosophy ? )

ct0517 October 28, 2015 12:06

Hi Bdp24

what an interesting assortment
Thanks. It was all acquired used. Three cheers for the frequent flyer audiophile. :^)
Actually that's not quite right. The OTL's were bought new. I really wanted them to work but they failed my test of time.
The reference ET 2.5 tonearm was also a new custom build from Bruce.

It's going to take me quite a while to read through all the responses and discussion of your systems Ct, but I'm sure gonna do it.
You know, Sometimes when I think about, I get little concerned about what I might have said here on the 'Gon. Its after all hardcoded in the thread. Even more so on the ET2 thread because I can't delete that thread like this one. But I never go back to look. I figure, I am just being upfront with what I hear and experience; and it is what it is. I do however "really" like the freedom I have to say what I feel (within reason obviously) as I am not part of the Audio Business in any way. This includes special relationship privileges with some manufacturers. I don't have to worry about offending any business partners. :^)

We obviously hear things similarly to some degree, both having old Quad and ET LFT-8 loudspeakers, and Music Reference power amps.
I just can't say enough, about how good the Quad 57's sound with the Music Reference RM10 amp, which Roger designed for his own 57's. Every music lover and audiophile should have this combo. RM10 and Quad 57's set up somewhere in their house. This combo keeps me grounded. The B&W matrix 800 series line is all about tuning. What gets fed in comes out. I have tuned their midrange, to sound like the midrange on the 57's. They are in very different but adjacent rooms. Both rooms can be heard by standing in the doorway of Room A.

The Quad 57' design is older than me but the actual speakers panels themselves are only a about 6 ? years old having been rebuilt by Wayne Picquet.

QUAD - Quality Amplifier for Domestic Use.

From an interview with the late Peter Walker at Quad Factory 1978

Peter Walker Interview

my comments on a couple points.

(On adding Woofers to Quads.)

PW: We try to keep out of it. Two or three people have made good attempts at
this, adding woofers. It's not that easy to do. Initially it's quite impressive, but to
try to give this a homogenous sound is difficult. Another thing people do is to use
two of our panels, one above the other. This is quite reasonable because it is
really a strip source, you can extend the strip source without deteriorating
anything. All you do is add 6dB at the bottom end and 3dB everywhere else. It
gives you a louder sound, a more impressive sound. That's all right. Adding
woofers has never been very good.

(So stacked quads give you more db in the bass but they still won't play the bottom octave. I am currently experimenting with sub/s as a fall/winter project. I feel I have found the answer but need to do more listening. What a chore that is . Can u imagine this being your everyday job...listening to music?)

(on Audio Philosophy)

PW: We don't produce a new product every six months or even 12 months, no.
Only two reasons for producing a new model: either you did it wrong the first time
or there's been a fundamental improvement in the science. Fundamental
improvements in the science come very infrequently.

(You know. I love my ARC gear; but I wonder what today's Audio Research corporate & marketing folks would think about his philosophy ? )

ct0517 October 28, 2015 12:06

Hi Bdp24

what an interesting assortment
Thanks. It was all acquired used. Three cheers for the frequent flyer audiophile. :^)
Actually that's not quite right. The OTL's were bought new. I really wanted them to work but they failed my test of time.
The reference ET 2.5 tonearm was also a new custom build from Bruce.

It's going to take me quite a while to read through all the responses and discussion of your systems Ct, but I'm sure gonna do it.
You know, Sometimes when I think about, I get little concerned about what I might have said here on the 'Gon. Its after all hardcoded in the thread. Even more so on the ET2 thread because I can't delete that thread like this one. But I never go back to look. I figure, I am just being upfront with what I hear and experience; and it is what it is. I do however "really" like the freedom I have to say what I feel (within reason obviously) as I am not part of the Audio Business in any way. This includes special relationship privileges with some manufacturers. I don't have to worry about offending any business partners. :^)

We obviously hear things similarly to some degree, both having old Quad and ET LFT-8 loudspeakers, and Music Reference power amps.
I just can't say enough, about how good the Quad 57's sound with the Music Reference RM10 amp, which Roger designed for his own 57's. Every music lover and audiophile should have this combo. RM10 and Quad 57's set up somewhere in their house. This combo keeps me grounded. The B&W matrix 800 series line is all about tuning. What gets fed in comes out. I have tuned their midrange, to sound like the midrange on the 57's. They are in very different but adjacent rooms. Both rooms can be heard by standing in the doorway of Room A.

The Quad 57' design is older than me but the actual speakers panels themselves are only a about 6 ? years old having been rebuilt by Wayne Picquet.

QUAD - Quality Amplifier for Domestic Use.

From an interview with the late Peter Walker at Quad Factory 1978

Peter Walker Interview

my comments on a couple points.

(On adding Woofers to Quads.)

PW: We try to keep out of it. Two or three people have made good attempts at
this, adding woofers. It's not that easy to do. Initially it's quite impressive, but to
try to give this a homogenous sound is difficult. Another thing people do is to use
two of our panels, one above the other. This is quite reasonable because it is
really a strip source, you can extend the strip source without deteriorating
anything. All you do is add 6dB at the bottom end and 3dB everywhere else. It
gives you a louder sound, a more impressive sound. That's all right. Adding
woofers has never been very good.

(So stacked quads give you more db in the bass but they still won't play the bottom octave. I am currently experimenting with sub/s as a fall/winter project. I feel I have found the answer but need to do more listening. What a chore that is . Can u imagine this being your everyday job...listening to music?)

(on Audio Philosophy)

PW: We don't produce a new product every six months or even 12 months, no.
Only two reasons for producing a new model: either you did it wrong the first time
or there's been a fundamental improvement in the science. Fundamental
improvements in the science come very infrequently.

(You know. I love my ARC gear; but I wonder what today's Audio Research corporate & marketing folks would think about his philosophy ? )

ct0517 October 28, 2015 12:06

It's going to take me quite a while to read through all the responses and discussion of your systems Ct, but I'm sure gonna do it. What an interesting assortment! We obviously hear things similarly to some degree, both having old Quad and ET LFT-8 loudspeakers, and Music Reference power amps.

bdp24 October 27, 2015 08:39

Rega Apollo & Saturn Transport Fix. (initializing, reading and playing CD's)

This post is for owners of Rega Digital players (Apollo and Saturn). If your transport mechanism works, but your player is having trouble initializing and reading discs maybe this fix will work for you.

My Saturn (XX years?) which I still use in one of my systems went down on me over the summer. It intermittently stopped reading discs. When it did read them it would start having problems during play. You could hear the mechanism working hard as it cycled eventually stopping and showing an Error message on the display. It seemed I had the option of sending it to Rega Support Plurism in Montreal, or maybe try something DIY - do it yourself. Here is what I did.

First I took a Q-tip - dipped in Isopropyl 99.9% - waiting till it was not dripping and just moist. Then using a magnifying glass gave the laser lens one light swipe.
This resulted in lightning fast initial cd reads. But it still had problems playing the CD. You could hear the mechanism working till finally stopping and registering that Error display.

I then took some Lithium Grease Lube. Sprayed some on a piece of plastic. took a flat tooth pick and dabbed it into it. I then manually, carefully pushed the transport mechanism to see and access the full railing that it rides on. With the toothpick I applied dots of grease in an even path along the railing of the transport. I then put in a cd. there were 15 tracks on this one. Let it load. Then I cycled with the remote between track one and track 15. 15 and one....repeatedly. This forced the transport mechanism back and forth allowing it to lubricate itself with the applied grease.

At least 200 plays later it is still working better than it every did in the XX years I have owned it. (fingers crossed) I would post pics of how I greased the railing but have not had access to the virtual system here for a long time. What's up AudioGon ?

fwiw
People that have owned these players know how good they are from both from a DAC and Player/Transport perspective. Extremely musical, analog, vinyl like.
I had taken my Saturn to dealer showrooms over the years and plugged it into their systems with my CD's. The Saturn held its own quite well, as both an all around good CD player; but I discovered that its transport is the real gem comparing against others. For me personally, it took an expensive DAC - the DAC8 in my case to replace the Saturn's DAC. But its transport I still rank way up there.

Cheers

ct0517 October 26, 2015 12:59

Rega Apollo & Saturn Transport Fix. (initializing, reading and playing CD's)

This post is for owners of Rega Digital players (Apollo and Saturn). If your transport mechanism works, but your player is having trouble initializing and reading discs maybe this fix will work for you.

My Saturn (XX years?) which I still use in one of my systems went down on me over the summer. It intermittently stopped reading discs. When it did read them it would start having problems during play. You could hear the mechanism working hard as it cycled eventually stopping and showing an Error message on the display. It seemed I had the option of sending it to Rega Support Plurism in Montreal, or maybe try something DIY - do it yourself. Here is what I did.

First I took a Q-tip - dipped in Isopropyl 99.9% - waiting till it was not dripping and just moist. Then using a magnifying glass gave the laser lens one light swipe.
This resulted in lightning fast initial cd reads. But it still had problems playing the CD. You could hear the mechanism working till finally stopping and registering that Error display.

I then took some Lithium Grease Lube. Sprayed some on a piece of plastic. took a flat tooth pick and dabbed it into it. I then manually, carefully pushed the transport mechanism to see and access the full railing that it rides on. With the toothpick I applied dots of grease in an even path along the railing of the transport. I then put in a cd. there were 15 tracks on this one. Let it load. Then I cycled with the remote between track one and track 15. 15 and one....repeatedly. This forced the transport mechanism back and forth allowing it to lubricate itself with the applied grease.

At least 200 plays later it is still working better than it every did in the XX years I have owned it. (fingers crossed) I would post pics of how I greased the railing but have not had access to the virtual system here for a long time. What's up AudioGon ?

fwiw
People that have owned these players know how good they are from both from a DAC and Player/Transport perspective. Extremely musical, analog, vinyl like.
I had taken my Saturn to dealer showrooms over the years and plugged it into their systems with my CD's. The Saturn held its own quite well, as both an all around good CD player; but I discovered that its transport is the real gem comparing against others. For me personally, it took an expensive DAC - the DAC8 in my case to replace the Saturn's DAC. But its transport I still rank way up there.

Cheers

ct0517 October 26, 2015 12:59

Rega Apollo & Saturn Transport Fix. (initializing, reading and playing CD's)

This post is for owners of Rega Digital players (Apollo and Saturn). If your transport mechanism works, but your player is having trouble initializing and reading discs maybe this fix will work for you.

My Saturn (XX years?) which I still use in one of my systems went down on me over the summer. It intermittently stopped reading discs. When it did read them it would start having problems during play. You could hear the mechanism working hard as it cycled eventually stopping and showing an Error message on the display. It seemed I had the option of sending it to Rega Support Plurism in Montreal, or maybe try something DIY - do it yourself. Here is what I did.

First I took a Q-tip - dipped in Isopropyl 99.9% - waiting till it was not dripping and just moist. Then using a magnifying glass gave the laser lens one light swipe.
This resulted in lightning fast initial cd reads. But it still had problems playing the CD. You could hear the mechanism working till finally stopping and registering that Error display.

I then took some Lithium Grease Lube. Sprayed some on a piece of plastic. took a flat tooth pick and dabbed it into it. I then manually, carefully pushed the transport mechanism to see and access the full railing that it rides on. With the toothpick I applied dots of grease in an even path along the railing of the transport. I then put in a cd. there were 15 tracks on this one. Let it load. Then I cycled with the remote between track one and track 15. 15 and one....repeatedly. This forced the transport mechanism back and forth allowing it to lubricate itself with the applied grease.

At least 200 plays later it is still working better than it every did in the XX years I have owned it. (fingers crossed) I would post pics of how I greased the railing but have not had access to the virtual system here for a long time. What's up AudioGon ?

fwiw
People that have owned these players know how good they are from both from a DAC and Player/Transport perspective. Extremely musical, analog, vinyl like.
I had taken my Saturn to dealer showrooms over the years and plugged it into their systems with my CD's. The Saturn held its own quite well, as both an all around good CD player; but I discovered that its transport is the real gem comparing against others. For me personally, it took an expensive DAC - the DAC8 in my case to replace the Saturn's DAC. But its transport I still rank way up there.

Cheers

ct0517 October 26, 2015 12:59

Rega Apollo & Saturn Transport Fix. (initializing, reading and playing CD's)

This post is for owners of Rega Digital players (Apollo and Saturn). If your transport mechanism works, but your player is having trouble initializing and reading discs maybe this fix will work for you.

My Saturn (XX years?) which I still use in one of my systems went down on me over the summer. It intermittently stopped reading discs. When it did read them it would start having problems during play. You could hear the mechanism working hard as it cycled eventually stopping and showing an Error message on the display. It seemed I had the option of sending it to Rega Support Plurism in Montreal, or maybe try something DIY - do it yourself. Here is what I did.

First I took a Q-tip - dipped in Isopropyl 99.9% - waiting till it was not dripping and just moist. Then using a magnifying glass gave the laser lens one light swipe.
This resulted in lightning fast initial cd reads. But it still had problems playing the CD. You could hear the mechanism working till finally stopping and registering that Error display.

I then took some Lithium Grease Lube. Sprayed some on a piece of plastic. took a flat tooth pick and dabbed it into it. I then manually, carefully pushed the transport mechanism to see and access the full railing that it rides on. With the toothpick I applied dots of grease in an even path along the railing of the transport. I then put in a cd. there were 15 tracks on this one. Let it load. Then I cycled with the remote between track one and track 15. 15 and one....repeatedly. This forced the transport mechanism back and forth allowing it to lubricate itself with the applied grease.

At least 200 plays later it is still working better than it every did in the XX years I have owned it. (fingers crossed) I would post pics of how I greased the railing but have not had access to the virtual system here for a long time. What's up AudioGon ?

fwiw
People that have owned these players know how good they are from both from a DAC and Player/Transport perspective. Extremely musical, analog, vinyl like.
I had taken my Saturn to dealer showrooms over the years and plugged it into their systems with my CD's. The Saturn held its own quite well, as both an all around good CD player; but I discovered that its transport is the real gem comparing against others. For me personally, it took an expensive DAC - the DAC8 in my case to replace the Saturn's DAC. But its transport I still rank way up there.

Cheers

ct0517 October 26, 2015 12:59

Rega Apollo & Saturn Transport Fix. (initializing, reading and playing CD's)

This post is for owners of Rega Digital players (Apollo and Saturn). If your transport mechanism works, but your player is having trouble initializing and reading discs maybe this fix will work for you.

My Saturn (XX years?) which I still use in one of my systems went down on me over the summer. It intermittently stopped reading discs. When it did read them it would start having problems during play. You could hear the mechanism working hard as it cycled eventually stopping and showing an Error message on the display. It seemed I had the option of sending it to Rega Support Plurism in Montreal, or maybe try something DIY - do it yourself. Here is what I did.

First I took a Q-tip - dipped in Isopropyl 99.9% - waiting till it was not dripping and just moist. Then using a magnifying glass gave the laser lens one light swipe.
This resulted in lightning fast initial cd reads. But it still had problems playing the CD. You could hear the mechanism working till finally stopping and registering that Error display.

I then took some Lithium Grease Lube. Sprayed some on a piece of plastic. took a flat tooth pick and dabbed it into it. I then manually, carefully pushed the transport mechanism to see and access the full railing that it rides on. With the toothpick I applied dots of grease in an even path along the railing of the transport. I then put in a cd. there were 15 tracks on this one. Let it load. Then I cycled with the remote between track one and track 15. 15 and one....repeatedly. This forced the transport mechanism back and forth allowing it to lubricate itself with the applied grease.

At least 200 plays later it is still working better than it every did in the XX years I have owned it. (fingers crossed) I would post pics of how I greased the railing but have not had access to the virtual system here for a long time. What's up AudioGon ?

fwiw
People that have owned these players know how good they are from both from a DAC and Player/Transport perspective. Extremely musical, analog, vinyl like.
I had taken my Saturn to dealer showrooms over the years and plugged it into their systems with my CD's. The Saturn held its own quite well, as both an all around good CD player; but I discovered that its transport is the real gem comparing against others. For me personally, it took an expensive DAC - the DAC8 in my case to replace the Saturn's DAC. But its transport I still rank way up there.

Cheers

ct0517 October 26, 2015 12:59

Rega Apollo & Saturn Transport Fix. (initializing, reading and playing CD's)

This post is for owners of Rega Digital players (Apollo and Saturn). If your transport mechanism works, but your player is having trouble initializing and reading discs maybe this fix will work for you.

My Saturn (XX years?) which I still use in one of my systems went down on me over the summer. It intermittently stopped reading discs. When it did read them it would start having problems during play. You could hear the mechanism working hard as it cycled eventually stopping and showing an Error message on the display. It seemed I had the option of sending it to Rega Support Plurism in Montreal, or maybe try something DIY - do it yourself. Here is what I did.

First I took a Q-tip - dipped in Isopropyl 99.9% - waiting till it was not dripping and just moist. Then using a magnifying glass gave the laser lens one light swipe.
This resulted in lightning fast initial cd reads. But it still had problems playing the CD. You could hear the mechanism working till finally stopping and registering that Error display.

I then took some Lithium Grease Lube. Sprayed some on a piece of plastic. took a flat tooth pick and dabbed it into it. I then manually, carefully pushed the transport mechanism to see and access the full railing that it rides on. With the toothpick I applied dots of grease in an even path along the railing of the transport. I then put in a cd. there were 15 tracks on this one. Let it load. Then I cycled with the remote between track one and track 15. 15 and one....repeatedly. This forced the transport mechanism back and forth allowing it to lubricate itself with the applied grease.

At least 200 plays later it is still working better than it every did in the XX years I have owned it. (fingers crossed) I would post pics of how I greased the railing but have not had access to the virtual system here for a long time. What's up AudioGon ?

fwiw
People that have owned these players know how good they are from both from a DAC and Player/Transport perspective. Extremely musical, analog, vinyl like.
I had taken my Saturn to dealer showrooms over the years and plugged it into their systems with my CD's. The Saturn held its own quite well, as both an all around good CD player; but I discovered that its transport is the real gem comparing against others. For me personally, it took an expensive DAC - the DAC8 in my case to replace the Saturn's DAC. But its transport I still rank way up there.

Cheers

ct0517 October 26, 2015 12:59

Rega Apollo & Saturn Transport Fix. (initializing, reading and playing CD's)

This post is for owners of Rega Digital players (Apollo and Saturn). If your transport mechanism works, but your player is having trouble initializing and reading discs maybe this fix will work for you.

My Saturn (XX years?) which I still use in one of my systems went down on me over the summer. It intermittently stopped reading discs. When it did read them it would start having problems during play. You could hear the mechanism working hard as it cycled eventually stopping and showing an Error message on the display. It seemed I had the option of sending it to Rega Support Plurism in Montreal, or maybe try something DIY - do it yourself. Here is what I did.

First I took a Q-tip - dipped in Isopropyl 99.9% - waiting till it was not dripping and just moist. Then using a magnifying glass gave the laser lens one light swipe.
This resulted in lightning fast initial cd reads. But it still had problems playing the CD. You could hear the mechanism working till finally stopping and registering that Error display.

I then took some Lithium Grease Lube. Sprayed some on a piece of plastic. took a flat tooth pick and dabbed it into it. I then manually, carefully pushed the transport mechanism to see and access the full railing that it rides on. With the toothpick I applied dots of grease in an even path along the railing of the transport. I then put in a cd. there were 15 tracks on this one. Let it load. Then I cycled with the remote between track one and track 15. 15 and one....repeatedly. This forced the transport mechanism back and forth allowing it to lubricate itself with the applied grease.

At least 200 plays later it is still working better than it every did in the XX years I have owned it. (fingers crossed) I would post pics of how I greased the railing but have not had access to the virtual system here for a long time. What's up AudioGon ?

fwiw
People that have owned these players know how good they are from both from a DAC and Player/Transport perspective. Extremely musical, analog, vinyl like.
I had taken my Saturn to dealer showrooms over the years and plugged it into their systems with my CD's. The Saturn held its own quite well, as both an all around good CD player; but I discovered that its transport is the real gem comparing against others. For me personally, it took an expensive DAC - the DAC8 in my case to replace the Saturn's DAC. But its transport I still rank way up there.

Cheers

ct0517 October 26, 2015 12:59

Rega Apollo & Saturn Transport Fix. (initializing, reading and playing CD's)

This post is for owners of Rega Digital players (Apollo and Saturn). If your transport mechanism works, but your player is having trouble initializing and reading discs maybe this fix will work for you.

My Saturn (XX years?) which I still use in one of my systems went down on me over the summer. It intermittently stopped reading discs. When it did read them it would start having problems during play. You could hear the mechanism working hard as it cycled eventually stopping and showing an Error message on the display. It seemed I had the option of sending it to Rega Support Plurism in Montreal, or maybe try something DIY - do it yourself. Here is what I did.

First I took a Q-tip - dipped in Isopropyl 99.9% - waiting till it was not dripping and just moist. Then using a magnifying glass gave the laser lens one light swipe.
This resulted in lightning fast initial cd reads. But it still had problems playing the CD. You could hear the mechanism working till finally stopping and registering that Error display.

I then took some Lithium Grease Lube. Sprayed some on a piece of plastic. took a flat tooth pick and dabbed it into it. I then manually, carefully pushed the transport mechanism to see and access the full railing that it rides on. With the toothpick I applied dots of grease in an even path along the railing of the transport. I then put in a cd. there were 15 tracks on this one. Let it load. Then I cycled with the remote between track one and track 15. 15 and one....repeatedly. This forced the transport mechanism back and forth allowing it to lubricate itself with the applied grease.

At least 200 plays later it is still working better than it every did in the XX years I have owned it. (fingers crossed) I would post pics of how I greased the railing but have not had access to the virtual system here for a long time. What's up AudioGon ?

fwiw
People that have owned these players know how good they are from both from a DAC and Player/Transport perspective. Extremely musical, analog, vinyl like.
I had taken my Saturn to dealer showrooms over the years and plugged it into their systems with my CD's. The Saturn held its own quite well, as both an all around good CD player; but I discovered that its transport is the real gem comparing against others. For me personally, it took an expensive DAC - the DAC8 in my case to replace the Saturn's DAC. But its transport I still rank way up there.

Cheers

ct0517 October 26, 2015 12:59

Rega Apollo & Saturn Transport Fix. (initializing, reading and playing CD's)

This post is for owners of Rega Digital players (Apollo and Saturn). If your transport mechanism works, but your player is having trouble initializing and reading discs maybe this fix will work for you.

My Saturn (XX years?) which I still use in one of my systems went down on me over the summer. It intermittently stopped reading discs. When it did read them it would start having problems during play. You could hear the mechanism working hard as it cycled eventually stopping and showing an Error message on the display. It seemed I had the option of sending it to Rega Support Plurism in Montreal, or maybe try something DIY - do it yourself. Here is what I did.

First I took a Q-tip - dipped in Isopropyl 99.9% - waiting till it was not dripping and just moist. Then using a magnifying glass gave the laser lens one light swipe.
This resulted in lightning fast initial cd reads. But it still had problems playing the CD. You could hear the mechanism working till finally stopping and registering that Error display.

I then took some Lithium Grease Lube. Sprayed some on a piece of plastic. took a flat tooth pick and dabbed it into it. I then manually, carefully pushed the transport mechanism to see and access the full railing that it rides on. With the toothpick I applied dots of grease in an even path along the railing of the transport. I then put in a cd. there were 15 tracks on this one. Let it load. Then I cycled with the remote between track one and track 15. 15 and one....repeatedly. This forced the transport mechanism back and forth allowing it to lubricate itself with the applied grease.

At least 200 plays later it is still working better than it every did in the XX years I have owned it. (fingers crossed) I would post pics of how I greased the railing but have not had access to the virtual system here for a long time. What's up AudioGon ?

fwiw
People that have owned these players know how good they are from both from a DAC and Player/Transport perspective. Extremely musical, analog, vinyl like.
I had taken my Saturn to dealer showrooms over the years and plugged it into their systems with my CD's. The Saturn held its own quite well, as both an all around good CD player; but I discovered that its transport is the real gem comparing against others. For me personally, it took an expensive DAC - the DAC8 in my case to replace the Saturn's DAC. But its transport I still rank way up there.

Cheers

ct0517 October 26, 2015 12:59

Rega Apollo & Saturn Transport Fix. (initializing, reading and playing CD's)

This post is for owners of Rega Digital players (Apollo and Saturn). If your transport mechanism works, but your player is having trouble initializing and reading discs maybe this fix will work for you.

My Saturn (XX years?) which I still use in one of my systems went down on me over the summer. It intermittently stopped reading discs. When it did read them it would start having problems during play. You could hear the mechanism working hard as it cycled eventually stopping and showing an Error message on the display. It seemed I had the option of sending it to Rega Support Plurism in Montreal, or maybe try something DIY - do it yourself. Here is what I did.

First I took a Q-tip - dipped in Isopropyl 99.9% - waiting till it was not dripping and just moist. Then using a magnifying glass gave the laser lens one light swipe.
This resulted in lightning fast initial cd reads. But it still had problems playing the CD. You could hear the mechanism working till finally stopping and registering that Error display.

I then took some Lithium Grease Lube. Sprayed some on a piece of plastic. took a flat tooth pick and dabbed it into it. I then manually, carefully pushed the transport mechanism to see and access the full railing that it rides on. With the toothpick I applied dots of grease in an even path along the railing of the transport. I then put in a cd. there were 15 tracks on this one. Let it load. Then I cycled with the remote between track one and track 15. 15 and one....repeatedly. This forced the transport mechanism back and forth allowing it to lubricate itself with the applied grease.

At least 200 plays later it is still working better than it every did in the XX years I have owned it. (fingers crossed) I would post pics of how I greased the railing but have not had access to the virtual system here for a long time. What's up AudioGon ?

fwiw
People that have owned these players know how good they are from both from a DAC and Player/Transport perspective. Extremely musical, analog, vinyl like.
I had taken my Saturn to dealer showrooms over the years and plugged it into their systems with my CD's. The Saturn held its own quite well, as both an all around good CD player; but I discovered that its transport is the real gem comparing against others. For me personally, it took an expensive DAC - the DAC8 in my case to replace the Saturn's DAC. But its transport I still rank way up there.

Cheers

ct0517 October 26, 2015 12:59

Rega Apollo & Saturn Transport Fix. (initializing, reading and playing CD's)

This post is for owners of Rega Digital players (Apollo and Saturn). If your transport mechanism works, but your player is having trouble initializing and reading discs maybe this fix will work for you.

My Saturn (XX years?) which I still use in one of my systems went down on me over the summer. It intermittently stopped reading discs. When it did read them it would start having problems during play. You could hear the mechanism working hard as it cycled eventually stopping and showing an Error message on the display. It seemed I had the option of sending it to Rega Support Plurism in Montreal, or maybe try something DIY - do it yourself. Here is what I did.

First I took a Q-tip - dipped in Isopropyl 99.9% - waiting till it was not dripping and just moist. Then using a magnifying glass gave the laser lens one light swipe.
This resulted in lightning fast initial cd reads. But it still had problems playing the CD. You could hear the mechanism working till finally stopping and registering that Error display.

I then took some Lithium Grease Lube. Sprayed some on a piece of plastic. took a flat tooth pick and dabbed it into it. I then manually, carefully pushed the transport mechanism to see and access the full railing that it rides on. With the toothpick I applied dots of grease in an even path along the railing of the transport. I then put in a cd. there were 15 tracks on this one. Let it load. Then I cycled with the remote between track one and track 15. 15 and one....repeatedly. This forced the transport mechanism back and forth allowing it to lubricate itself with the applied grease.

At least 200 plays later it is still working better than it every did in the XX years I have owned it. (fingers crossed) I would post pics of how I greased the railing but have not had access to the virtual system here for a long time. What's up AudioGon ?

fwiw
People that have owned these players know how good they are from both from a DAC and Player/Transport perspective. Extremely musical, analog, vinyl like.
I had taken my Saturn to dealer showrooms over the years and plugged it into their systems with my CD's. The Saturn held its own quite well, as both an all around good CD player; but I discovered that its transport is the real gem comparing against others. For me personally, it took an expensive DAC - the DAC8 in my case to replace the Saturn's DAC. But its transport I still rank way up there.

Cheers

ct0517 October 26, 2015 12:59

Rega Apollo & Saturn Transport Fix. (initializing, reading and playing CD's)

This post is for owners of Rega Digital players (Apollo and Saturn). If your transport mechanism works, but your player is having trouble initializing and reading discs maybe this fix will work for you.

My Saturn (XX years?) which I still use in one of my systems went down on me over the summer. It intermittently stopped reading discs. When it did read them it would start having problems during play. You could hear the mechanism working hard as it cycled eventually stopping and showing an Error message on the display. It seemed I had the option of sending it to Rega Support Plurism in Montreal, or maybe try something DIY - do it yourself. Here is what I did.

First I took a Q-tip - dipped in Isopropyl 99.9% - waiting till it was not dripping and just moist. Then using a magnifying glass gave the laser lens one light swipe.
This resulted in lightning fast initial cd reads. But it still had problems playing the CD. You could hear the mechanism working till finally stopping and registering that Error display.

I then took some Lithium Grease Lube. Sprayed some on a piece of plastic. took a flat tooth pick and dabbed it into it. I then manually, carefully pushed the transport mechanism to see and access the full railing that it rides on. With the toothpick I applied dots of grease in an even path along the railing of the transport. I then put in a cd. there were 15 tracks on this one. Let it load. Then I cycled with the remote between track one and track 15. 15 and one....repeatedly. This forced the transport mechanism back and forth allowing it to lubricate itself with the applied grease.

At least 200 plays later it is still working better than it every did in the XX years I have owned it. (fingers crossed) I would post pics of how I greased the railing but have not had access to the virtual system here for a long time. What's up AudioGon ?

fwiw
People that have owned these players know how good they are from both from a DAC and Player/Transport perspective. Extremely musical, analog, vinyl like.
I had taken my Saturn to dealer showrooms over the years and plugged it into their systems with my CD's. The Saturn held its own quite well, as both an all around good CD player; but I discovered that its transport is the real gem comparing against others. For me personally, it took an expensive DAC - the DAC8 in my case to replace the Saturn's DAC. But its transport I still rank way up there.

Cheers

ct0517 October 26, 2015 12:59

Rega Apollo & Saturn Transport Fix. (initializing, reading and playing CD's)

This post is for owners of Rega Digital players (Apollo and Saturn). If your transport mechanism works, but your player is having trouble initializing and reading discs maybe this fix will work for you.

My Saturn (XX years?) which I still use in one of my systems went down on me over the summer. It intermittently stopped reading discs. When it did read them it would start having problems during play. You could hear the mechanism working hard as it cycled eventually stopping and showing an Error message on the display. It seemed I had the option of sending it to Rega Support Plurism in Montreal, or maybe try something DIY - do it yourself. Here is what I did.

First I took a Q-tip - dipped in Isopropyl 99.9% - waiting till it was not dripping and just moist. Then using a magnifying glass gave the laser lens one light swipe.
This resulted in lightning fast initial cd reads. But it still had problems playing the CD. You could hear the mechanism working till finally stopping and registering that Error display.

I then took some Lithium Grease Lube. Sprayed some on a piece of plastic. took a flat tooth pick and dabbed it into it. I then manually, carefully pushed the transport mechanism to see and access the full railing that it rides on. With the toothpick I applied dots of grease in an even path along the railing of the transport. I then put in a cd. there were 15 tracks on this one. Let it load. Then I cycled with the remote between track one and track 15. 15 and one....repeatedly. This forced the transport mechanism back and forth allowing it to lubricate itself with the applied grease.

At least 200 plays later it is still working better than it every did in the XX years I have owned it. (fingers crossed) I would post pics of how I greased the railing but have not had access to the virtual system here for a long time. What's up AudioGon ?

fwiw
People that have owned these players know how good they are from both from a DAC and Player/Transport perspective. Extremely musical, analog, vinyl like.
I had taken my Saturn to dealer showrooms over the years and plugged it into their systems with my CD's. The Saturn held its own quite well, as both an all around good CD player; but I discovered that its transport is the real gem comparing against others. For me personally, it took an expensive DAC - the DAC8 in my case to replace the Saturn's DAC. But its transport I still rank way up there.

Cheers

ct0517 October 26, 2015 12:59

Rega Apollo & Saturn Transport Fix. (initializing, reading and playing CD's)

This post is for owners of Rega Digital players (Apollo and Saturn). If your transport mechanism works, but your player is having trouble initializing and reading discs maybe this fix will work for you.

My Saturn (XX years?) which I still use in one of my systems went down on me over the summer. It intermittently stopped reading discs. When it did read them it would start having problems during play. You could hear the mechanism working hard as it cycled eventually stopping and showing an Error message on the display. It seemed I had the option of sending it to Rega Support Plurism in Montreal, or maybe try something DIY - do it yourself. Here is what I did.

First I took a Q-tip - dipped in Isopropyl 99.9% - waiting till it was not dripping and just moist. Then using a magnifying glass gave the laser lens one light swipe.
This resulted in lightning fast initial cd reads. But it still had problems playing the CD. You could hear the mechanism working till finally stopping and registering that Error display.

I then took some Lithium Grease Lube. Sprayed some on a piece of plastic. took a flat tooth pick and dabbed it into it. I then manually, carefully pushed the transport mechanism to see and access the full railing that it rides on. With the toothpick I applied dots of grease in an even path along the railing of the transport. I then put in a cd. there were 15 tracks on this one. Let it load. Then I cycled with the remote between track one and track 15. 15 and one....repeatedly. This forced the transport mechanism back and forth allowing it to lubricate itself with the applied grease.

At least 200 plays later it is still working better than it every did in the XX years I have owned it. (fingers crossed) I would post pics of how I greased the railing but have not had access to the virtual system here for a long time. What's up AudioGon ?

fwiw
People that have owned these players know how good they are from both from a DAC and Player/Transport perspective. Extremely musical, analog, vinyl like.
I had taken my Saturn to dealer showrooms over the years and plugged it into their systems with my CD's. The Saturn held its own quite well, as both an all around good CD player; but I discovered that its transport is the real gem comparing against others. For me personally, it took an expensive DAC - the DAC8 in my case to replace the Saturn's DAC. But its transport I still rank way up there.

Cheers

ct0517 October 26, 2015 12:59

Rega Apollo & Saturn Transport Fix. (initializing, reading and playing CD's)

This post is for owners of Rega Digital players (Apollo and Saturn). If your transport mechanism works, but your player is having trouble initializing and reading discs maybe this fix will work for you.

My Saturn (XX years?) which I still use in one of my systems went down on me over the summer. It intermittently stopped reading discs. When it did read them it would start having problems during play. You could hear the mechanism working hard as it cycled eventually stopping and showing an Error message on the display. It seemed I had the option of sending it to Rega Support Plurism in Montreal, or maybe try something DIY - do it yourself. Here is what I did.

First I took a Q-tip - dipped in Isopropyl 99.9% - waiting till it was not dripping and just moist. Then using a magnifying glass gave the laser lens one light swipe.
This resulted in lightning fast initial cd reads. But it still had problems playing the CD. You could hear the mechanism working till finally stopping and registering that Error display.

I then took some Lithium Grease Lube. Sprayed some on a piece of plastic. took a flat tooth pick and dabbed it into it. I then manually, carefully pushed the transport mechanism to see and access the full railing that it rides on. With the toothpick I applied dots of grease in an even path along the railing of the transport. I then put in a cd. there were 15 tracks on this one. Let it load. Then I cycled with the remote between track one and track 15. 15 and one....repeatedly. This forced the transport mechanism back and forth allowing it to lubricate itself with the applied grease.

At least 200 plays later it is still working better than it every did in the XX years I have owned it. (fingers crossed) I would post pics of how I greased the railing but have not had access to the virtual system here for a long time. What's up AudioGon ?

fwiw
People that have owned these players know how good they are from both from a DAC and Player/Transport perspective. Extremely musical, analog, vinyl like.
I had taken my Saturn to dealer showrooms over the years and plugged it into their systems with my CD's. The Saturn held its own quite well, as both an all around good CD player; but I discovered that its transport is the real gem comparing against others. For me personally, it took an expensive DAC - the DAC8 in my case to replace the Saturn's DAC. But its transport I still rank way up there.

Cheers

ct0517 October 26, 2015 12:59