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In my small dedicated listening room with vault ceilings this is the best system so far. Sonus Faber Guarneri Homage's which were some of the last pair to be brought into the US along with new Jadis JA 30 Mk2 Mono Blocks utilizing KT150's and Smooth Plate Telefunken tubes, a CAT SL1 Renaissance Black Path BPX with phono. The Linn LP12 Radikal D, Karousel/Kore is the front-end with a Lyra Kleos. Esoteric DV60 SACD player, Esoteric D-05 DAC, Alternate ss amp: Jeff Rowland model 8T modded by Jeff. Room tuning devices include the Real Traps Mondo Traps, Mini Traps and Shakti Hallograph's. Grand Prix Monaco amp stands. Audio Art SE-1 power cords with Furutech connectors.Zenwave power cord PL1 with Furutech NCF 50, Zenwave D2 Ultra ic's, Graceline 1.5 meter ic and Black Cat PC-1 Silverstar power cord for Rowland. Two REL T5i subs...running high level off the amp outputs and with Signal subwoofer cables and Supra pc's. Nessie Vinylcleaner.
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Room Details

Dimensions: 11’ × 10’  Small
Ceiling: 13’


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    • Linn LP-12 Radikal D/Karousel
    belt, 33, no arm, mtr drive upgraded to Radikal D . New Karousel bearing.
    • Linn Radikal
    Radikal D power supply for the LP12
    • Linn Trampolin 2
    Upgrade to the basic Linn base. Minimizes the impact of the support for the table.
    • well tempered wta
    Well Tempered 'Black' arm updated with VDH cabling running all through and dual weighting system
    • Lyra Kleos
    Tremendous resolution.
    • Sonus Faber Guarneri Homage
    New in '06. These are absolute works of art with sound to match. In my small room they are magnificent
    • Convergent Audio SL-1 Ren BPX
    New CAT SL-1 Renaissance Black path BPX with phono
    • Jadis JA 30 Mk2
    Incredible tube mono block utilizing KT150's. 45 watts/ch of Pure Class A
    • Jeff Rowland Model 8T
    250w x 2 upgraded top plate, original choke power supply, far superior to later dual mono unit. Modded to transimpedance modules and ground connect.
    • Nordost Tyr
    Amazing cables and a BIG improvement .
    • Nordost Tyr
    Phono cable
    • Nordost Frey
    Bi-wire Superbly fast and detailed
    • Nordost Red Dawn Rev 11
    2.5 mtr bi-wire set with mini spades for ARC amp. Very fast and detailed.
    • ps audio micro lab
    Micro lab used on Digital only
    • Harmonix footers
    under Esoteric and Radikal D
    • Sound Anchor rack stand rack stand
    Three leg Sound ANchor rack stand with turntable support
    • HARMONIC TECHNOLOGY CYBER PLATINUM
    DIGITAL IC RCA /RCA
    • Grand Prix audio Monaco amp stand with Apex feet
    Grand Prix Audio amp stand in Black with Apex footers under Rowland.
    • Grand Prix Audio Monaco amp stand
    Monaco amp stand with standard acrylic shelf under the ARC D70Mk2
    • Signal cable REL Speakon link cable for REL sub
    • REL Acoustics T5i
    small sub for a small room. 8” long throw driver...Newest model.
    • REL Acoustics T5i
    Second REL T5i, balances the system. Newest model. Long throw 8” woofer.
    • Audio Art Cable SE-1
    Dual cables. Furutech fi-28 R plugs...great match with the Jadis amps.
    • IVAC CUSTOM 1
    All gold power cable for transport.Custom made by IVAC with custom made hospital connectors for REL sub
    • Black Cat Cable PC-1 Silverstar PC
    This one is a game changer for the Rowland amp. Chris Sommovigo has brought one heck of a pc to market!
    • Graceline Cable Graceline One Kibou
    Ic for the CAT to the Rowland
    • Zenwave Audio D2 Ultra
    ic between Esoteric player and preamp.
    • Zenwave Audio PL11 with Furutech NCF-50
    PC for the CAT preamp.
    • Supra LoRad 2.5 Power cable
    DIY Supra Lorad 2.5 in a 1.5 meter run with a 15 amp Wattgate iec and Wattgate plug for the REL sub
    • Cable elevators Plus
    Ceramic lifters to move cables off floor
    • Target turntable/amp stand
    Stand for CD transport
    • Real Traps Mondo Traps
    Dual Mondo Traps for bass trapping. Acoustic room treatment devices. IMHO, a must for any true 'phile.
    • Real Traps Mini Traps
    Mini Trap on rear wall behind listening position.
    • Signal Cable Inc. REL Speakon Link
    REL subwoofer cable from Signal Cable. A BIG improvement on the stock REL cable.
    • Shakti Hallograph
    Room tuning acoustic device. Fundamental improvement
    • Esoteric DV60
    SACD player
    • Esoteric D-05
    Will be for use with a future streamer. Dual mono DAC.
    • Oyaide R-1
    Receptacle
    • Furutech E-TP66G
    Power strip
    • Sablon Audio Corona Reserva
    Power cord from the wall to the Furutech strip
    • Nessie Vinycleaner
    Best record cleaner I have owned.

Comments 215

Congrats...Nordost and Guarneri have a big following as a combination!

lloydelee21

Owner
System edited: Added a 1.5 meter pait of Nordost Tyr ic's. A superb and worthwhile upgrade.

daveyf

Owner
Hi Pradeep, I am considering a second T5. However, I'm pretty happy with the set up right now and I'm not sure if a 2nd sub would overload the room a little.
I'm also considering an upgrade to the TT...not sure what, but I'm leaning towards a Lingo 2 or 3.

daveyf

Hi Dave
Congrats on a really impressive system. How is the T5 coming along? Have you considered a 2 nd T5? I know that you mentioned your room size as that reason you opted for a T5 instead of a larger REL. I had a REL 505 for a year and then added a 2nd sub. There is something magical about a pair of subs in a 2 channel system. It's not that the bass gets louder but more coherence and solidity in LFE. It's something to ponder.
Cheers
Pradeep

sunnyboy1956

For sure!

lloydelee21

Owner
Thanks, LLoyd. It is a real pleasure when everything works just so. Can't always count on that with tubes....BUT when tubes are singing, it makes up for all the hassles, at least IMHO.

daveyf

Congrats!!! Great to hear the tube problem is resolved. Enjoy!

lloydelee21

Owner
The tube problem is resolved and now the NOS Mullards are sounding great. Better highs, more robust lows and more precise imaging are some of the benefits to these tubes. Again, tube rolling is IMHO a great way to go.

daveyf

Tubes! Love-hate! Removing, tapping on table gently and re-inserting can help according to Brent Jessee.

lloydelee21

Owner
Hi Lloyd, I am still getting the Mullards to break in so I'm not sure of the sound yet. I think that the Mullards are very strong in the bass and are also quite able to open up the soundstage vs . my older tubes. However, a couple of days ago, i had one of the new tubes begin to go a little noisy on me with what seemed like a water bubbling sound and I am now watching this as it seems to be very intermittent. So far, that noise hasn't reoccurred so I am not sure if it has vanished or will rear its ugly head again. I love tubes, but you sure are always on the edge with them, never 100% sure of their reliability, LOL. Luckily, I bought mine from Kevin Deal and he gave me a warranty, so that's a BIG plus.

daveyf

Nice, Davey! I just rolled out a pair of Mullard 6DJ8s which i use as spares, having just received a replacement set of Amperex 6922s from Brent Jessee. For the first time, i actually found i did not mind waiting for the replacements to arrive...thanks to the EAT tube damper i put on the Mullards! At 19 bucks each, definitely worth a try!

Meanwhile, the Amperexs are more detailed, lithe and controlled thru the spectrum than the Mullards...the one thing i am trying to figure out is if the Mullards were stronger in the upper bass (making the sound seem fuller)...or whether that was an extraneous reverb and given the Amperex's performance everywhere else, whether they are 'correct'. very subtle but other than this point, the Amperexes are staying. (Its just that i am a bass freak and enjoy listening at low volumes and still feeling the slam.)

Enjoy your Mullards! Pls post update over earlier tubes when you get some time!

lloydelee21

Owner
System edited: Rolled in Mullard NOS CV4003's into the Line stage of the CAT.

daveyf

Owner
Lloyd, thank you for your thoughts.
I had heard SF with Nordost on a few other occasions, but not with my
GH's. Last year I tried Nordost Red Dawn 11 with my ARC and the GH's; I liked the combo so much that when the opportunity arose to go with the Frey's for the Rowland and GH's, I jumped.
The Frey's are still breaking in,however, I am VERY impressed so far and would highly recommend them to anyone looking for new speaker cables, particularly if you own SF G's.

daveyf

Congrats!! I know of a few people who have run Nordost with SF in the past. Enjoy!

lloydelee21

Owner
System edited: Added Nordost Frey bi-wire speaker cables. Superbly fast and detailed. Opens the soundstage and increased depth reproduction... a great speaker cable.

daveyf

Interesting opinions. Thanks for the link.

jlind325is

Owner
Jlind325is take a look at this thread: http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?cspkr&1262216844&openflup&7&4#7

It fairly well sums up my opinions and a few others on the differences between GM and GH. Today, like many others, i am even more of the opinion that GM's are not even in the same league as GH's. GH's are just far superior.

daveyf

How would describe the differences between the homage's and memento's?

jlind325is

Owner
If you have an opportunity to hear GH's, I think you may well like them a LOT better than the GM's. Many people, including myself do. I haven't heard the new GE's, BUT they had better be awfully darn good to better the GH's.

daveyf

It was the Guarneri Memento, I haven't had the chance to hear your version.

jlind325is

Owner
Thanks, Jlind325is, I am pretty sure what you are saying in regards to the price bracket is correct. I know that the B and G series subs are better, as they should be for the money. Only problem is I have tried a larger sub in my room and it simply overdrives the room. I suspect that the B or G would do the same thing, which is why I opted for the T5, which IMO, is phenomenal for the money and a great match for the size of my room and speed of the GH's.
In a larger room, the choice would have been easier.
BTW, which Guarneri's did you hear?

daveyf

I know what your getting it, I too feel resonance with my T2. I believe it is a matter of the price bracket. I don't feel my B2 resonate like my T2 does. It can be hard to determine if the sub is rattling or just vibrating because it isn't heavy enough to lock itself to the floor. With the B2 at around 80lbs it is heavy enough to mitigate the effect of sitting on carpet has. The Sub Dude helped the T2 "talking" in this regard. It by no means made it close to the B2 but it helped.

About a year ago I auditioned Sonus fabers Cremona Auditor and Guarneri's with a B1 and a Mc2102. It still stands as one of the best systems I've heard. If at some point you can audition a B or G series I hope you do so. They are great pieces if one an afford it. I'm quite sure that Cremona Auditors will be my next upgrade, if only the Guarneri's were cheaper......

jlind325is

Owner
Jlind325is, I am fairly certain I am not overdriving the sub. When I say that the cabinet is fairly resonant, what I mean is that while the sub is playing, I can feel the cabinet resonate, this is at all volumes! Unlike my speakers, which when playing one cannot feel the cabinet moving at all. Like JA from Stereophile does in his tests, If one were to put an accelerometer on the cabinet, the REL would be showing to vibrate. Perhaps this is not impacting the sound of the REL, but I have my doubts. Another suggestion, that Lloydlee had come up with, is to place the Auralex Sub Dude under the sub. I see that you do that also, would seem to be a good idea and I will be ordering one.
My T5 isn't rattling, but I do think some mass loading from the top will be VERY beneficial. That's my next project after I have rolled in new tubes into my tube gear.....as I said, NEVER ending and you're right it is FUN.

daveyf

Analysis Plus also has Speak-On connector with your choice of cable in various gauges. Barrel spade connector fits MC275.

Signal Cable I believe is 10 gauge with Speak-on connector.

lapierre

When you say the cabinet is very resonant, are you sure you aren't over driving the sub and hearing the driver break up? In addition to my B2 I also have a T2, during some movies when the sub was receiving a significant LFE signal, the sub would sound like it was rattling. After further analysis I determined that mass loading it from the top (with bags of beans etc) reduced the rattle but in reality I was overdriving the sub. I was just asking too much from the T2. When I substituted the B2 during these passages it just sailed right through.

I also have an Aurolex Sub Dude isolation platform for the T2. It also tightened up the T2's response and depth. I have not tried it under the B2. I'm curious to see how it differs between downward and forward firing designs. Maybe something too look into....

I agree with you, there is always something in the chain to tweak and analyze. It is fun to do but can really take away from the enjoyment. Have fun.

jlind325is

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