Description

The speakers are set up in roughly a 3m equilateral triangle with the listening position. The toe-in is such that I can just see the inside flank of each speaker.
This picture is as of December 2021.
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Room Details

Dimensions: 14’ × 23’  Medium
Ceiling: 8’


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    • Speakers: Odeon Audio No. 33
    • Amplifier: First Watt SIT-3
    • Phono Preamplifier: Thomas Mayer D3a Phono Preamplifier
    • Line Preamplifier: Thomas Mayer 10Y Line Preamplifier
    • Streaming DAC: Brinkmann Nyquist MKII
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    Brinkmann "Nyquist Mk II" Streaming DAC

    Cables are:
    Network Acoustics "ENO Streaming Cable Ag" (1 cable)
    Triode Wire Labs "Freedom" Ethernet cable (1 cable)
    Premium Belden 1303E CATSNAKE Cat6a Ethernet Network Cable (all the rest of my cables)

    • Turntable: Reed Muse 3C
    White finish.
    I've experimented with both drive systems and I'm using the friction drive rather than the belt drive. 
    I've replaced the stock power supply with a linear power supply.
    Tone Arm/Phono Cable: Cardas 34 AWG Clear
    • Tonearm: Airtangent 1b
    I've tried and owned a number of top pivoting tonearms, including those from Reed and Schröder, but I prefer the AT by a wide margin.
    • Cartridge: Etsuro Urushi Cobalt Blue
    • Distributed subwoofer system: AudioKinesis Swarm Subwoofer System
    4 walnut subs; 2 amplifiers.
    • Supertweeters: Townshend Audio Maximum Supertweeters
    2 pairs.
    One pair facing downward to the corners of the front wall and the other pair facing downward to the corners of the rear wall.
    • Cables: Mogami
    Volex 17504 power cords.

    • Power Treatment: Akiko Audio Corelli
    • Room Treatment: Stein Music E-Pads
    -on the many floor-to-ceiling windows that form the left wall of the room.
    • Record treatment: Stein Music DE3 LP Conditioner
    • Record and stylus treatment: Keith Monks, The Archivist
    Stylus cleaning: Mr. Clean Magic Eraser.

Comments 198

I love my Decca Super Gold too. I had it re-tipped by John Wright in England with a Paratrace stylus which takes it to a new level.

noromance

Owner
System edited: Added a London Decca Super Gold cartridge. This cartridge replaces the ZYX R100 Yatra which replaced a Kondo IO-M. Everything you might read about the dynamics and immediacy of this cartridge are true. If there is a drawback to this cartridge, I haven't come across it yet; it seems to mate perfectly with my tonearm.

exlibris

Owner
System edited: Added Emission Labs 45 (solid plates) for my amplifier. I had been going back and forth between a pair of NOS globe-shape RCAs and a pair of ST-shape National Unions. The globes has more finesse and were better in the midrange but the STs sounded more powerful and were better at the frequency extremes. So far, after 4 hours of listening, it seems that the EMLs are better in every respect. They sound very powerful, modern, and very 'matter-of-fact.' They really take control and get a grip on the proceedings. If you are looking for a tube to act as a tone control to warm up, sweeten, or tame your system I probably wouldn't go with the EML. The EML makes the vintage tubes sound a little lazy in terms of 'image pop' and projection out into the room. The vintage tubes seem happy to sort of hang back and blend images into one another. I'd like my system to have a little more heart, soul, and humanity and the EMLs didn't give me that. I find that there is more texture and tonal information now and the soundscape has expanded out into the room more. I'll post again if the EMLs start to change as they break in.

exlibris

Owner
The Thoress 845 are thin so postitioning them wouldn't be a probelm.
I use bi-wire speaker cables.
I sit near the rear wall of the room about 12' from the speaker plane.

exlibris

Not a sonic challenge but visual challenge and space Exlibris.

Physically the Thoresss 845 (very retro and mid-century looking) look much bigger than the current Thomas Mayer 45 SE. However, after second view of the Thoresss amps they should fit comfortably on the maple platform.

Audio Note HE loudspeaker...jumpers or bi-wire?

BTW...what is your listening position from the the Audio Note loudspeakers?

lapierre

Owner
Lapierre,
Thank you very much for the compliment.
I'm curious, why do you think the Thoress 845 be a challenge fitting in with my other components?

exlibris

Nicely done Exlibris. Nicely done indeed.

Just a great collection of components that is well thought out including the room acoustics.

Thoresss 845 mono blocks will be a challenge fitting in with your other components.

lapierre

Owner
System edited: added a ZYX cartridge and started a thread on it called "ZYX R100 Yatra"

exlibris

Exlibris,
With either amplifier I don't believe that you'll go wrong. I'd bet his 211 amplifiers with his 4 chassis preamp combination is fantastic.
Charles,

charles1dad

Owner
Isochronism,
Thank you for the compliments.
I'm thinking of trying Thomas Mayer's four chassis preamp and 211 monoblocks (or the Thoresss 845 monoblocks) so things may be becoming a little more encumbered!
(I will, however, do my best to keep it looking neat and clean)

exlibris

Owner
Bob,
The unshielded PC cost me $7.24 CDN. For you in the US it can be had for 5 bucks. It was recommended to me by two dealers whose ears I trust so I took a chance.
But I thought the same thing when I went to the manufacturer's site: "why do they want me to buy the cheapest cord here?" "why do they want me to buy an unshielded one when there are shielded ones available for a couple of extra bucks."
When I put them in it wasn't as is the heavens opened or my jaw dropped but everything just sounded natural and right. My other cords sounded as is they were editorializing or spotlighting in some way or another.
Incidentally, my inteconnects and speaker cables are also unshielded. Again, I didn't go looking for unshielded wires ; shielding makes a lot of sense to me.

exlibris

Thank you for providing Charles Altmann's site.
You have a very beautiful and unencumbered system and room!

isochronism

Dave;
Why did you purchase a unshielded PC? Not sure of the differences between shielded, and non shielded cords, except I thought with all the gear and cords in the back of our racks, that a shielded cord might perform better and block out some noise. I will try to sample one of your new cords and report back. Like their pricing, and love your room...great photos and beautifully done. Kudos!
Best,
Bob

mribob

Owner
Thanks. I had the speakers out into the room then. They have since been pushed back into the corners where they were designed to be placed.

exlibris

Nice to see that picture!

jetrexpro

Owner
System edited: Power cords and AC conditioner changed.

exlibris

Owner
Hi Dev,
Everything I learned about room acoustics and the sound of wood and lacquer, I learned from Charles Altmann.
I don't know much about framing and such, I think the most important thing is how the surface of the wood is treated (the lacquer). And, yes, I would do the ceiling as well. I would avoid parallel surfaces by slightly angling the walls and ceiling. I'm not big on any kind of absorption because I like a live sound. Soft woods that are good include: spruce, pine, fir, and cedar. The resonance and reflection off these woods is more pleasant than that of hard woods and much better than things like drywall, glass, and concrete. Please have a look at Charles' writings for more information.

exlibris

Hi Exlibris,

thanks for the explanation, looks great!

You have done allot of research in the past so I would appreciate if you could share the knowledge you have gained and if you were building a dedicated room yourself what material specifically would you use, thickness along with actual build process from the framing stage onward, I assume you would do the ceiling also.

If I recall you used cedar in your place didn't you?

Why specifically soft wood like spruce?

Thanks in advance.

dev

Hi Exlibris,
I hope you are able to hear Mayer's preamps, I've read about his DHT 10y linestage and I'd bet it sounds stunning. That would certainly be a very interesting comparison to the AN M6 preamp. His DHT phono stage must be quite special as well. A DHT phono stage is a very rare bird
Charles,

charles1dad

Hi Albert,
Thank you for the compliments. The rectangles that make up the red wall are simply cherry veneers with a mixture of stain and oil finish from Germany. Each rectangle is one of three colours/shades of red and one of three sizes.
The artist/cabinet maker you refer to deserves that title. It's a very creative design, high quality workmanship and shows a good deal of imagination.
As for Audio Note....When I was looking for speakers to replace my MBLs I auditioned quite a few over the course of three or four months bit I kept revisiting the dealer with the Audio Note system just like I keep revisiting the Audio Note room at shows.

Audio Note frequently have great sound at shows and their attitude makes for a relaxing spot to hang out.

albertporter

Owner
Hi Dev,
Thank you. In my new space (I'm just set up in my living room) I rely on the Stein Harmonizer system for the room acoustics.
I still believe that if you have are lucky enough to have a dedicated listening room the best way to go is all-wood walls (a soft wood like spruce) treated with all-natural lacquer -- as if you were making a wooden musical instrument.

exlibris

Owner
Hi Charles,
There is always room for improvement but I think my system does, as you say, sound beautifully natural and right.
I can only speak for one of Thomas Mayer's creations (my amp) because that is the only one that I have heard. As you know, I wrote a short review of it above. I continue to stay in contact with Thomas and read his blog. We've recently been talking about a D3a LCR phono preamp and 10Y line stage.. I'm considering trying this against my AN M6 full-function preamp.

exlibris

Owner
Hi Albert,
Thank you for the compliments. The rectangles that make up the red wall are simply cherry veneers with a mixture of stain and oil finish from Germany. Each rectangle is one of three colours/shades of red and one of three sizes. It certainly didn't hurt the sound from my system but I won't go so far as to say that it benefited it.
[In my old house I coated the wooden walls with a sort of violin lacquer and that made a significant improvement.]

As for Audio Note....When I was looking for speakers to replace my MBLs I auditioned quite a few over the course of three or four months bit I kept revisiting the dealer with the Audio Note system just like I keep revisiting the Audio Note room at shows.

exlibris

Owner
Hi Bob,
Thank you for the compliments; all the best for the holidays,
Dave

exlibris

Owner
*wood helps

exlibris

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