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My system has continued to evolve over the past 5 years with the one constant being the Rockport Arrakis 2 bi-amplified speakers. They have continued to amaze me that as my electronics have changed and continued to improve, the Arrakis have continued to grow with the electronics as well. Every time I thought I had reached their sonic limit, I have been proven wrong and I am very happy about that.

I have now completely eliminated all tube based components in my system. I have always felt that if I could get the sound that I wanted without tubes, that would be wonderful but I never thought that would be possible. The combination of the TotalDAC digital front end and the Steve Dobbins Beat SE turntable and LT tonearm paired with the CH Precision P1 phono stage, the CH Precision L10 line stage and the CH Precision M10 amplifiers (run in active bi-amplification mode) have achieved this for me. 
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Room Details

Dimensions: 33’ × 20’  X large
Ceiling: 12’


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    • TotalDAC D1-Streamer MK2
    I just had my TD D1-Streamer upgraded to the latest version TD D1-Streamer MK2 (November 2022).

    In my setup, I use the TotalDAC D1-Player with its silent NAS using solid state drives to store all of my digital music files. Both the D1-Player and the D1-streamer are connected to a Belkin router and I control music selection using an IPAD mini running Roon remote (The D1-Player runs Roon Core and the TotalDAC D1-Streamer is a certified Roon end point).
    • TotalDAC D1-Digital Reclocker MK 2
    I have just had my TotalDAC D1-Digital Reclocker upgraded to the new MK 2 version (November 2021). The Digital Reclocker MK 2 sits between my D1-Streamer MK 2 and the D1-Twelve mono DAC's in my digital front end.
    • TotalDAC D1-Twelve MK3
    I just had my TD D1-Twelve upgraded to the new MK3 version (November 2022).

    The TotalDAC D1-Twelve DAC mk3 is composed of two mono bloc DAC's and a specialized re-clocker, so it is a 3 box system. The D1-Twelve DAC mk3 in combination with the D1-Streamer can play 16 or 24 bit format and 44.1KHz, 48KHz, 88.2KHz, 96KHz, 176.4KHz, 192KHz, and DSD sampling rates.
    • TotalDAC USB Gigafilter
    I have upgraded the TotalDAC USB Cable that connects the TotalDAC server to its internal re clocker to the new TotalDAC USB Gigafilter cable.
    • TotalDac D1-Player
    I have just had my D1-Player upgraded (November 2021) with a custom Live Power supply by TotalDac. The linear power supply also does filtering and cleansing of the Ethernet signal. The connection path for this is an ethernet cable between the NAS and power supply and then another ethernet cable from the outboard power supply to the router. In addition, the NAS is running Roon Core and since the TotalDAC D1-Server is a certified Roon endpoint, I am now using Roon Remote on an IPAD mini and using Roon as my music player (replacing MPAD). The D1-player can also be used as a upnp/dlna server. i am using a Nordost Odin 2 power cord on the D1-Player.
    • TotalDAC D1-Switch
    I just added the new TotalDAC D1-Switch to my digital front end. The switch connects to my Belkin router and now the TD D1-Streamer mk2 and the TD D1-Player connect to the the D1-switch instead of the router. This provides a very significant sonic improvement. I use a Nordost Valhalla 2 power cord for the D1-Switch.
    • Totaldac Live Power supply
    I just added the TotalDAC Live Power supply. This version can be used to provide power to my complete TotalDAC D1-Twelve digital front end - the D1-Streamer, the outboard reclocker and the 2 DAC's. I use a single Nordost Odin Gold power cord for the Live Power supply which is plugged into my Shuyata Everest power conditioner.
    • Nordost Odin Gold power cord
    I am now using a Nordost Odin Gold power cord for my TotalDAC Live power supply. This replaced the already wonderful Nordost Odin 2 power cord.
    • Nordost Valhalla 2 Ethernet Cables (2)
    I am using 2 of the new Nordost Valhalla 2 ethernet cables. The first one connects between the TotalDAC D1-Player and my Belkin router and the second one connects between my TotalDAC D1-Streamer and my Belkin router.
    • Audio Quest Diamond Ethernet Cable
    The AQ Diamond ethernet cable is used to connect the TotalDAC D1-Player to my TotalDAC NAS. This is used for the "dirty" ethernet connection.
    • Paul Hynes SR7 Linear Power Supply
    I have am using 2 of the Hynes Sr7 Linear power supplies. One is used to power the Belkin Router and the second one is used to power my network switch. Both of these replaced the stock switching power supplies that came with the Belkin router and the network switch.

    Both of these power supplies have had the grounding update done to them and are connected to one of my Telos GNR ground noise reducers.
    • Nordost Valhalla 2 Power Cord
    I use 4 Nordost Valhalla 2 power cords in my system.
    I use one of them to power the Beat SE outboard power supply.
    I use 2 of them to power the CH Precision P1 boxes (not the CH X1's).
    I use one of them to power the Nordost QB4 power strip from the Shunyata Everest 8000 power conditioner.
    • Nordost Odin 2 XLR IC
    Nordost Odin 2 Balanced IC's from the TotalDAC D1-Twelve mono DAC's to the CH Precision L1 true monaural preamp.
    • Shunyata Research Everest 8000 Power Distributor
    I am now using the Shunyata Everest 8000 power distributor which has replaced the Shunyata Triton V3 in my system for my front end electronics. I use a Nordost Odin Gold power cord for the Everest.
    • Nordost Odin Gold Power Cord
    I use a Nordost Odin Gold power cord with a 20 amp IEC connector from a wall outlet to power the Shunyata Everest 8000 power conditioner.
    • Nordost QBase QB4
    I am now using a Nordost Qbase QB4 power distribution box powered by a Nordost Valhalla 2 power cord from the Shunyata Everest 8000 power conditioner.
    • Shunyata Research Hydra DPC 6 V3 power conditioner
    I have now added the Shunyata DPC 6 V3 power conditioner for my computer based audio gear. I have my TD D1-Player, my network router, my network switch plugged into the DPC 6. I was very surprised by the improvement the DPC6 V3 made in my system sonics.

    The DPC 6 V3 is powered by an Echole Omnia power cord from a wall outlet.
    • Steve Dobbins The Beat SE
    I have recently replaced my wonderful Steve Dobbins The Beat turntable with Steve's latest turntable, The Beat SE. The Beat SE is a complete and thorough re-design of the original Beat turntable with about 99% of the table different from the original Beat. I have had the original Beat in my system for 8 years and it has undergone several upgrades during this timeframe that always further improved the sonics, but nothing prepared me for the improvement that the Beat SE has made in my analog playback.

    June 29 2021 Update: I just replaced the umbilical power cord connection between the Beat SE power supply and the Beat SE turntable with a new umbilical power cord that Steve worked on with Nordost. The results are simply amazing.

    October 1 2021 Update: Steve has now done further modifications to the Beat SE external power supply with internal wire upgrades with wiring from Nordost as well as adding an external grounding connection that enables me to ground the Beat SE power supply to my CAD GCR reference ground box.
    • Minus K BM-8 Vibration Isolation Platform
    A BM-8 Minus K vibration isolation platform placed underneath
    • Nordost Valhalla 2 Power Cord
    This Valhalla 2 power cord is used on the outboard power supply for The Beat SE turntable. This is plugged into the Nordost QB4 power strip. The QB4 is powered by a Nordost Valhalla 2 power cord which is plugged into the Shunyata Everest 8000 power conditioner.
    • Schroeder LT Tonearm with Magnesium arm tube
    I had my previous Schroeder LT tonearm with wood arm tube modified to the even better LT tonearm with Magnesium arm tube. It has the Lyra Olympus SL cartridge mounted on it and it is truly amazing to hear this combination. This arm has replaced the Reed 2A tonearm on my "Beat" turntable. The Olympus SL has never sounded anything like this.

    June 29 2021 Update: I have upgraded the LT arm cartridge mounting plate for my Lyra Atlas SL Lambda to a new one that consists of a carbon fiber top and bottom plate with a copper plate in the middle between the 2 carbon fiber layers.
    • Lyra Olympos SL
    The Lyra Olympos SL MC cartridge is now mounted on my second Schroeder LT tone arm with Magnesium arm tube. A truly great sounding combination.
    • Schroeder LT tone arm with Magenisum arm tube
    This is a new LT tonearm but now with an arm tube made from Magnesium instead of wood. It is a very significant upgrade in sonics. I plan to have my existing LT arm modified to have the Magnesium arm tube as well.
    • Lyra Atlas SL Lambda cartridge
    I have now replaced my wonderful Lyra Etna SL cartridge with the new Lyra Atlas SL Lambda cartridge. My previous experience was that the original Etna SL cartridge was the best sounding of all of the Lyra cartridges. But not any longer. I was fortunate enough to be able to compare the new Lambda versions of the Etna SL and the Atlas SL in my system and the Atlas SL Lambda is simply stunning to hear in my system. The new Lambda Etna SL is also wonderful and better than the original Etna SL, but the Lambda Atlas SL is superior in every way.
    • CH Precision True Dual Monaural P1 phono stage
    I have now upgraded my CH P1/X1 phono stage to the CH Precision True Dual Monaural phono stage. This consists of a P1 for the left channel, a separate P1 for the right channel and 2 of the optional CH X1 power supplies - one for each channel. As good as the stereo P1/X1 was, the true dual monaural P1 phono stage is something very special to hear.

    June 29, 2021 Update: I just replaced the umbilical power cords from the X1 power supplies to the CH P1 phono stage with a new umbilical that Steve worked on with Nordost. A very significant sonic improvement.
    • Nordost Odin Gold Power Cords
    I am now using two of the Nordost Odin Gold Power Cords to power the two CH Precision X1 external power supplies for my CH Precision P1 true dual monaural phono stage.
    • Nordost Odin 2 XLR IC
    I am now using Nordost Odin 2 balanced IC's between the CH Precision P1 true dual monaural phono stage and the CH Precision L1 true dual monaural preamp.
    • Adona Zero GXT Turntable Rack
    Finished in black with a top shelf of 27" in width.
    • Telos Ground Noise Reducer
    I have added two of the Telos GNR (Ground Noise Reducer) units to my system. One of the GNR's is connected to all of my analog front end electronics and the second GNR is used for my digital front end components.
    • Computer Audio Design (CAD) GC3 Ground Controls
    I am now using 2 of the CAD GC3 Ground Controls. One GC3 is used for signal ground with each of my CH Precision M1.1 amplifiers and the second GC3 is used for Earth Ground with my Rockport Arrakis external active crossover.
    • Computer Audio Design (CAD) Ground Control GCR
    I have added the CAD Ground Control Reference (GCR) to my system. This is used for signal grounds for my front end components (CH Precision P1 phono stage, CH Precision L1 line stage and my TotalDAC D1-Twelve digital front end) and also the earth ground for my Shunyata Everest 8000 power distributor.
    • CH Precision L10 True Dual Monaural LInestage
    The new CH Precision L10 True Dual Monaural linestage has replaced my long time reference, the CH Precision L1 true dual monaural linestage. As good as the 4 box version of the CH L1 linestage is, The CH Precision L10 True Dual Monaural (4 box) linestage surpasses it in every audio parameter.
    • Nordost Odin Gold Power Cords
    I am using two of the Nordost Odin Gold Power Cords to power the two CH Precision L10 external power supplies for my CH Precision L10 true dual monaural preamp.
    • CH Precision M10 amplifiers
    I now am using the CH Precision M10 mono block amplifiers. I have 2 of these and I run them in their active bi-amplification mode. These have just replaced (11/30/2021) my wonderful CH Precision M1.1 mono block amplifiers.
    • Nordost Odin Gold Power Cords (4)
    I am using 4 of the Nordost Odin Gold power cords on my CH Precision M10 amps. Each CH M10 amp outboard power supply requires 2 power cords each with 20 amp IEC connectors.
    • Nordost Odin 2 XLR IC
    I use a 9 meter run of Nordost Odin 2 XLR IC's from the CH Precision L1 true dual monaural preamp to the Rockport Arrakis 2 external crossover.
    • Rockport Technologies Arrakis 2 External crossover
    This is the active external crossover for the Rockport Arrakis 2 speaker. It takes the feed from the preamplifier and then splits the signal for the bass drivers and all of the upper frequency drivers.
    • Nordost Odin Gold Power Cord
    I am now using a Nordost Odin Gold power cord on my Rockport Arrakis external crossover. This replaced the already great Nordost Odin 2 power cord.
    • Nordost Odin 2 XLR IC
    I am now using 2 pairs of Nordost Odin 2 XLR IC's to connect the Rockport external crossover to the CH Precision M10 amplifiers.
    • Nordost Odin Gold Speaker Cables
    I am now using 2 pairs of Nordost Odin Gold speaker cables  to bi-amplify the Rockport Arrakis 2 speakers.These replaced 2 pairs of Odin 2 speaker cables.
    • Rockport Arrakis 2
    My speakers are the bi ampified version of the Rockport Arrakis 2 with the active external crossover.  I am driving the speakers with a pair of CH Precision M10 amplifiers run in active bi amplification mode.
    • Furutech GTX/NCF outlets
    I have added 4 of the Furutech GTX/NCF outlets with the GTX outlet Frames and the 105D NCF Carbon Fiber outlet covers. These are used for each of my CH M10 mono block amps and the Rockport Arrakis 2 outboard crossover.
    • Furutech NCF Booster
    I have added three of the Furutech NCF Cable Boosters after some extensive auditioning. I have one of them under the Odin Gold power cord for the Rockport external crossover (IEC end), one under the Odin Gold PC for the TotalDAC Live power supply (IEC end) and the third one under the Odin 2 power cord for the TotalDAC D1-Player (IEC end).
    • REL Acoustics G1 sub bass system Six Pack
    I am now using the REL G1 sub bass system in the REL Six Pack Configuration. The Six Pack Configuration is 6 of the REL G1 subs configured as 2 sub towers of 3 G1's each. One stack of three G1's for the left channel and one stack of three G1's for the right channel. The bottom G1 of each stack is connected to an M10 amplifier that powers the bass drivers of the Rockport Arrakis and the two G1's that sit on top of that stack are daisy chained together. I am using the REL designed Bassline Blue sub cables to connect all of the subs as required. Each of the stacks is located to the outside of the Rockport Arrakis 2 speakers and just about flush with the front baffle of the Arrakis using the same approximate toe in angle as the main speakers.

    To power all of the G1's, I am using 6 Nordost Tyr 2 power cords and 2 custom versions of the Furutech e-TP60 power distributor that uses Furutech GTX-D NCF (R) outlets replacing the stock outlets. I am using 2 Nordost Odin 2 power cords from the wall outlets to each of the Furutech e-TP60 power distributors.

    The REL G1 six pack replaced my previous 2 REL Studio III sub bass systems. 
    • Blinn Double wide component rack
    Blinn double wide component rack with 3" thick walnut stained maple shelving.
    • Silent Running Audio (SRA) Virginia Class amp stands
    I am now using the superb SRA Virginia Class amplifier stands under my CH Precision M10 mono block amplifiers. I also am using the HRS Nimbus footers (1.5" height version) under the M10 amplifiers.
    • HRS SRX with M3X2 isolation base
    I have added 2 of the HRS SRX amp stands with the M3X2 isolation bases with G7 footers, These are for the power supplies of my CH Precision M10 amps.
    • Nordost Sort Kones
    I am now using Nordost Sort Kones under many of my components. I am using a combination of both the BC and TC sort kones. I am using them under all of my TotalDAC digital components - both DACs, the Outboard Reclocker, the Streamer, the Live Power supply, the D1 player and the NAS. I also use them under my Beat SE turntable outboard power supply (not the turntable itself) and my Rockport Arrakis external crossover.
    • Isonic Ultrasonic RCM
    I have added the Isonic ultrasonic RCM. This is a wonderful RCM. I can do up to 10 LP's at once. It doesn't dry the records - but that is simple to do on my Loricraft.
    • Loricraft PRC 4 Deluxe RCM
    Loricraft record cleaning machine that replaced my Audio Desk RCM. I liked how easy the Audio Desk RCM was to use, but after having to replace it 3 times due to defects I decided it was time to replace it. The Loricraft PRC 4 Deluxe seems to do at least as good a job at cleaning and perhaps a little better using the AIVS fluids.
    • Custom LP Record Cabinets
    There are now 3 of these beautiful LP record cabinets that I commissioned a friend to build for me. Its so much easier to find the LP that I am looking for and to put it back than it was with more traditional shelves that I was using before.

Comments 694

Owner
Thanks Zephyr.

Goodwins did a great job and the 2 folks that came were a pleasure to work with and both great guys.

babybear

Babybear....thanks for all the background info. I hope that you enjoy the new speakers very much! I'm also glad to hear Goodwin's hasn't lost their touch; they are a class act to be sure!

zephyr24069

Owner
Hi Zephyr and Kevinzoe,

Thanks very much.

I really enjoyed my system with the Magico M5's. It is a wonderful speaker and paired with the 2 Rel Studio III sub bass systems in my room the sound that I was able to achieve was, at least to me, one of the better systems that I have had the opportunity to hear.

Having said that, I have always liked Rockport speakers. I have heard the Rockport Altair on 2 occasions over the past 3 years and always enjoyed what I heard. I then heard the new Rockport Avior paired with VTL electronics at the 2012 CES and again, I really liked what I heard. Given the size of my room, I began to think that perhaps a truly high quality, extraordinarily engineered, physically larger speaker that is expertly setup with my room might be able to achieve a level of sound that a physically smaller speaker might not be able to do. When the opportunity to get the Arrakis arose, I decided to do it. I had not heard the Arrakis but I was able to speak with a person who owns a pair which helped convince me. The question that i had to think through carefully was whether to get the passive version or the active version of the Arrakis. The active version has an active external crossover and requires two full sets of amplifiers, an additional 2 pairs of IC's, additional power cords, amp stands, etc. Again, I was able to speak to several people that I trust about about an active speaker system such as this and became convinced that an active system done correctly makes it possible to achieve even higher levels of performance.

Goodwins High End from Boston came down last week to setup and dial in the speakers with my 2 Rel Studio III sub bass systems and my room and they did an amazing job. They were here for almost 3 days doing the work. The sound exceeds my expectations regardless of what medium I use (CD, SACD, LP), or what type of music I play.

babybear

Congratulations on your further system upgrade and adopting a very beautiful set of speakers. What prompted your change in speakers to the Rockports?

zephyr24069

Hi Babybear/Arnie,
Congrats on one sweat looking system!

Did I see in your equipment list a reference to Magico speakers that preceeded your Rockports? If so, then care to mention why you changed?

I don't see any acoustical treatments listed in your equipment list - could you tell me about what you have, and where it's placed? For example, are the 3 polyfusers to the side of each speaker helmholtz bass trap while the curved nature diffuses the mids/high frequencies to reduce comb filtering effects? Or is it something completely different? Sorry but I noticed the right wall has a middle treatment that isn't the same height as the ones on either side of it - how come?

Lastly, what's your room's dimensions and do you have freq and time dimension measurements?

Congrats on a wonderful looking room and system! Kudos.

kevin

kevinzoe

Hi Arnie,

Thank you!!! Well, someday, if i ever find it...passive it is! I saw that the owner of one of the pairs had his upgraded to Arrakis 2 with the active crossover...so that can be done a future date.

But in any event, looks like i will keep my eye out for passive. Enjoy your incredible system!!!!!!!!!!!!

lloydelee21

Owner
Hi Lloyd,

Thanks very much.

While I am certainly no expert, if you were to have the passive version of the Arrakis which has no external active crossover you should be able to run that version of the Arrakis with a stereo amp (and that version of the Arrakis is single wire as well. The version that I have is the active version which can only be run with 2 sets of amplifiers. In my case 2 sets of VTL Siegfried mono blocks (4 amps). The 2 Arrakis setups that you have seen must have been the active version. Also, the active external crossover is configured with balanced inputs only from the preamp and 2 sets of balanced outputs only to the amps.

I am happy to answer any questions. Hope that helps,

Arnie

babybear

Babybear,

Absolutely incredible. As JFrech says, if i ever upgrade from my Wilsons, this is probably the only way to go. i too have heard other Rockports and been impressed.

I own a Gryphon Colosseum dual-mono. I have seen only 2 setups with the Arrakis...both had 2 sets of monos...4 amps! Am i going to be able to run the Arrakis 1 (original) with 1 dual mono Gryphon Colosseum??? Thanks for any advice!!!

lloydelee21

Owner
Hi Metralla,

Thanks very much.

You are right in that the Arrakis definitely don't need the 2 Rel Studio III's but since I already had them, we went ahead and dialed them in and once the integration of the Room, the 2 REL Studio III's and the Arrakis was completed the sound was simply breathtaking.

babybear

Owner
Hi Eddie,

I hope everything is well with you.

My wife said the same words to me!!

You have got to come on down to hear this setup. The Magico M5 setup was so good but the Rockport Arrakis in the active version are something very special. Let me know.

babybear

Fantastic addition - they look simply fabulous in your room. It's hard to imagine the Arrakis need the 2 Rel subwoofers, but boy, the bass must be mind-blowing. Congratulations on your whole system - just delightful to read about. Thanks for posting.

Regards,

metralla

Arnie, you are crazy! It's not even Summer time, so you can't blame the Texas heat. Your room sounded amazing already. Congrats and can't wait to hear the new addition.

zerv

Owner
Thanks so much John.

I am looking forward to hearing your system once the room acoustics project is finished. Of course you are welcome to come by anytime to hear my system with the bi amped Arrakis.

babybear

Hi Arnie, Rockports are fabulous speakers, if I ever get the itch to move off wilsons, Rockports are definitely it. I've heard some of their other models and the transparency is astounding. Congratulations ! I am sure they sound fantastic in your room!

jfrech

Owner
System edited: I've just completed a major system upgrade. I have moved to the Rockport Arrakis 2 speaker system from my wonderful Magico M5 speakers. The Arrakis 2 uses the Be tweeter and a Rockport external active crossover that takes the signal from the VTL 7.5 Series 3 preamp and splits it between the bass drivers of the Arrakis and the mids and highs. The crossover has adjustable gain for each channel. I am driving the Arrakis with 2 sets of the VTL Siegfried mono block amps both using the Gold Lion KT 88 tubes. Goodwins High End from the Boston area flew down to my home to do the setup. They did an amazing job of integrating the Arrakis with my 2 Rel Studio III subs and most importantly my room. The sound is nothing short of amazing (at least to me).

babybear

Owner
System edited: I changed my digital front end to an all MSB digital front end. I now have the MSB Platinum CD IV with the Signature power base mated with the MSB Diamond DAC IV with optional clock module powered by the Diamond power base.

babybear

Hi Babybear
Sounds like a homerun.
Thank you for your insight.

rugyboogie

Owner
System edited: I've made some changes. Replaced my Audio Excellence Power Wing conditioner with the Absolare Purifier power conditioner that is powered from a wall socket with an Echole Signature Power Cord. There is a very significant improvement in sound quality compared to the Power Wing (and the Power Wing was very good). Also replaced my Audio Desk RCM with the Loricraft PRC Deluxe RCM.

babybear

Owner
Hi Rugyboogie,

Thanks very much.

My previous table was a Steve Dobbins Garrard 301. I would say that the Beat is better than the Garrard in the following areas:
1. A significantly lower noise floor
2. Image Stability of performers within the soundstage
3. Wider and deeper soundstage
4. Deeper and tighter bass
5. The sense that the table never loses control over the musical performance even on complex musical passages
6. Upper frequencies sound even more natural and real.

Hope this helps.

babybear

Hi Babybear
Stunning system, great room and love your Beat table.
Can you describe how the Beat betters your previous table when you have time please.
Thank you,

rugyboogie

Hi Arnie,

I heard the Rel at a dealer once and was quite impressed. I can only imagine how two would sound.

I forgot about the new Reed arm. I will have to check it out on their web site. I got to hear the Schroeder LT vs the Reed at RMAF last year. The bass was better on the Schroeder but the highs where a little nicer on the Reed. They both had the Allnic Puritas. Of course the Schroeder was just a prototype. Steve says they are still deciding on the best bearing to use.

I have heard The Beat a couple of times. Once in Mike Lavinges system and once at RMAF. One of the best TT's I have heard. If I had more funds I would love to have one.

Sean

sarcher30

Owner
HI Sean,

Thanks very much.

I started out with one Rel Studio III and it made a significant improvement and then 6 months later I tried the second one and it was even better so I went with 2 of them.

I have talked to Steve about the Linear Tracking arm as well so it will be interesting to hear it once they have it ready to go. I have also asked him about the new Reed 2P arm that came out in the last couple of months - it has both on the fly VTA and Azimuth adjustment and uses 3 bearings instead of 4.

I really enjoy The Beat. Works like a champ and sounds so amazingly good. I've had mine for over a year now and it is my main source. I previously had one of Steve's fully loaded Garrard 301's and that too was wonderful, but The Beat is a definite step above that.

Arnie

babybear

Wow nice room. 2 Rel studio 3's nice. I also have an Allnic H3000 and Reed 3Q. I am thinking about upgrading to the Schroeder LT when Steve and Frank are done with it. How do you like the Beat?

Sean

sarcher30

Owner
Hi Sabertouch,

If I remember correctly, it was around $8K to upgrade from the Series 2 to the Series 3. It was alot of money but before I did it I was able to compare a Series 3 that my dealer had to my Series 2 and it was a pretty significant improvement. As for tubes, I was using a pair of CIFTE tubes that came from VTL. In the past few months I have upgraded to a pair of NOS Telefunken 802s tubes that VTL had tested and matched. Also a very nice upgrade.

babybear

What was the cost to upgrade your 2 series VTL to the 3 version?
Are you using the stock tubes in your pre or have you tried other NOS
types? Thanks.

sabertouch

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