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    • Tekton Design MOAB
    These speakers use a double tweeter array to produce the midrange. The Be tweeter between the arrays is used as the actual tweeter. Then two big ass woofers are added. Extremely well reviewed and high value speakers!
    • Mr K Passive Preamplifier PPA01
    This is an extremely high quality autoformer based passive preamp. There is absolutely no noise but with with excellent soundstaging and dynamics. 

    • Aria Audio Aria Signature MK2
    This is a beautiful hand-built amplifier that puts out100 watts of Class A power with very high current capability. A extremely seductive yet authoritative sound with the Moabs.
    • MHDT Orchid
    The Orchid DACs are legendary. They use the TDA 1541A R2R chip for a a realistic and natural sound. This Orchid was Bill Dion's (grannyring) personal DAC which he highly modified by doing the following:
    - Upgraded the output capacitors to a custom made set of 2.2uf copper foil in beeswax, flat stacked design caps from Jupiter Condenser. Chris of Jupiter does not offer these out as they cost too much to build and takes too much time to manufacture. They are a sonic cut above the fantastic round Jupiter copper foil caps. 
    - 4 Miflex KPCU-02 0.1 micro farad copper foil caps in other key positions. 
    - 10 carefully selected resistor types located though-out the DAC 

    • Innuos PULSE
    Network Streamer internal with a RECAP2 power supply by Dr. Sean Jacobs built-in. Uses the innuOS 2.0 and Sense software. It's the best sounding streamer, OS and control software I've ever used. Here is more info:
    ⦿ Medical-grade filtered IEC 
    ⦿ Audio-grade toroidal transformer with an epoxy-filled center for dampening vibration, magnetic screening with coated SYN-SHIELD copper tape between windings and wrapped in black Mylar Tape
    ⦿ Over 40000 µF of high-end Mundorf Capacitors
    ⦿ Coilcraft Inductor

    • Inakustik Referenz LS-2404 Air Interconnects and Speaker Cables
    Inakustik Referenz LS-2404 Air Interconnects and Speaker Cables. These are meticulously made open-weave copper cables. Each strand is separated to insure an air insulation between the strands. It makes for an open very natural sound with the best bass I've had in my listening room. Expensive but worth it.
    • Network Acoustics Muon System
    This is a complete digital cable system (filter, LAN cable, USB cable). This at a higher level than the famed EVO system.
    • Cayin Audio Mini-CD MK2
    This is an excellent little CD player. I mostly stream but I still have hundreds of CDs.
    • DIY Power cables
    DIY power cables. They use multi-strand copper, an open weave, cotton cord in the center and ERS cloth at both ends. It's the formula Danny Richie uses for his power cables. They have an open, airy yet very solid sound. The key is to break them in for hundreds of hours.
    • Synergistic Research Powercell 12 UEF
    This is a classic power conditioner. It's UEF/EM based and compliments every component plugged in to it!
    • Synergistic Research Galileo SX Grounding Block
    The Galileo SX Grounding Block makes the system absolutely silent at idle and creates very black backgrounds for music. I made my own "high definition" grounding cables.
    • Synergistic Research Black Box

    The Black Box is a Low Frequency Resonator Array that works in conjunction with the Subwoofers, Atmospheres and FEQ X4 to solve bass node issues.  

    • Synergistic Research ART System
    This is Synergistic Research's older acoustic system that's based on resonators. It works very well with their current UEF system and provides excellent results. Complete ART systems are getting hard to find.
    • Synergistic Research: Atmosphere XL-4, Atmosphere, Mini-Atmosphere, FEQ X4 (2), UEF Dots, UEF Panels, Risers, ECT and GCT
    The UEF Panels, UEF Dots, Black Box, Risers, ECT and GCT are all types of sound resonators. I use an Atmosphere XL-4 (green ATM), Atmosphere (red ATM), FEQ X4 (2) (red ATMs) and Mini-Atmosphere (green ATM) - when used with the Synergistic Research control software they generate various frequencies of Schumann Resonances around the room. Bottom line they work: create a huge/realistic listening experience!
    • Townshend Audio Seismic Isolation Podiums
    These decouple and "float" your speakers on a spring-loaded metal base. It opens-up the sound and adds solidity to the bass but doesn't make the sound harsh like most metal speaker bases.
    • Akiko Audio Tuning Stick; Kemp QA Plug (2) and Zero One (2)
    The Akiko Audio, Kemp and Zero One products treat the signal and power in my system keeping the electrons spinning around the electronic signals as uniform as possible or by adding more standard frequency Schumann Resonances. These products are excellent at making your system sound more "natural".
    • Synergistic Research Tranquility Bases and Tranquility Pod
    I use original MIGs under the Tranquility Bases.
    • Puritan 156, ADD-Powr Sorcer and ElectraClear EAU-1
    The Puritan is an excellent line conditioner. The ADD-Powr and ElectraClear devices actually add electromagnetics (EM) to the AC line using an active circuit and algorithm. Contrary to popular belief not all EM is bad for sound quality in stereo systems. The proof is in the listening.
    • Puron AC Line Conditioner
    I use this in the first outlet of my Synergistic Research power conditioner. It gives a more realistic presentation of vocals and reveals a little more texture and impact to the bass.
    • Stein H2 Harmonizer system
    I have 4 Stein H2s in my system.I went with one in each of corner of the room with a Stein stone at each and a Stein diamond on the ceiling in the center of the room. They add layers and layers of depth with each vocalist/instrument being in their own separate but integrated spaces.
    • Tombo Audio Lotus Harmonic Enhancer
    The bell on the top gives high resonance frequency while the tip on the top of the bell performs as a wave guide streaming high frequency up to the ceiling.
    • Swiss Digital Fuse Boxes
    The Swiss Digital Fuse Box replaces the fuse in your component with a pure copper "sluggo". The "sluggo" comes in various types depending on what coating, if any, is applied to it. The bottom line it allows much more current to flow into the electronics which is especially important with high current power amps. Every part of the sonic presentation is enhanced. I now use one on my power amp, DAC and streamer.
    • Perfect Path Technologies Total Contact, RCA caps, Stop-It duplex plugs, E-Mats & E-Cards
    This company has now closed because the owner has passed away. These products work to achieve a uniform and consistent RF/EMI and electron treatment around my components which greatly helps the sonics.
    • Audio Magic Pulsed Electron Alignment
    The PEAs are battery powered. Spintronics is the ability to control or manipulate how electrons spin. Electrons spinning around electronic signals carry audio information. The goal of the PEA devices its to get the electrons spinning as uniformly as possible. It opens up the sound and makes subtle cues in the music even more real.
    • Timbernation and Bright Star Audio Platforms
    Solid maple platforms stained cherry for electronics and Bright Star platforms for the subs.

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I've added Inakustik Referenz LS-2404 Air interconnects and speaker cables to my system. These are meticulously made open-weave copper cables. Each strand is separated to insure an air insulation between the strands. It makes for an open very natural sound with the most tuneful bass I've had in my listening room. I'm still using my DIY power cables but I may upgrade to the Inakustik for at least the power amp if I can swing the cost.

sbayne

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I recently saw that Synergistic Research may come out with a Black Box that is intended to sit on top of another Black Box. This makes sense to me because the Black Box is an acoustic resonator. I've been using stacked ATM resonators for years now. The increase in soundstage depth both front/back and left/right is easy to hear. So with that in mind, I placed the Vibratron (which is also a resonator) on top of the Black Box. The result brings even more soundstage, solidity and naturalness to the sound. Everything matters in sound reproduction - it is much more than just replicating frequencies - its timbre, harmonics and second order reflections that makes audio seem live.

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I've gone all-in on the Swiss Digital Fuse Boxes. I now have one in my amp, streamer and DAC. The sluggos have been driving me a little crazy though. After much listening and break-in time I've concluded the graphene sluggo should only be used with high current power supplies. Otherwise, the graphene sluggo sounds too bright and edgy. The graphene was basically unlistenable in my streamer and DAC even after days of break-in. The gold plated sluggo was supposed to be "warmer" sounding than the regular copper sluggo but I found the opposite to be true. The gold sluggo was also too edgy. So, I'm using a high purity copper sluggo in the streamer and DAC. The design of the SDFB makes sense and it definitely shows how a little fuse can change the sound of a component. Just do some serious listening and don't assume the graphene sluggo (the most expensive one) will be the  best for every component!

sbayne

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"A Les Paul Gold Top into a Fender Tweed amp. Nice!" Thanks. I bought them locally and got good deals. Just keeping them as investments -- my playing is not nearly good enough for that caliber of classic guitar equipment!

sbayne

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I was a little surprised that Bill Dion's (Grannyring) highly modified personal Orchid DAC recently came up for sale. I've worked with Bill in the past on some mods and crossovers so I knew the mods would be excellent. I've also owned an Orchid in the past so I knew what the basic sound from that unit is like. I went ahead and purchased it. As expected, its an extremely organic sounding DAC with well defined and tuneful bass.

sbayne

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I've recently added a Swiss Digital Fuse Box to my power amp. It replaces the fuse in your component with a pure copper "sluggo". The "sluggo"comes in various types depending on what coating, if any, is applied to it. It allows much more current to pass into the electronics which is especially important with high current power amps. I'm experimenting with types of "sluggos" and making sure each one is properly burned-in. So far, every one is excellent and has enhanced every part of the sonic presentation.

sbayne

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No doubt the Allegri is an excellent performer but the Mr. K unit is better overall in its soundstaging and dynamics. I did some serious listening today with an  an audiophile friend and he thought basically the same thing.

sbayne

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I continue to be amazed that audiophiles who pay thousands for high-end equipment don't give it adequate time to fully break-in. I recently bought a used passive preamp that has extremely high-quality transformers and over built attenuators. The sound has drastically changed after 100 hours of run-time. The soundstage and dynamics were excellent from the beginning but now are spectacular! You really have to give components a chance to sound their best before selling them.

sbayne

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I've recently added a Mr. K autoformer based passive preamp.Its hand built and extremely high quality. Excellent soundstage and dynamics.

sbayne

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I've added a SR Galileo SX Grounding Block to my system. The system is absolutely quiet at idle and music just seems to pop a little more from the background. Getting good grounding cables for it has been challenging so I've been working on making my own. The micro-banana connection is the main obstacle.

sbayne

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milpai - Yep, I had the same problem. If you look closely at the picture I have the power cord in the top outlet into the wall and the 3 prong in the bottom plug so there is no space issues. However, I did find one on Amazon which would probably work well because of its a 3 sided design. I tried posting the link but Audiogon wouldn't let me. Try searching

GE 3-Outlet Extender, T-Shaped Adapter Spaced

Scott

sbayne

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I've been asked if I still use subs with my Moabs. Previously, I used a distributed sub array with 4 subs. After a lot of listening with my new Aria amp I decided to take the sub array out for a while. My system may not play quite as low but its a little faster now in the bass. Not that it was slugging along before just a slightly more coherent realistic sound. I still think sub arrays are worthwhile but I'm learning it probably depends on your speakers and especially your amp. You really NEED an amp that can deliver large amounts of CURRENT in order to get the bass right. The verdict is still out though - I may start using the sub array again.

sbayne

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The latest change I've made is to incorporate a Tombo Audio resonator into my system. I use LOTS of resonators. Some of them I've made myself and some from Synergistic Research. The Tombo Audio works very well in the midrange region especially on vocals. Vocals are slightly more rounded yet direct sounding. Like you would hear in real life.

sbayne

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I'm now using a Border Patrol DAC that is R2R non-oversampling. It has a tube rectified power supply, choke input and Jupiter caps. The sound is very natural and pure with a very large sound stage. 

sbayne

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Here is the review I sent to Aria Audio regarding their amazing Signature MK2 amp: 
"The Aria Signature MK2 power amp is gorgeous! The contrast of the large blue meters with the slight gold finish is very classy. The build quality is obviously top-notch. Even though its capable of 100 watts into Class A its amazing this amp never gets too hot-to-touch. I let it play for a couple of weeks and checked the sound quality everyday,  It immediately sounded very nice but as time went on the bass extended deeper and the highs opened-up a little more. Now with over 200 hours on the amp the bass is truly authoritative and the midrange/treble smooth as silk. Details in the music are excellent but never edgy or analytical. The area the amp really excels in, however, is soundstaging. The layering of sound is eerie. There are sound images playing in-front, between, behind and to the side of the speakers. My 6 feet tall speakers literally disappear with this amp! I have no idea how you can sell it for $1,450. Wow!!"

sbayne

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The Townshend Audio Allegri passive preamp is autoformer based. It gives you vivid transparency but with excellent dynamics and not a hint of harshness. I've used passives in the past but nothing as good as this.

sbayne

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I've got some major changes in my system that I've been working on. Not the least of which is going to a Autoformer based preamp. Wow!

sbayne

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I've been messing with the location of resonators in my system. Ted Denney recently suggested I lower the Vibratron from where I had it higher up on the wall. I finally settled with it on top of my preamp! It's really brought a lushness to the lower midrange and upper bass region. Amazing what resonators can do!

sbayne

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Audio reviewer Steven Lefkowicz suggested I use a laser ruler to get my chair placement, speaker distance and toe-in exactly symmetrical. I'm now at 35 degrees toe-in, my listening chair is 10.5 feet from the speakers, the speakers are 10.5 feet a part, the front wall is 4 feet behind the speakers and my listening chair is 4 feet from the back wall. This is moved the soundstage slightly to the right so it is exactly centered (it seemed like it was before but now its clearly spot-on) and added these precise measurements added more depth to the sound.  This is a cheap and very easy tweek that I'm sure will help many systems.

sbayne

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I've been messing with speaker toe-in and listening chair placement. I did this when I originally set-up my system but thought I'd check it again. I'm now a little farther from the speakers and have them just slightly toed-in. Splitting hairs but just a little more natural sound. I'm going to live with it for a while and then check it again.

sbayne

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I've been in watts v. current wars with a number of people on other forums. They literally have no idea how a speaker is powered. It's current that drives the cones not watts!! Loudness has very little do with sound quality! It seems audiophiles are kind of stupid...sorry to say that...but....

sbayne

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I had some time so I made some interconnects for my subs so they would match the rest of my system. I use GR Research's ideas on cable design (multi-strand, open air with cotton). I was a little surprised but it added more texture and refinement to the lower mids and bass.

sbayne

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Based on the strong recommendation from the talk in the Forums I've added 2 Puron AC line conditioners to my system. They are in the same outlet as my Puritan 156. They are rather remarkable. They've opened the soundstage, made vocals more real and revealed more texture plus impact to the bass. Very high value products!

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I've added a Stein H2 harmonizer system. I went with one in each of corner of the room with a Stein stone at each and a Stein diamond on the ceiling in the center of the room. They work exactly like advertised and as described in the reviews. Layers and layers of depth with each vocalist/instrument in their own separate but integrated spaces.

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I've revamped my digital front end by going to an Innuos PULSE streamer and Network Acoustics Muon system directly to my DAC. Previously, I was running a ZENmini MK3 into an Audio-GD DI-20HE digital interface and an XLR digital cable to the DAC. After getting the PULSE, and doing extensive listening, the sound is slightly better without the DI-20HE and with the Muon system feeding the DAC directly with its included Muon USB cable.

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I've added a couple more Synergistic Research FEQ X4 and and Atmosphere XL4 to my system. People are selling them to move up to the carbon series. Interestingly, the soundstage really hasn't changed that much but the overall presentation of the music has relaxed yet the detail and very low bass information has increased.

sbayne

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I'd been reading that the Puritan PSM156 Studio Master power conditioner is very susceptible to power cord upgrades. I knew that Puritan offered different grades of power cords but I guess it slipped my mind. So, I made a 20 amp cord based on the GR Research formula I've been using. I've never heard my system go through so many gyrations in sound! It sounded terrible for a couple days (I almost took it out), then very good, took a couple steps back and then slowly started to open-up and solidify. At about 150 hours its fully bloomed. I can't under state how important good AC power is to the sound quality your your system.

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I've updated my system component listings.

sbayne

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I had a good audiophile friend over last night and we listened to the Audio-GD R-7HE for about an hour. He is a BIG analog guy - his analog rig is over $50K. He has chastised me for getting rid of my analog system and albums. He said the Audio-GD is at least "listenable"  Haha, thats pretty high praise coming from him!

sbayne

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I've now been running the Audio-GD R-7HE MK2 DAC 24/7 for a week. I've listened to it everyday along the way. Like in all audio equipment good power supplies need a lot of run time to sound their best. It was great straight out the box but its now over-the-top good. It's also very susceptible to different power cords. Every change being easily heard.

sbayne

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Thanks milpai! I use this as my personal blog to document the changes I've made in my system over the years. I've gone through a lot of gear and I haven't put every step of the way in here. As to DACs, I've found my strong previous is for non-oversampling (NOS) R2R ladder DACs. And, like most gear, that have robust power supplies. 

Back 5 or 6 years ago, I had a friend (who as now dropped out of high-end audio) who owned a very expensive DCS stack and I listened to it fairly extensively. It was excellent but its just not as natural sounding as a good NOS in my opinion. Same with PS Audio but I have not heard their latest offerings/software upgrades. I've owned older models of Esoteric and Wavelength DACs and, at the time, my analog rig walked all over them. As to analog, I was really into idler turntables for many years having owned various Garrard 301 and Thorens TD-124. 

I've owned a number of cheaper NOS and TDA1541A DACs from Chinese companies including a couple from MHDT Labs. They are excellent for the money. I've heard the Denafrip Ares II and it also seemed to be very good for the money. I had an Auralic for awhile and it sounded great but eventually got fatiguing sound-wise. So, I bought an Audio GD R8 NOS DAC, without hearing it first, and it was the best DAC I'd ever had in my system. Next, I made the mistake of buying a Denafrip Pontus II thinking it would be better than the R8  - I was wrong. The Pontus II sounded very analytical and dry to me (I realize its gotten great reviews). I bought it used and the seller very graciously let me return it to him. 

I recently got a great deal on the Audio-GD R-7HE MK2 otherwise I would have stayed with the R8. I have not heard the most recent Denafrips Terminator II or the HoloAudio DACs - its rather "hard keeping up with the Jones" - I assume the Stereophile review is correct. 

So, thats my digital journey so far - thanks for checking in.

sbayne

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I've now added the Audio-GD R-7HE MK2 DAC. It's non-oversampling and has its own built-in regenerative power supply. Huge amounts of air around the instruments/voices with rock solid images and soundstage. Absolutely no harshness and the transparency is excellent. Easily the best digital I've owned and possibly ever heard. I've owned and heard many excellent digital sources over the years including DCS, Denafrip, Auralic, Esoteric, Wavelength and MHDT Labs.

sbayne

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I've taken the Bluetti out of my system. The Puritan PSM156 with an upgraded power cord and proper grounding has really made it not necessary.

sbayne

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I've also added a Puritan PSM156 Studio Master mains purifier to my system. It works very well. To the point where I'm not sure the Bluetti battery power is even needed. The key is to properly ground the Puritan. The jury is still out.

sbayne

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Thanks David. I've also started using large wool dryer balls for vibration control under my equipment and speakers. The idea came from Ginko Audio that is using something similar in their new products. I was shocked by how well they work. They make the midrange more open yet the bass is a little more solid. Ginko Audio sells bases for theirs. I've tried Vibrapods under mine since they have a center concave that holds the wool ball very nicely. Not sure though if I'll keep the Vibrapods under them since they may not be needed. I need to mess with them more.

sbayne

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I've now gone to DIY speaker, interconnects and power cables. They use multi-strand copper, an open weave, cotton cord in the center and ERS cloth at both ends. It's the formula Danny Richie uses for his cables. They have an open, airy yet very solid sound. The key is to break them in for hundreds of hours and use them as a "full loom" throughout your system.

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I’ve been working on modifying speaker cables and interconnects.  It seems lowering the EMI/RF riding on the cable is the key. The off-grid battery I use started me down this path because of the huge sonic gains it provides in reducing EMI/RF.  There are lots of cable designs and materials to try out.

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I don't know why I even bother with the Audiogon Forums. There are some people on there who are truly nuts. All the way from saying the US isn't on AC power to talking about 800lb flywheel UPS systems which apparently can turn into a bomb if not implemented correctly. They literally write paragraph after paragraph and seem totally serious - there is some type of psychosis going on.

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Seems like the Bluetti thread is back on track. We think the main offender has been banned. We will see - he may have just been restricted for a while.

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I started a thread here on Audiogon about going off the grid and how impressed I am with the Bluetti AC200MAX. As what normally happens it quickly turned into childish bickering. I tried to broker a truce but they just keep going at each other - totally killing any meaningful conversation. So frustrating.

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The Bluetti AC200MAX is working out extremely well. It handles my system like it is nothing. The cooling fans have not kicked on even once which is important. I threw some very loud bass heavy music at it and there was no problem.  The sound comes from a completely black background and the soundstage is huge and natural.

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I purchased the Bluetti 200MAX

  • 2,200W AC Pure Sine Wave Inverter (4,800W Surge)
  • 2,048Wh Capacity
  • LiFePO4 Battery with 3,500+ Life Cycles to 80%

Reviews show the fan, if it comes on, is very quiet and it has heat sinks so hopefully it will be ok in my listening room. My equipment will be drawing about 500 watts so the load shouldn't be too bad. I'll report back on how it works out. 

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Brain fart on the ACSS interconnects. I bought the "mini" size which is wrong and now another audiophile has pointed-out my preamp doesn't even support ACSS! Total stupidity on my part. Urgh!

sbayne

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I'm going to try Audio GD's ACSS connections between the R8, HE1 and the 3A. I decided on The Reference by Robertson Audio. The cables are 24AWG 99.99% solid core pure silver. Most "silver" cables are actually silver-plated and can sound fairly bright. According to the reviews, these Robertson cables are extremely natural yet with extreme resolution and soundstage. I have high hopes for these. I should have them in a couple weeks.

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Eric Alexander makes very high value Tekton speakers by using well known physics and science. He uses large band tweeters in an array that are wired in and out of phase to reproduce the midrange frequencies. He realized they will respond faster and sound more realistic in this configuration. He took that idea to another level by producing a double tweeter array wired in series which produced an even more realistic sound. For best sound quality, he has always recommended a 4 ohm speaker over an 8 ohm speaker. Now, he is going the next step and is starting to produce 2 ohm speakers because he knows scientifically that will allow the drivers to receive more current which, again, allows the speaker to sound more real.  All of this is no problem if you have the proper amplifier. The OUTPUT TRANSFORMERS must be able to handle these loads. The wattage doesn't matter because the sensitivity of these speakers is very high - you will get enough volume, it just won't sound the best. The other "solution" is to use a Class D amplifier since the new designs really don't care what the impedance of the speaker is. This is a hard concept for people to accept but Eric is using very well understood science to produce some excellent speakers.

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The DI-20HE and R8 have been playing for 9 days straight, so over 200 hours. The sound is now "reach out and touch it" real. I think it's the lower midrange that has changed the most. There is a solidity to the sound that wasn't there before. The very low bass seems faster, not necessarily lower, but hits with more authority and moves on. The upper frequencies are just a touch more rounded but with a little more micro-detail (I didn't know that was even possible since it seems like a contradiction) This is a very real, refined sound. The regenerative power supply in the DI-20HE probably plays a big role in this. Kingwa has been "upgrading" pretty much all of his preamps and DACS with his regenerative power supply. My HE-1 preamp already has one so I may have to explore one of his regenerative DACs next.

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People really don’t seem to understand how their stereos work. There is a guy I’ve encountered (who designs and builds amplifiers!) who seems to think if sensitivity is high then low impedance speakers are simply a waste.  He totally disregards Ohms Law that the flow of electricity to a speaker is HIGHER with lower impedances. I guess he believes if the speaker makes high decibels at 1 meter with 1 watt then you are good to go. Another guy even told me Ohms Law has nothing to do with speakers because the audio signal is not electrical!! I didn’t have the heart to tell him this understanding of electrical science has been around for a 100 years!  It’s no wonder “new” science like quantum mechanics and it’s effect on sound is “snake oil” to these people.  Oh well....

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It took me awhile to get the DI-20HE going.  I was using a RCA coax into the R8 DAC and outputting XLR balanced from the R8. Well, duh, the R8 doesn’t convert the signal!! After I realized what the problem was the sound was really nice but not amazing. I’m going to let it play for 4 or 5 days before serious listening or judgment.  I think it needs to open-up and settle.

sbayne

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I'm adding Audio GD's DI-20HE that has its own regenerative  Class A balanced power supplies for the digital interface. Should be interesting.

sbayne

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I went ahead and got the Audio GD Master 3A. It’s a 50 watt pure class A amp with massive power supplies and transformers. 80lbs worth. The sound is lush and real. Now fully understanding why people love these type of amps.

sbayne

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Pictures of the new system are now posted. I've decided to go with 30 watt Class A mono-blocks for the time being. The new Audio-GD vacuum tube HE-1 preamp is fully balanced with regenerative power supplies. Very seductive yet authoritative sound with the Moabs.

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I've made some fairly significant changes to my system. The biggest change is going to a balanced tube preamp and a different GaN amp. Everything is still breaking-in and I'm making some rack/configuration changes. I'll post pics and a write-up once everything is settled.

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A guy on Facebook in the Tekton group was trying to tell me an output transformer in an amp has nothing to do with impedance matching. I cited him an article I found literally within 30 seconds and he still denied it.....Haha. I truly don't know why I even get into those types of debates anymore.

sbayne

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Another one I'm saving:

This is a very relevant discussion since many folks are driving their Tektons with low power tube amps and low power solid state amps - if you do this you better be certain the transformers on your amp are more than capable of driving a 4 ohm load or your SOUND QUALITY will suffer. An amp's output transformer is nothing more than an impedance matching device with the reflected load coming off the speakers so it must be able to handle the various swings in impedance. Since Erik's speakers are high sensitivity (usually over 95db) you will get adequate sound coming out of the speakers but that tells you nothing about sound quality - it just tells you how loud it is in your room. As Erik's demonstration in the video shows a 4 ohm load produces less noise and is the "modern" way to make a speaker especially with high sensitivity - just make sure your amp is up to the task - and don't rely on the old phrase "it plays loud enough for me" unless loudness is all you care about.

sbayne

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I have moved up the line of Audio-GD DACs. I now have the R8 MK2. Its mind-blowing how good these DACs are for the price. Extreme build quality.

sbayne

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On another forum, I recently had a guy go nuts about me using a "cheap Class D amp" to power my system and also claimed there is no way I'm getting the best sound without using a preamp. I'm going to post my reply here so I can find it easily in the future: 

"I guess I should be flattered you have so much concern about my system but I don't have to justify what I use to you or anyone else. I will say I've LOTS of amps over the years including high-end solid-state (Pass, Krell and many others) and tube (Shindo, Cary and many others). I've also owed Tri-Path, Hypex Ncore and Purifi Class D amps. This cheap little GaN amp is the best I've heard. The higher end GaN amps use better power supplies and I will probably upgrade to one in the future. As to using no preamp, I don't need the gain, my system is very dynamic without one and its quiet at idle (which is not always true with many preamps). There is no reason to add another piece of equipment and cables when I don't need it." 

sbayne

Owner
The new cabling from Network Acoustics and Synergistic Research are simply amazing. Musicians have taken on a "wholeness" with subtle details completely surrounding them in the soundstage. All of this with a NOS DAC and 44.1 resolution. Just more evidence that how we treat the audio signal and acoustics are the most important parts of stereo playback since amps and sources have gotten so good.

sbayne

Owner
I've recently gone to Synergistic Research Atmosphere X Euphoria cabling with the Gold (Galileo SX) tuning bullets. Very natural sounding with a huge soundstage. I now have more money into my cabling, acoustic treatments and signal enhancements than I do my speakers and components! But I can confidentially say my system has never sounded better!

sbayne

Owner
72 hours and the Muon system is incredible!!! Walk through 3D realism! Wow!

sbayne

Owner
In a few days, I should have Network Acoustics' new Muon filter/cabling and Synergistic Research's gold tuning modules in my system. The next couple of weeks are going to be interesting.....

sbayne

Owner
My biggest upgrade is to my digital source. I'm now have an Innuos ZENMini Mk3 with LPSU. It uses Innuos proprietary OS and streaming software called SENSE. It provides super quick access and excellent sound quality. 

The DAC is now an Audio-GD R2R-1which is Non-Oversampling/ladder based. The power supply is overbuilt for a DAC. With about 150 hours on it the sound is really starting to bloom - very, very nice. 

sbayne

Owner
My new amp is the Premium Audio Mini Gan 5 which uses Gallium Nitride modules for 200 w/ch. It's truly one of the best amps I've ever owned and is definitely the way for future amp design.

sbayne

Owner
I'm doing my annual re-vamping of my system. I have a number of new-to-me components that came from their previous owners not fully broken-in. I never understand why you sell something before its reached its full potential. I'm going to let them run, try some different cables and different positioning in my rack. Things, however, are sounding very good already!

sbayne

Owner
ricmech23 - I really like the FOZ SS-X. The Jim Fosgate speaker crosstalk circuit really works well. I've changed my system around recently and ended-up selling it, however. It was adding too much gain to my system. I tried some gain attenuators but it didn't help. I'll be posting the updates to my system in the next couple weeks.

sbayne

Owner
I've added QSA fuses to all my components. They are excellent straight out of the box but I used some PPT Total Contact on them which add another level of realism. I'm going to keep messing with the QSA products.

sbayne

Owner
Someone was asking about my sub setup with the Moabs so I thought I'd post my response here as well:    I run 4 subs in a distributed bass array or "swarm".  I get excellent bass because the subs are asymmetric to each other and one pair is run out-of-phase - much like Eric does with his woofers and arrays. The Synergistic Research Black Box works as a bass resonator and in-tandem with the distributed array. With my Purifi amp the Moabs are very good to about 40Hz so I crossover at that point. The crossover should be set by ear since its very dependent on your amp.

sbayne

Owner
Hi Chuck - No, I'm in North Carolina. I was trying to workout going to your place while Krissy is there but it isn't going to happen. I need to contact her. If you are ever in my area let me know.

sbayne

Owner
I've been reading about the new QSA fuses that a number of StereoTimes reviewers are raving about. They seem to be the best fuses currently available but, of course, the ones with the greatest effect are VERY expensive - running thousands of dollars for just one fuse. When I saw QSA is selling "stones" with similar technology, but for a fraction of the price, I decided to try some. I placed one in my fuse box that feeds my listening room and one on the top of my amp. Well.......they are amazing! More to come.

sbayne

Owner
I added pictures of the FOZ SS-X and the SR Grounding Block. Had lots of positive responses on the Tekton forum about the FOZ. I guess a lot of people have been using one. I had no idea.

sbayne

Owner
I added a Black Ice (Jolida) - Foz SS-X to the system. The thing has a cult following and after talking to a couple owners I decided to try one out. Its a tube buffer, a Jim Fosgate patented speaker crosstalk circuit and a bass enhancer that adds up to 9db of output. The sound it produces with the Moabs is amazing! I also added a very cheap CD transport to the system. The Acoustic Zen digital cable I use with it cost more than the transport! Overall, the sound is pretty good and it lets me play some of my more rare CDs I still have. 

sbayne

Owner
Add pictures of the current system showing the turntable and turntable stand.

sbayne

Owner
Over the years I've owned some high-end turntables (Shindo, Garrard 301, Thorens TD-124 etc) and consequently built-up a very nice vinyl collection which I still have. A local audiophile was selling a very low cost Pro-Ject RPM-1 Carbon with an Ortofon Red cartridge so I went ahead and bought it just to have analog available. After getting it home, I was underwhelmed - it sounded like low quality digital. But it was dead quiet and the bass was fairly good. I added MagicHexa footers, Herbies' grungebuster dots under the motor, a Herbies' turntable mat and most importantly I did away with the ground cable and used PS Audio Transcendent silver cables. Holy cow! I'm shocked by the improvement these tweeks brought to this budget analog system! The soundstage is wide open, the highs just float and the bass is even more tight, authoritative. I'll keep listening but as this point its kind of remarkable.

sbayne

Owner
I added some Nobsound spring-based footers under my amp and preamp. These are very cheap - especially as compared to the Townshend footers that are much higher quality but are also based on floating your components with springs. Unfortunately, they add a slight glare or sibilance that I just can't listen past. I think they are making the cases of the equipment ring. I went down to just one spring in each footer which sounded slightly better but the whole thing became unstable. So, I moved them to my subwoofers and used 3 springs. On first listen, I think they sound much better there - maybe because of the added weight of the subs pushing down on the springs and the cabinets not ringing? I'll keep messing around with these before "springing"(haha) for the Townshend footers.

sbayne

Owner
Based on a number of recommendations I purchased a set of Townshend Audio Seismic Isolation Podiums for my Tekton Moabs. They decouple and "float" the speakers on a spring-loaded metal base. It opens-up the sound and adds solidity to the bass but doesn't make the sound harsh like most most metal speaker bases. Pictures added.

sbayne

Owner
I went ahead and added a complete Synergistic Research ART acoustic system. It's based on resonators and even though its SR's "old" acoustic system it integrates very well and compliments the overall sound that you can achieve with their current UEF acoustic items. Synergistic Research realizes this, of course, and is re-releasing the Vibratron which is the large multi-resonator in the middle/upper part of the wall between the speakers. Pictures added.

sbayne

Owner
ksnel331 - The tweeters are the Satori TW29B-B. It fits the opening exactly and comes in 4 ohm which is what I needed. It uses a regular ferrite magnet and costs less than the TW29BN-B which uses a neodymium magnet. You can even get a silver flange on these but I decided against that. Madisound is the US distributor for Satori but if you want to take a chance I've seen them on EBay at a decent discount. I wouldn't say the upgrade was "easy".  I had to do a little cutting to get the terminals to fit and redrill the screw holes. Also, you really should solder the wire back into place. The main problem is getting the old tweeter out without chipping the paint so you have to take your time. Thanks for checking out my system and good luck with the tweeter upgrade if you decide to do it.

sbayne

Owner
Thanks b_limo - I do have a lot of "voodoo" going on! haha If you are ever in the North Carolina area let me know. You can stop by for a listen.

sbayne

Owner
I now use 3 different Atmospheres in my system. The original Atmosphere, FEQ x4 and the Mini x4 so that I have complete coverage of the room. It's a lot like what SR is doing with their Infinity setups. I use Red ATMs. The sound is HUGE. I've updated the system pics.

sbayne

Owner
I installed beryllium Sartori TW29B-B tweeters in the Moabs. As far as I can tell its the same tweeter that Tekton uses for it's upgrades. It was pretty much a direct fit. It adds micro detail and open-ups the soundstage but it's not harsh. In fact, I think it's smoother than the tweeter it replaced. Well worth the expense and effort.

sbayne

Owner
I finally finished making my own "high definition" grounding cables for my Synergistic Research Grounding block. Very nice improvement across the board in micro-detail. The biggest improvement (this was a surprise) is when I grounded the chassis of the Powercell 12 UEF!

sbayne

Owner
The last piece of the overhaul (for awhile at least) is the Synergistic Research Powercell 12 UEF. It's obviously UEF based and uses EM in its conditioning. The sound is immediate and clear yet delicate and settle. It's a study in contrasts at this level of stereo performance. Amazing, sit and listen for hours type of sound.

sbayne

Owner
I've also gradually moved to a full-loom of Synergistic Research Foundation power cables, interconnects and speaker cables. I was using very high value Western Electric cables before but, as should be expected, the Synergistic Research are a clear step up - especially in the quality of the bass.

sbayne

Owner
Massive overhaul of my system. I changed pretty much everything except for the Moabs. The biggest change was to my amp. I had an excellent Melody AN845 integrated that gave glorious sound but I wanted to at least try the new Purifi amp modules. I ended up with the Apollon which has dual power supplies and the Sparkos Pro input buffer. WOW - everything that people have said about these amps is true! Absolute control of the bass, the mids are clear/very realistic, the highs are never hot, they just sound natural and the soundstage is huge. I hated to see it go but I sold the Melody.

The next big change was to my preamp, DAC, streamer. Previously, I had a LUMIN D2 which was excellent. I wanted to try dual powered subs with the Moabs so I needed something like the NAD C 658 that gives you total control over your subs and includes an excellent streamer and DAC. 

The subs I added are Earthquake SuperNova MKIVs. I only use them at 30Hz and below which they are excellent for. Really fills-out the bottom end with the Moabs plus they are easy to find on the used market and are reasonably priced.

Finally, based on my reading and understanding about EM in our stereo systems, I went ahead and purchased an ADD-Powr Wizard which actually adds EM to the AC. Bottom-line it works very well by making the music sound more natural. Something you have to hear to completely appreciate. 

sbayne

Owner
Like I've discussed many times before the key to getting good sound is to manipulate the power feeding our system and the audio signal itself. Science shows electronic signals (which obviously include audio and power) are affected by electromagnetic fields (EM). If we manipulate EM (by either adding or subtracting it) in our systems we can getter better sound. Ever since alternating current was adopted as the choice for power distribution we have manipulated EM in transformers, phono cartridges and, of course, speakers via their magnets or powered field coils. For the last 10 years or more companies have been manipulating specific types of EM to make stereo systems sound better. Here is a list of companies I know do this: Nordost, Furutech, High Fidelity, Synergistic Research, Kemp Electronics, Shunyata Research, Virtual Dynamics, Akiko Audio, Audio Magic, Audioquest, Acoustic Revive, ADD-Powr, Bybee and Perfect Path Technologies. They are many different techniques to manipulate EM such as using normal magnets, magnets painted with graphene, crystals, schumann resonance generators (which are nothing more than low-frequency EM fields) and active circuits. Old-school electrical engineers, who claim to be audiophiles, don't seem to understand this, or admit it's possible, even when it's explained to them. Oh well, it's their loss for being closed-minded, stubborn and arrogant.

sbayne

Owner
Working on some fairly major updates and changes. It's a grand experiment but so far so good.

sbayne

Owner
The previous post had a strange light font. Weird. I have no idea what that’s all about.  Whatever.

sbayne

Owner
After reading a lot of comments about placement, I decided to put the Tranquility Pod over the very back of the Lumin D2 so that it covers the back-panel connections. I also added some ECTs inside the D2. After a few days, the sound became very, very natural yet even more dynamic. I also added a pure copper grounding cable to the Tranquility Pod which goes directly into the Grounding Block.  That did it - the level of realism is startling!  

sbayne

Owner
I found some good deals on a used Synergistic Research ground box and Tranquility Pod. I built my own "high-def" cables for the grounding box. I must say it works very well. Absolute blackness between the notes and the detail is better without sounding harsh. The Tranquility Pod I'm not so sure about. It really hasn't made much a difference in the sound I'm getting. Granted, I have Tranquility Bases under all my equipment and multiple layers of Perfect Path pads. I'm going to keep messing with it though and let it sit longer in a specific location before moving it.

sbayne

Owner
Snuck in a short listening session today. Hard to believe a fuse could make such a big difference in sound. Also guessing the Lumin wasn’t fully broken in when I got it.  Whatever the case may be its the best sound I’ve had in my system so far!

sbayne

Owner
Music is just exploding out of this setup! The Lumin D2 with the Synergistic Research Fuse/ECTs, Supra LAN cables and Perfect Path E-mats/E-Cards is getting to the point of REAL! This combo has over 100 hours on it - going to let them play another 48 hours and revaluate.

sbayne

Owner
I've switched the BlueSound NODE 2i out for a Lumin D2. I'll be adding a Synergistic Research Orange fuse to it. Already, the sound is bigger, more layered and open. Things have calmed down on the crazy rectifier switching - I've settled on a NOS RCA. Very extended and smooth.

sbayne

Owner
I bought a set of fairly expensive "used" rectifier tubes that supposedly had about 100 hours on them. There is absolutely no way these tubes have that amount of hours. They sounded weak & thin for about the first 30 hours - then they just bloomed. I guess people buy stuff, expect to be blown away immediately and when they aren't they sell it. Thats a "good" thing for those of us who buy used gear but then again its sort of sad. The same thing happens with sports cars, high-end watches and other luxury goods. So, whatever, but I'm still amazed people don't take more time with stuff even if they have money to blow. Just shows we are an instant gratification society.

sbayne

Owner
I'm now trying different rectifiers from the 5U4 family. The Melody AN845 lets you hear every little change. I've also added a SOtM iSO-CAT6 isolator & Supra Cat 8+ ethernet cable to my BlueSound Node2i which has taken it up a step or two in sound quality.

sbayne

Owner
I've got about 125 hours on the Melody AN845. I'm gobsmacked by this amp. It's only 22 watts but it has complete control over the Moabs drivers. When the music calls for slam its there instantly but when its soft and delicate the music just floats. I'm sure it's mostly because of the massive transformers. Looking back on all the excellent amps I've had (Shindo, Quicksilver, Cary, Bel Canto, Deja Vu, TRL, Odyssey to name a few) they never had this HUGE of transformers like the Melody has. The SET 845 tubes are also a factor but I'm betting the overall sound would be similar with most single ended triodes if these transformers were used in the design.

sbayne

Owner
Well it’s happened again. This used amp I just bought wasn’t fully broken-in!  At about 75 hours it transformed into a jaw dropper. Easily the best amp I’ve owned and possibly have ever heard. The interaction between the musicians and the music being made sounds real. The transformers are huge and these 845 tubes are way over built. They both need plenty of time to fully settle-in. I plan to put at least another 48 hours on them before saying they are done cooking.

sbayne

Owner
Thanks David. I use this as my stereo diary, blog or whatever. Basically so I can go back and look on specific dates what equipment I had and my thinking at the time. I know people read it because the number of views continues to go up and I do get the occasional comment here or a private message about a piece of equipment I've owned. Glad Audiogon provides the space for us to do this.

sbayne

Owner
I finally finished this "rebuild" of my system. It was a lot of work and took a lot of patience but it was REALLY worth it. The sound is huge and sweet. Very clear and authoritative but never harsh. Just got done with a 2 hour listening session. Big tubes and big speakers go hand and hand!

sbayne

Owner
Why the f did I go back to tubes??? Got the Melody AN 845 and one of the tubes is bad and I don't have a replacement tube on hand. Another week of waiting. Arrggghhh.......

sbayne

Owner
I'm picking-up a Melody AN 845 this weekend. It's a very high quality 90lb integrated thats based on the 845 tube. 22 watts of Class A SET power. The seller is including a pair of Elrog 845s. I'm expecting big sweet sound with my Moabs.....

sbayne

Owner
There have been some major developments on the amplifier side. For a number of reasons I won't go into publicly I have to go in a different direction. I am staying with tubes, however. I also un-expectantly (didn't think I'd do it) sold the Thorens TD-124. So I'm back to my Pro-Ject Extension 10 with Sumiko Blackbird cartridge which is also an excellent performer.

sbayne

Owner
I've now added pictures of all the new equipment. Everything is sounding great! Going to let it cook for awhile.

sbayne

Owner
Audiogon just gave me an Application Error and duplicated the post below. As you can see two posts were placed in the log on the exact same date and time.  Weird. (I've now edited it)

sbayne

Owner
The Erhard Basie arrives tomorrow! I've gotten updates and pictures from Holger throughout the process. I'll need to break-in the Lundahl OPT’s and Mundorf EVO Oil caps. I also have a quad of Sophia Electric blue EL-34s that will need some time to settle. The Thorens TD-124 is ready and I've picked-up a Bluesound Node 2i for streaming with a Sophia Electric Magik which is now fully broken-in (the transformation of that thing over the last few days has been staggering) Can't wait.........

sbayne

Owner
I recently purchased a used piece of gear that has some very high quality transformers in it. Its gotten rave reviews but each reviewer said it needs at least 100 hours of break-in time to sound its best. I am now the third owner of this item and its very evident it has not been broken-in! It's a little rough around the edges and spitty. I've been playing it for 24 hours straight and it already sounds much better. I've mentioned this before but many people seem to ignore the advice of breaking-in a piece of high end stereo equipment. Even if you think the whole idea of break-in is hogwash wouldn't you let it play for awhile before deciding to sell it? It's like they listen to it for a few hours (or minutes), don't like it and then sell it. Amazing.

sbayne

Owner
While I've been waiting for my Erhard Basie to be built I've been messing with my analog rig. I have a number of different SUTs left over from my Shindo days. Even though the Ortofon Blue is a MM I really like the sound with a SUT before the phono stage. You would think there would be way too much gain but there really isn't.  I'm truly surprised by this. It even sounds good going directly into the Yamaha's phono stage with a SUT. The Ed Padden tube phono stage I've been using is just a little smoother but also likes a SUT. I'll have to check this all out again once the Basie gets here since it also has its own phono stage. Plus, I've placed some PPT mats under the Thorens, which I thought would be a big no,no, but that also seems to be ok. Hmmm.....

sbayne

Owner
The Thorens TD-124 is obviously idler based and when it's coupled with Wayne's Outer Ring/Mat it makes for a very solid sound. The instruments and voices come from a completely black background and the sound is formed throughout the room. It's something digital still can't do as well. Listening to records is sort of a hassle but it does make you slow down - to enjoy the process and the music.

sbayne

Owner
I got the Ortofon Blue mounted and calibrated on the Thorens TD-124. It's sounding extremely good. I've been trying an outer ring by Wayne's Audio and have been communicating with Wayne. He is sending me a mat to try as well. The Audio Sensibility cable shipped yesterday after being broken-in on their Cable Cooker. It's really hard to break-in phono cables since you can't put records on a continuous loop! The Basie integrated should be here in a few weeks. And I've reorganized my stereo stands. This is exciting for me!!

sbayne

Owner
millercarbon, thanks! Yeah, I need to do some more work with the E-Mats. I'll probably do what you suggest by wrapping the wires. I already have E-Cards inside the cabinets on the center tweeter (the one thats actually being used as a tweeter). I am getting very deep, liquid sound as you say. I've been listening to a lot more analog recently and its spooky good.

sbayne

Owner
I've been doing a lot of reading about cartridges and phono cables looking for the best values out there. I'll be placing orders for an Ortofon Blue cartridge and Audio Sensibility copper phono cable. Sometimes you just have to take a chance especially when it comes to cartridges since getting one, setting it up properly and going through listening sessions before purchase really isn't possible or practical.  That is one area where reviews really help. As to phono cables, I've never had grounding problems in my system so I've been able to use any interconnect I want with my turntables, even unshielded ones. But I think its time to get a proper phono cable especially since I'm switching cartridges and going to a different turntable.

sbayne

Owner
Last night, I switched out the Pro-Ject Xtension 10 for the Thorens TD-124 I also have. Based on reputation alone the Thorens should walk all over the Pro-Ject. I've been using the Pro-Ject because of the excellent Sumiko Blackbird cartridge it has. Swapping turntables and cartridges is a major hassle and not something I enjoy. It's probably because of my OCD - if everything isn't just right it drives me crazy. Anyway, I'm going to leave the Thorens in the system for awhile. The bass is more defined (especially with the Moabs) than with the Pro-ject. I'm going to be looking for a better cartridge for the Thorens to help with the upper midrange and lower treble.

sbayne

Owner
After much discussion and going back/forth about tube amps I placed an order for a Basie integrated in natural cherry by Erhard Audio. I upgraded it with Lundahl OPTs wound specifically for 4 ohm speakers, Rhodium speaker binding posts and Mundorf EVO oil caps. We discussed other caps but they wouldn't fit in the case that Holger uses for this integrated. Build time is about 4 weeks. 

My only qualm is the Basie only puts out 40 watts/channel. I think that will be sufficient for the Moab's bottom-end. If it doesn't work-out I can always sell it. It's one of the highest value custom-made tube amps on the market. Fingers crossed.

sbayne

Owner
I've sold a lot of equipment lately. I hooked my Fisher 800c up to the Moabs and really liked the sound! Over a month ago, I agreed to sell the Fisher to someone I've known for awhile but I think I may get back into tubes. Not flea-watt but something with balls. The Fisher puts out 35w/ch. I'm thinking the Moabs would really like 60-80 tube watts/ch. A big ass amp for big ass speakers! Possibly KT-120s......not sure yet.

sbayne

Owner
I added another set of clarifiers, this time to the amp end, so now there is a set at the amp and the speakers. The Moabs took a jump sonically when I did that. I had tried it with the Impact Monitors as well and I felt it degraded the sound slightly. I'm guessing it has something to do with the impedance changes of using 2 pairs of 4 ohm speakers (when I had the Impact Monitors) v. this one large pair of Moab 4 ohm speakers. This Yamaha amp is really quite amazing. It takes whatever I throw at it without a hiccup and is sonically able to tell me every little change I make.

sbayne

Owner
Even though the Moabs I purchased were used at an audio show and by a previous owner I decided to run them in for awhile. I'm glad I did. At the 72 hour point they really opened up! I'm going to let them go a few days more. Amazing these weren't broken-in. I'm kind of shocked!

sbayne

Owner
Hi - I've been reading about your cabling method for years but I don't think we have ever talked! I was using your method on both my CD player and Phono but I ended up selling the extra sets of cables that are required - so it's on my to do list - to wire-up your method again. I may get some of grannyring's offerings. Bill has helped me with some other stuff in the past. 

The black boxes on the Moabs cause a whole lot of angst among audiophiles. Believe me, I've learned the hard way! It's a Pulse Electron Alignment generator by Audio Magic.  (Yes, I know, any time "magic" is in a company or product name it gets the "snake oil" comments started) I also have a medium size copper bowl on top of each speaker that I use as resonators. So, yes, I'm a little "different" haha 

sbayne

Owner
Sounding very nice. The Moabs throw a big soundstage behind, in-front and to the sides of the speakers. Center-fill is excellent. They seem to sound better decoupled v. coupled. Bass is excellent, of course. Need to do an extended listening session though.

sbayne

Owner
Picked-up and got the MOABs hooked-up today. Similar to the pair of Impact Monitors with stereo subs I had. A little more coherent. Overall, very nice and excellent value!

sbayne

Owner
Sold my Rythmik subs. Phew, been a crazy few days!

sbayne

Owner
In a matter of 24 hours, I bought a pair Tekton MOABs and sold both pairs of my Impact Monitors.  It was a deal I knew I had to make a quick decision on - so I went for it.

sbayne

Owner
So, a couple hours after I posted my last comment, I get an ad from Audio Advisor about the AudioLab integrated and matching DAC/streamer. They want $1,650 for the pair which they claim is huge value. Looking at the specs the streamer uses the same DAC as my Yamaha but the integrated is only rated at 50/watts per channel! I don't know if the control app is any good but even if its stable thats still $900 more than the Yamaha plus you need to add decent power cords and a pair of interconnects!

sbayne

Owner
Read another review this weekend of a "high end" AIO (all-in-one) having problems. This one retails for $8K and had hiss coming from the speakers but, of course, the reviewer said you couldn't hear it while playing music! My Yamaha has no hiss even with the volume fully open and no music playing. A review I read a couple of weeks ago talked about how much he liked a company's AIO he was reviewing but the control app/software was not stable! Yamaha's MusicCast app has never crashed or locked-up on me. I would strongly suggest before you pay big bucks for an AIO make sure there are NO operating problems! Don't assume expensive is better!

sbayne

Owner
I updated my system pictures. The Raysonic is really coming into its own. It responds well to the PPT products!

sbayne

Owner
I've made some fairly significant changes to my system. I've added even more PPT products and a Synergistic Research Powercell 10SE MKIII.  I've also repositioned the ElectraClear EAU-1s and Kemp QA plug so they are introduced earlier in the circuit. The sound is f-ing amazing.

sbayne

Owner
Thanks @millercarbon! Yeah lots of different things going on in my system, no doubt.  The equipment I’ve gone through over the years is crazy.  I’ll be in touch.

sbayne

Owner
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sbayne

Owner
I also used a little Total Contact on the SR Orange fuse and let that bake in the system for a few days. Really remarkable how tweaking the power and the signal can make such a significant improvement.

sbayne

Owner
zipost - I checked out your systems. Wow! Those Odeons are spectacular! Also the Dynastation is super cool. Very nice. I had a pair of Altec Valencia 846a with field coil drivers running with Shindo gear for a few years so I definitely understand your liking nice Triodes! 

Anyway, yes, I run stacked Tekton Impact Monitors. I did it because I heard a pair of Ulfs and thought I could sort of replicate those by adding another pair of Eric's tweeter arrays. I run the second pair off my amp's B channel so they are getting the exact same signal and power. The subs are Rythmk servos which are fast and integrate with the arrays very well. The Tektons sound very much like a horn speaker. You get the leading edge of the note and the natural decay. The dynamics are immediate and fast - like a horn. I see you are running 2a3 amps which are about 6 watts. The Tekton Ulfs are 99db into 4 ohms so you might be able to drive them. I think you would be impressed. 

sbayne

Owner
Based on others' experiences I didn't think the Orange fuse would need much or any break-in. That was wrong. I now have at least 48 hours on the fuse and its sounding much more "organic" and refined. Looking back, it was a little too vibrant right out of the box. I'm going to let it play for a few more days but its gone way past what I expected.

sbayne

Owner
I've been listening to a lot of music during the COVID-19 "stay-at-home" order and, of course, thinking of ways to squeeze the last bit of performance out of my system without breaking the bank.  I re-read some of the forum reviews of the Synergistic Research Orange fuse. I've been very please with the Blue fuses but thought I'd try the Orange fuse. 
Wow! The reviews are right. The Orange is better in every way! Expanded soundstage, more natural presentation, more defined frequency extension, etc. Very impressive!

sbayne

Owner
I've updated the pictures of my system. It now shows the tube phono stage and the PPT E-Mats on the back of my speakers. I've also added bowl resonators to the top of the speakers. Since I'm working from home right now I spent my "lunchbreak" listening to music and decided to take some pictures!

sbayne

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Since I've been working from home because of the Corona virus scare I've been running my system for over 12 hours per day using the Ayre burn-in CD for a good chunk of it. Sat down and had a nice long listening session last night. No doubt, the soundstage is deeper and wider. I'm thinking my second pair of Tekton Impact Monitors weren't fully broken-in!

sbayne

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I've been breaking-in some new PPT products and a new phono preamp. System is sounding really big and three dimensional. I've also gotten more feedback from Yamaha R-N803 users which has all been positive. I will say be careful you are not using a Yamaha AVR which is intended for movies - its a different animal.

sbayne

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I got two "hater" private messages last night about my system (I actually think they may be the same person using two different user names. I've reported "them" to the admin) I could care less if you do or do not buy Synergistic Research, Tekton, PPT or Yamaha stuff! That's not the intent of my system page. I'm simply reporting MY experience with these products.

sbayne

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Thanks chrshanl37.  The Yamaha is a great all in one unit.  Forget that it’s a “receiver”. To me, it’s an amp, preamp, streamer, DAC, phono preamp, and tuner - controlled by an IPad - that sounds great! Plus, it’s less than $1k from a major manufacturer.  It’s got value written all over it.  Use the right cables/accessories and it’s performance is amazing!

sbayne

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bdp24 - Thanks for checking out my system! Yeah, I've read and been told a number of times about all the "problems" Tekton speakers have by using multiple tweeters and especially by stacking a pair of them!!!  Ha,ha  Problem is this set-up sounds absolutely real. Music is a big deal in my life. My average week includes at least two rehearsals and a couple of performances. My wife is a professional musician. Tonight we are attending a concert featuring tenor Limmie Pulliam. Check him out on YouTube. He is spectacular! I've literally had world-class musicians hear my system. I know these people well enough they would definitely tell me if things were out-of-whack. If you are ever near Charlotte, NC stop by for a listen!

sbayne

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I've been letting the PPT products settle for over a month now. The sound I'm getting from this Yamaha receiver and stacked Tekton monitors really is incredible.

sbayne

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I moved a number of E-Mats to the back of my speakers directly behind the Tekton array. They've only been there a few days but I can tell its already an improvement from where they were before which was under my receiver. I also placed some E-Cards between the Impact Monitor stacks and the subwoofers.

sbayne

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There is a new thread recommending you "charge" the E-Mats on your breaker box for a few days and then put them in your system. So, I switched the E-Mats from the breaker box and Yamaha. No doubt, better sound. Amazing.

sbayne

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The new PPT stuff has only been in my system for a few days but the improvement is awesome. Very, very natural.

sbayne

Owner
Krissy made it possible for me to have a whole new bevy of PPT E-Mats, E-Mats+ and E-Cards stewing in my system. I've resisted listening for the first 24 hours, but I'm sure I'll give in soon!!!!

sbayne

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This morning I was literally 4 feet away from a world class violist who was practicing his solo for a series of concerts this weekend.  As good as we think our stereo systems are they are humbled when compared against the real thing.  The power, warmth and emotion simply can’t be replicated.

sbayne

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A long listening session tonight.  Just one more click on the subs’ output and one lower click on the crossover and .......wallah!  I even brought my wife (a professional musician in to confirm it) the mid-bass and lower bass is spot-on. Lesson learned. You must listen to other systems or great live performances and adjust accordingly!!!!!! Phew!! (more work than I anticipated!)

sbayne

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So after hearing the ULFs it seemed the bass in my system wasn't in the same league as those speakers. I finally realized, I have powered subs that I can use to tailor the sound - duh !!  So, I slightly increased the sub-output and slightly changed the crossover point. I'm now much, much closer to what I heard with the ULFs. Sometimes the answer is right in-front of you!

sbayne

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I heard the ULFs yesterday. They had well over $100k of world-class electronics driving them. The sound was spectacular!  How close is my system? From the midrange on up much closer than I expected. From the lower midrange on down the ULFs go lower and have more visceral impact. Hard to know, however, if it was the $40K amp or the ULF speakers bringing that bass. The answer is obviously they both were. At this point, I'm thinking my subs are close enough to what I heard but I may change my mind later.......ha!

sbayne

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I talked to Krissy recently and decided to add PPT Stop-It duplex plugs and a few more E-Cards placed in strategic locations in my system. I've also added a pair of Audio Magic Pulsed Electron Alignment units. All of these things address Spintronics. They aren't even settled-in yet, but based on about 1/2 hour listening to familiar cuts - things are sounding VERY good!

sbayne

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As before, I'm done with the forums for awhile. Many of the proclaimed "engineers" on these boards really seem ignorant. Just for the record, quantum physics is not new and using it to improve our equipment is not a pie in the sky idea. These articles explain Spintronics and how graphene can be used with other materials such as carbon, and thin layers of magnetic materials like cobalt and nickel, to produce predictable spin behavior in electrons. From one of the articles:

"Electronics is based on the manipulation of electrons and other charge carriers, but in addition to charge, electrons possess a property known as spin. When spin is manipulated with magnetic and electric fields, the result is a spin-polarized current that carries more information than is possible with charge alone."

sbayne

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Well, for about 6 months now, I've resisted going back to the forums and reading about PPT and Tekton. As I should have known, its the same old boring spittle of the objective people demanding scientific evidence of the subjective listening experience. It really does get old. I presented the same articles I've used in the past regarding Spintronics and how graphene interacts with other materials to affect electron spin. Seems like people either can't comprehend what is said in those articles, refuse to accept it or are too lazy to even read them. I'm sure I'll be attacked personally before the "discussion" ends. To be continued....


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Just thought I'd share some interesting reading:

Spintronics

A conventional digital electronic system conveys a binary signal (think 1s and 0s) through pulses of electrons carried through a conductive wire. Spintronics can convey additional information via another characteristic of electrons, their spin direction (think up or down). Spin is related to magnetism. So spintronics uses magnetism to align electrons of a certain spin, or "inject" spin into a system.

If you've ever done the old science experiment of turning a nail into a magnet by repeatedly dragging a magnet along its length, then you've already dabbled in spintronics. The magnet transfers information to the nail. The trick is then transporting and manipulating that information, which requires devices and materials with finely tuned properties. Researchers are working toward the milestone of a spin transistor, a spintronics version of the electronic components found in practically all modern electronics. Such a device requires a semiconductor material in which a magnetic field can easily manipulate the direction of electrons' spin -- a property called spin-orbit coupling. 

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/01/190110160941.htm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spintronics

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/05/150505082944.htm

https://phys.org/news/2018-05-graphene-layered-magnetic-materials-ultrathin.html

sbayne

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Yeah, I'm going to try them horizontally, one pair on stands next to the other pair of monitors, both monitors stacked on stands (with the subs in-between or even in the corners of the room) and different wiring possibilities, etc. I'm currently crossing the subs over at 50 hz but I'm going to experiment with that crossover point too. Its all very interesting to me.

sbayne

Owner
I added pics of the new setup.

sbayne

Owner
I stayed up way too late and drank way too much last night listening to my system! I got the HFT and Black Box locations worked-out and fine tuned the subs. The lower midrange/upper bass really is fantastic with these speakers. I'm not sure what Eric has up his sleeve next but I'm guessing he is going to add yet another array to his top-of-the-line speakers and probably active subs. Its hard to deny that two arrays per channel make sense so I could see a speaker with multiple smaller arrays as a viable product as well.

sbayne

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David - I just added them to the top of the first pair of monitors. Its seems kind of crazy but in reality they are just a little taller than the Encores. They can be knocked over but I have a separate listening room, my dog is 16 years old - doesn't jump on anything (I have no cats) and all my kids are grown. Ha,ha.  I was a little concerned about driving two pairs of 4 ohm speakers but there has been no problems so far, even at high volume levels. I plan on spending a lot more time with them tonight and I'll post some pictures.

sbayne

Owner
I added another pair of Impact Monitors to my system! I run them off the B channel of my amp. They integrate perfectly. The lower midrange and upper bass is much better than just one pair of Impact Monitors. The soundstage is also much larger in all respects. The whole sound is more life like. I spent 4 hours listening last night. I'll be adding HFTs, Ground Control adapters and Perfect Path Technology E-Cards to the new pair of monitors. These are now basically Tekton Encores but with controllable stereo subs.

sbayne

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I was advised today what I plan to do “won’t work”.  Hmmm, we shall see.

sbayne

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I've now heard a pair of Encores. To be honest, its what I expected which is sound very much like my Impact Monitors/Servo Subs but with a larger presentation. I found them to be a little more forward sounding in the upper midrange and treble than my speakers which I attribute to the upgraded crossover parts/wire in my speakers. The lower midrange is where I found the Encores to clearly best my set-up. I'm not totally sure, but I think that comes from the additional array the Encores have that the Impact Monitors do not. So.....I have a few thoughts on how to alleviate this "problem" which I will be putting together in the next few weeks.

sbayne

Owner
I've been contacted about a pair of Moabs in the area I can audition. So, hopefully, I'll hear both the Encores and the Moabs before the end of the year.

sbayne

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I'm in North Carolina. I know of 2 pairs of Encores in the State which I hope to audition. If anyone has the Ulfs or Moabs in North Carolina or South Carolina and wouldn't mind if I stopped-by for a listen please let me know! Thanks.

sbayne

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In the past month I've been asked how Impact Monitors sound versus the bigger speakers in Tekton's line. I've answered those folks but I thought I'd post it here: 

"Hi -I've spent considerable time with the Double Impacts. Most of it when I helped another audiophile set a pair up. I can confidently say my upgraded Impact Monitors with stereo servo subs are better than a stock pair of Double Impacts. The biggest difference is in the lower midrange and bass. With the lower notes being handled by very quick powered subs, that (obviously) are in a different enclosure from the monitors, you get a very musical and slightly more powerful sound.

Up top, my monitors have more air, have a larger soundstage and simply sound more natural than the Double Impacts. I'm sure thats because of the massive parts upgrades to the crossover and internal wiring. 

So, would I sell my monitors to get a pair of Double Impacts? No way. The bigger question for me is how my speakers/subs sound as compared to the Ulf, Encore and especially the Moab. They are all much bigger speakers that use two 7-arrays per speaker with a tweeter sandwiched between the two arrays. The main difference in them is the number and location of the midrange drivers used. All the reviews I've read have been very positive except for the occasional qualm about them being too big for many rooms. Eric doesn't agree with that assessment and has even released a video on the subject. I'll attempt to hear these larger Tekton speakers in the next couple months. Thanks for asking. I'll get back to you." 

sbayne

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More exciting research on graphene and quantum physics.  The next 10 years are going to be very interesting!

sbayne

Owner
Nordstrom Qpoint.  An electromagnetic resonance generator.  Hmmm...another company realizing the benefits of these devices.

sbayne

Owner
I was out of the country for a few weeks and was finally able to sit-down last night for a listen to my system. I'm still very impressed with this fully optimized Tekton/Yamaha combo. Very musical with a palatable soundstage. Very relaxing.

sbayne

Owner
I recently heard some very expensive systems. These folks gave hi-end dealers a budget and let them do their thing. I'm pretty sure none of the owners frequent Audiogon so I'm going to comment here.  Frankly, they were sold audio jewelry with little concern for sound quality. The owners obviously wanted me to gush over their systems. I was kind, but not enthusiastic.  One guy told me he has about $100k in his system - I just smiled.  I guess audio dealers are like most other salespeople. They sell the customer whatever they carry and is best for the store's bottom-line. Such is life.

sbayne

Owner
I've put Perfect Path E-Mats underneath the Yamaha and covered all the open RCA connections with Perfect Path caps. The receiver is now completely engulfed with this technology and the sound I'm getting is really quite amazing.

sbayne

Owner
Thanks David. People say things online to each other they would never say to a person's face because they know its not appropriate. Makes no sense other than for self-edification.

sbayne

Owner
I'm going to stay off the forums for a while. Seems like most people there just want to show they are better than someone else. There is no real discussion going on. Not worth my time.

sbayne

Owner
I've come to the conclusion that to get truly high-end sound you must treat the signal, power and acoustics. The components are not nearly as important. Companies like PerfectPath, Synergistic Research, AudioMagic, Tice, Bybee, Kemp and Akiko all seem to be "snake oil" but in reality they are simply using fairly well known technology to get better sound quality.

sbayne

Owner
I added Audio Magic silencers/clarifiers and placed on E-Card on top of them. They have only been cooking for a couple days but they sound spectacular together! I admit, I've officially gone tweek crazy!

sbayne

Owner

I haven't touched my system for over a week now but did do some extended listening last night. The E-Cards and Total Contact are the real deal. Using just a modest (but well engineered) Yamaha receiver I'm getting really, really good sound. But, of course, I can't leave well enough alone so I've been looking at the Audio Magic line of products and have exchanged brief emails with the owner Jerry Ramsey. Here is a quote from his website which is VERY interesting:

"The theory about Pulsed Electron Alignment is based on how electrons spin. They spin either up or down in a phenomenon called spintronics. When there are billions of electrons all spinning their own way, it can create chaos in and around components. By aligning the electrons, you create a more efficient space and eliminate noise. This means that your listening experience is more realistic, with a more musical presentation featuring tighter, more dynamic bass, highs that are delicate and more natural and beautiful midranges."

sbayne

Owner
I placed an E-Card on top of the Kemp QA, the end of my Ethernet cable where it enters the Yamaha and over the speaker binding posts. Its now a couple of days later, and holy crap, the sound has opened-up even more. Problem is I don't know which placement added the most bang-for-the-buck. I'll probably end-up just leaving them there. There is also the additional settling of the Total Contact on the Ethernet cable and the E-Cards on the transformers. Just too many variables too quantify everything.

sbayne

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As a number of you have pointed-out, I've been calling PerfectPath Technologies....... Perpetual Technologies. 

Brain fart, mistake, and apologizes all-around! 

sbayne

Owner
Wow, I posted some reading material over on the Perpetual Technologies thread regarding spintronics (the direction electrons spin around the atom i.e. quantum physics), how it can effect electronic signals in circuits/wire and be manipulated by magnets and graphene. It quickly went to middle-school name calling. I guess we can't have civilized discussion anymore. As a person said on that thread - its "sad".

sbayne

Owner
Last night, I removed a couple of the E-Cards from on top of the Yamaha and placed them directly on the transformer inside. I also applied Total Contact to the ends of the Ethernet cable feeding the Yamaha. Heard an immediate improvement so I'm looking forward to once they settle-in.  Tweaks like this continue to amaze me!

sbayne

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I've done a massive update of MY Place system page with current pictures and explanations. (Frankly, I wish more people would have a system page and keep it current. Many times I see people discussing equipment they supposedly own but they don't have a system page or, if they do, it shows different equipment from what they are talking about)

sbayne

Owner
I got home fairly late last night but still got about 45 minutes of listening in (with an aged tequila in hand!) The sound is even more warm with lots of texture. Not sure if its the magnets I added back or the E-Cards/Total Contact settling-in even more. I used a stack of 5 magnet mats folded over to make a 10 layer bundle. I'm leaving the magnets in for now since I'm liking the sound.

sbayne

Owner
My current thinking is you want to get the electrons spinning as uniformly as possible in the signal passing through your components, cables and speakers.  This is explained through quantum physics which is way above me but many audio companies are now using it to improve sound.  Going to a receiver really simplifies the process because the amp, DAC, preamp, streamer and control functions are all “treated” at the same time and you eliminate the various cables which you normally have to get spinning uniformly as well.  At some point, I’ll probably get more E-Cards and put them along my speaker cables and crossovers just to keep that spintronic effect uniform all the way to the drivers.  For now, I want to see if the magnets help or hurt the signal passing through the Yamaha.  (By the way I’ve heard some great Klipsch setups over the years!)

sbayne

Owner
Sorry Tom, that was definitely a stream of consciousness post. I've moved to a Yamaha R-N803 receiver that I've tricked-out with Total Contact, Synergistic Research Blue fuse, GCTs/ECTs and a double stack of E-Cards on top. I'm getting phenomenal sound. The Yamaha has a built-in streamer (Tidal support), decent phono stage, room correction, sub output, IPad control, etc. I'm back to traveling this weekend but before I leave I'm going to put a stack of magnets underneath the Yamaha and see how it sounds when I get back next week. I'll update pics at some point.

sbayne

Owner
I'm doing some major rethinking and reworking of my system. The holiday break was really refreshing (audio wise).

sbayne

Owner
Hi Tom - yeah I took all the magnet sheets w/ graphene oxide, Tweek Geek Sonic Tonics, High Fidelity MC-0.5s and some DIY Shakti Stones out a couple of days before I started listening with the E Cards and Total Contact. I left all my Synergistic Research stuff in. I tried taking the ECTs and GCTs out but put them back in because the sound was definitely better with them in. I also put some of the DIY Shakti Stones back in. As mentioned below, I've added a Kemp Quantum Approach to the system and I moved the Akiko E-Tuning Gold MKII to a different location. I'm doing this all by ear so its a lot of trial and error.

sbayne

Owner
I've now doubled-up the E-Cards and heard a nice improvement immediately. Relocated some ECTs and added a Kemp Quantum Approach that I had in another system. Things are really coming together.

sbayne

Owner
It’s nice to be on vacation and spend some time with my system.  I haven’t moved the E-Cards around but I have been tinkering with everything else.  It really is amazing how we can tailor sound with various tweaks.  No definite conclusions at this point but this week over Christmas is going to be awesome!

sbayne

Owner
I know you aren't supposed to move the E-Cards around but they definitely sound better in certain areas than in others. Also, they interact with the ECTs I use. I can already tell I need more E-Cards over the transformers because when I stack them up there the sound improves so I ordered another set. The ECTs sound best over circuits than the E-Cards do. Everyone says the E-Cards improve the sound the longer they are left undisturbed so I'm going to TRY to not touch them this weekend! ha,ha

sbayne

Owner
Yep, I got the E-cards and the Total Contact about a week ago. Probably do some serious listening this weekend. I put them on my amp and over my circuit breaker to my listening room.

sbayne

Owner
I listened to just one very familiar cut last night. Things are sounding really good...........

sbayne

Owner
Yeah it should be fun! I have a pretty good handle on what my system sounds like with the magnets. I took the magnets out last night so the system can settle before I put the Total Contact and E Cards in. I talked to Tim this morning and he agreed I should place an E Card over my listening room's breaker circuit using some double-sided tape. I'll try to refrain from any serious listening for at least a week, but that may not be possible!

sbayne

Owner
Things have finally calmed down at work and I should have time over the holidays to evaluate the PerfectPath Tech products. So, I ordered a set of Alpha E Cards from PerfectPath and bought some Total Contact from another audiophile. I'm looking forward to finally checking these out!

sbayne

Owner
I’ve been tinkering with my system lately.  I started to get a little less transparency in the bass and lower mids and the highs didn’t seem as warm. So I put everything back to where I knew I liked it, but it still didn’t sound right.  Finally, I realized the sub for the right channel wasn’t making any sound! The power cord looked like it was in place but was out just enough to lose power.  I pushed it all the way in and the sound snapped into place! Definitely reconfirmed the Impact Monitors sound better with stereo subs!

sbayne

Owner
Listened to Daft Punk's RAM on vinyl last night with my son. That last cut is nuts! Literally thought I was going to blow a speaker!

sbayne

Owner
I ended-up taking the MC-0.5, that has Total Contact all-over it, out of my system. Even when used with the SR Tranquility bases it seemed to add a slight haze to the sound. Really weird. I tried non-treated MC-0.5s in different positions and finally left them as they were before - all together in the same power strip. Since its claimed to be very conductive, I thought maybe the Total Contact was passing some type of noise over the surface of that MC-0.5. So I got out my multi-meter and it isn't conductive as far as I can tell (I readily admit maybe I was measuring it wrong). Whatever. The next logical step is to wipe the Total Contact off and try it all again. So spent a lot of time screwing around and didn't get very far. Argh!

sbayne

Owner
I've been busy with work and family matters lately so not much time spent with my system. I did buy a MC-0.5 from another Audiogoner. He had completely covered it with Total Contact.  Its a strange beast. Definitely does not play well with the other MC-0.5s I have in my system. When pared with other MC-0.5s on the same power strip it added a really weird fazy sibilance to the sound. I moved it to a power strip that powers my SR Tranquility bases and liked what it did. I finally have some time this weekend to mess around with my system so I'll keep experimenting. Again, placement and time with "tweaks" make all the difference.

sbayne

Owner
You mean "life" isn't all about our sound systems? Ha,ha.  I just want to give the E-Cards a fair shot so I need enough time to do that. I don't want to drop them in my system on Friday and reach a conclusion on Sunday. I've certainly learned placement and time in the system can make a big difference with sound quality.

sbayne

Owner
I read a news report this morning that scientists recently figured-out how birds detect the earth's magnetic field to navigate. For decades they thought it had something to do with their beaks being able to feel it but they actually SEE it based on blue-light from dusk. There is so much we still don't understand about sound, light, matter, space, time, physics, magnetic fields.........its really rather arrogant and ignorant for objective audiophiles to claim we can measure every characteristic of sound.

sbayne

Owner
Saw your comments on the E-Cards, Bill. I will get a set at some point. I've been gone so much lately I'm going to wait a little bit when I have more time to devote to my system. I certainly respect your opinions.

sbayne

Owner
Long story short, over the past weekend, I met a quantum physicist and struck-up a conversation. She was talking about the dual nature of light which has both particle and wave-like properties. Apparently, light diffraction can be manipulated at the electron level. I asked her about magnetic fields and graphene. Perhaps she was humoring me, but after I told her what I've been doing she indicated it was certainly possible the "spin" of the magnetic field is why my system seems to sound better. It was refreshing to talk to a scientist who seemed to be fully open to subjective determinations of sound quality!

sbayne

Owner
I painted all the connections inside my Ground Box, including the copper strips, with graphene oxide. I'm a little surprised at the improvement. Starting to wonder how a completely treated speaker wire (on the metal) over the entire length of the wire would sound.

sbayne

Owner
Tom - moving sucks. All the best with the system! Yeah the GO is addictive.  Keep us up-to-date!

sbayne

Owner
Synergistic Research recently had a special if you bought 3 GCTs you received a Blue fuse free. So now, I have Blue fuses in my amp, music server and preamp and all have GCTs on them. Since its not conductive, all my components have also been treated with graphene oxide both inside and out. I finished Bach's Passion last night. I must say the music is so alive and emotional its uncanny. The Blue fuses and GCTs are the real deal.

sbayne

Owner
Finally had some downtime this weekend so I listened to most of Bach's St. Mathew Passion directed by Otto Klemperer with the Philharmonia Orchestra and Choir. This was recorded by EMI and one of the best I own. To me, music is emotion and this piece makes it all flow!

sbayne

Owner
Ok Bill I may take the plunge  Any theories on how they work? He has made very clear it has nothing to do with a magnetic field.

sbayne

Owner
Bill just saw your comments about the E-mat and how removing the EMI barriers seemed to unleash the magic.  Do you still have any of the magnetic mats we’ve been discussing here in your system?

sbayne

Owner
That's ok. I just think they crossed the line and I had to say something.

sbayne

Owner
Well I guess the seller of Total Contact knows exactly what is going on with people painting inside of power conditioners. Last night on their thread they even explained how to get hex screws out and if they are made to be "tamper proof" to drill them out, etc. If a person needs help they can call the seller and he will explain. Since Total Contact states it's Highly Conductive in its literature and that's been confirmed by users I think this is extremely irresponsible and dangerous. I'm going to break my silence and post on that thread.

sbayne

Owner
Yeah agreed. I need to "fish or cut bait" with that amp. I'll be in touch.

sbayne

Owner
Thanks Bill. It appears the seller's wife is the company rep on those boards now so I'll leave it to her. Hopefully, people will use some common sense. I've talked to a number of people about my tube amp to no avail. My fully "treated" little Class A amp is doing a great job though.

sbayne

Owner

For you Total Contact users who may be reading this. Doesn't the seller claim its very conductive? I haven't been reading those message boards much anymore but the main proponent recently posted the following which seems to be very dangerous advice especially if the whole inside of the power conditioner is covered with it? Again, they are claiming its very conductive right?

 "Yes, paste everything inside including the sides of the receptacles (plugs), wires, connections, Caps, AND the inside of the chassis including the inside of the cover. It took an entire tube of TC to do my six-outlet power conditioner. For the price of one tube of Total Contact, if your results are the same as mine, you'll be getting a $10,000 upgrade to your system. No joke." 

sbayne

Owner
Yeah I basically agree with Bill but I would say at least 3 days. If you can wait a week before doing serious listening I would recommend it. Also use as many layers as you can and get EMI inhibitors out of your system since they work against the magnetic field you are trying to create.

sbayne

Owner

Ozzy - Thank you for everything you've done for this audiophile community over the years! 

To answer your questions.

1.  I don't think it matters if you cut the mats to the space you want to use them in. I've pretty much cut all of mine and it doesn't seem like its hampered performance.

2. Based on Bill's observations, there is a difference in sound quality on the orientation of the mat. So, I alternated (magnet facing component/magnet facing away from component) the orientation of all of the magnets in the various stacks. There are so many variables to consider when you make changes its hard to say for sure if this made a big difference in my system but, again, I don't think it hurt the sound quality.

3. I should probably buy some Total Contact since I'm sure it works from what people have said and from my understanding of graphene solutions. I use a cheap non-proprietary graphene oxide that, based on my reading, is used throughout the industry to provide a coating that helps protect and enhance the performance of many things including batteries and solar cells. It has very little to do with conductivity. The graphene oxide does seem to help. I've now painted both sides of all my magnetic mats with it. I've also used it on most of the connections throughout my system.

sbayne

Owner
I think that a SSD will be more than fine with a magnetic field around it. A hard drive or phono cartridge not so much.

sbayne

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Tom - I've got 10 treated magnetic mats on each component. 5 on the top (if possible) and 5 on the bottom. I have a power strip with 4 High Fidelity MC-0.5s plugged-in that has 5 mats under it which are folded-over to create a 10 layer bundle.  I really don't know what the "limit" is when things start changing for the worse.

Removing the RF/EMI absorbers from my system has made a big difference. I think they were messing-up the uniformity of the magnetic field that I've been trying to create. Previously, they only improved the sound because they helped remove "stray" RF/EMI which is all over the place due to the electromagnets being used in the transformers. But when you make a consistent magnetic field around your equipment it really does help the sound.

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Tom thanks for the tip. I didn't realize there would be enough magnetic attraction (pull) on the backside to keep them attached to the breaker door. I may try them that way. You've reminded me of some reading I've been doing on magnetics. There is a difference between magnetic attraction and other magnetic effects. The effects of the magnetic field go much farther than what we feel from just the attraction or pull of the magnetic field. Based on what we have been hearing I thought that must be the case but its good to confirm it.

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I took 5 treated mats and folded them in half so they are essentially 10 layers thick. I put them under my power strip where I have 4 High Fidelity MC-0.5s (see the pic). The sound was immediately improved. So there is yet another variable to try: folded mats creating thick multiple layers.

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Yeah its really interesting how we can change the sound of our systems with these things. There so many different configurations that are possible!

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They are improving with time. Not really sure if it matters to paint both sides. I've gone about this in such a haphazard way that its hard to say what does and does it make a difference. Would almost have to start over and make a "control", change one aspect at a time, let it sit for awhile, then do the next one, etc. Just don't want to invest the time and energy to do that I guess. I, however, did hear an improvement when I placed mats on top and on the bottom but I don't know if I had just placed more of them in the same spot it would have sounded the same. All I really know is It does seem like the more the better.

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I started with painting just one side because I thought it would be too messy to do both sides. Later I started painting both sides. At some point, I should probably go through and make sure everything is painted on both sides. I don't want to touch them now though. I have a local audiophile friend I gave some painted mats to. He put them on his DAC. Got an email last night he is shocked by the improvement and wants some more. Ha,ha.

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Hi Tom - Glad you are back! Your feedback got me thinking about my modem/router - I may start messing with that again. I don't think I'm going to move the mats in my stereo for awhile. I've already gotten great results with their current placement/configuration and want to see what happens when they've been there even longer. Scott

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I let my current configuration of graphene oxide painted on alternate facing magnetic mats sit undisturbed for about 2 weeks. I listened for just over 2 hours last night. I didn't think my system could go farther in this regard but each musical image is rounder, smoother yet more dynamic. The soundstage is not more precise but is wider and deeper. I hear vocalists moving slightly closer to mics and then hear then move back. I hear slight tones coming-off the body of guitars and pianos. Its all kind of spooky but real.  

I can't hardly believe it so I keep asking myself: what is going on? All I can conclude is the magnetic mats when stacked and painted with graphene oxide create a uniform and consistent magnetic field through the component. This magnetic field stabilizes over time and its natural "spinning effect" stabilizes not only the signal flow but the circuits themselves. Subjectively, I guess it really doesn't matter why the sound is improving - all that matters is: it is.  

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Here is some interesting reading regarding what may be going on with the magnets and graphene. Just thought I'd share:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spintronics
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/05/150505082944.htm
https://phys.org/news/2018-05-graphene-layered-magnetic-materials-ultrathin.html

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@audiosens -  The DIY grounding box has binding posts that are attached to copper strips that run through tourmaline crystals.  The grounding wires run to your component. I'd read about this technique and finally gave it a try.  I'm sure there are better solutions but it did seem to lower the noise floor in my system. 

I've now removed the iQSEs. I was using one inside my music server and one on my amp. 

 Scott

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Tom - how is your system sounding? Have you made any changes recently to the placement or configuration of the mats? Scott

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I did some extended listening today. The sound really is something special. I'm going to leave the magnetic stacks in the alternating configuration (as discussed below) for the next couple of weeks and see what happens.

Bill - I'm liking the idea of "Lyngdorf tube art" Also, pretty sure I'm smelling some Acoustic BBQ........ha,ha

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Thanks David. Will do.

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Tonight, I spent a couple of hours listening to a wide variety of music. I must say my system has never sounded so real yet dynamic. Its "right there" type of sound. Not a hint of brightness or excessive treble with a rich midrange and tight bass. However, I respect Grannyring's opinion to the "enth degree" so I took the magnetic sheets off and quickly alternated the sheets within the stack so they went from facing the component to opposing the component back and forth. In other words, they did not all face the same direction but alternated. I did not touch the sheets in the breaker box which are all facing away from the breakers. Against my own inclinations, I immediately listened again and all I can say is "wow"! However, I'm going to let this configuration sit until Sunday (its now Friday) and listen again....

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Bill - after reading your post, I realized my magnetic sheets are attached to the inside of my breaker box door so they are actually facing away from the breakers. The magnetic sheets are facing towards my components and speakers, however. I'm going to do some extended listening tonight and may move some things around based on what I hear. Thanks for the feedback. Scott

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I've placed them with the magnetic side facing the component. I've tried within the stacks to keep them all facing the same direction as well.

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I've now removed Bybee iQSEs I had in my music server and on my amp. I also removed DIY Shakti stones that I had through-out my system and on my speakers. I can't help but think they may have been disturbing the consistency of the magnetic field.  I added treated magnetic sheets to the top and bottom of my speakers as well as added additional sheets to my music server and amp.  I couldn't wait so I went ahead and listened for about 15 minutes. The sound seemed a little "weird" (how is that for an approved audiophile term?). I'm going to let it sit for a few days.

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Very thorough Bill. Not surprised. Looking forward to your comments.

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Sounds good Bill.  I’ve been traveling quite a bit lately so my mats were able to sit without me taking a listen for a few days.  I’m guessing they went through some ups and downs in the beginning which I didn’t have to put up with.  But not really sure.

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Tom - Great that other people may try it too! I've cut all my sheets to fit my equipment - cutting it is no problem as far as I can tell. I may put some sheets on top and on the bottom of my equipment. I'm starting to think its all about keeping a uniform, consistent magnetic loop intact, so top and bottom placement makes sense to me. The graphene oxide is a coating that helps make the magnetic loop even more uniform and consistent. Based on what I've done and heard so far, I don't think it has anything to do with "micro-arcing" or "conductivity".  Scott

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Tom - the only place that I applied the graphene oxide that it didn't seem to help was the outside of my WiFi router and router extension units. I was hoping for a little better WiFi coverage and thought it might help but it didn't. I was able to get it off with 409 cleaner and a rag.

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Hi Tom - Not surprised you found an improvement with the graphene oxide. I've used it on all the cable connections and contacts in my system. Really does seem to work. I cut and added some mats to the top of my speakers today, so I'll report back on that.

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Bill - I totally agree. 

Tom - I may have to get some 60 mil sheets. Seems like the more the merrier. Maybe just try the graphene oxide incrementally? I went whole hog and painted all my mats at the same time. Would be interesting if you heard a difference with it being phased-in. I'm not above admitting what I've heard with the graphene oxide may be due to suggestion based on what I've read about it. However, to answer your question, it did not turn-out to be too much of a good thing :-)

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Based on inquires I've received I just want to make one thing clear: I am NOT claiming what I've put together is the same as making an E-mat. The maker of the E-mat says the magnetic mat has nothing to do with what's going with his product and says the magnet is merely there for convenience to attaching to components. Also, he states his is totally proprietary and came from his own research and development.

What I'm discussing here is the exact opposite of the E-mat. Everything used is not proprietary and is available in the public domain (E-bay), it appears the magnetic field being created is very important to improving the sound and using the graphene oxide is based on research that is all over the internet. The fact the magnetic field builds overtime if its not disturb (the magnetic loop is not broken) and more mats create a stronger magnetic field resulting in better sound quality seems to validate what is going on with what I have proposed. 

So, bottom line, I'm just messing around as a DIYer. I'm going to stop talking about the E-mat on this blog (I've already dropped-off the thread). Please don't ask me anymore questions about it either publicly or privately. Thanks.


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Tom - interesting about the improvement it made to your TV. I'm going to try these treated magnetic sheets on other electronics too.

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After looking at my order again its actually called magnetic sheeting. I ended-up calling them directly and asked them to cut the sheet into 8x11 mats which they agreed to do. When I got the order it wasn't cut but they gave pretty much an entire roll of the stuff which I believe was 30'. Anyway, this is what I used.

 https://www.ebay.com/itm/24-X-5-Roll-Magnetic-Sheeting-Black-Vinyl-20-Mil-thick-Free-Shipping/121882051238?hash=item1c60bc82a6%3Ag%3AqQoAAOSwPgxVLsbR&_sacat=0&_nkw=24%22+X+25%27+Roll+Magnetic+Sheeting&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=m570.l1313

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Hi Tom - thanks for the feedback. Good to read I'm not crazy thinking these magnetic mats help the sound quality. I've always thought keeping magnetic fields away from our stereos was the way to go. Maybe its actually keeping "stray" magnetic fields away but focused strong magnetic fields are beneficial.

As to the graphene oxide, I simply used a paint brush to apply it to the mats. I put the mats together while they were still damp. I didn't wait for it to fully dry.  I continue to read about graphene oxide and I'm not totally sure its positive effects are all about conductivity. It seems to create a coating that can be used for many purposes including improving batteries, optics and electronics. I'm not going to try to explain why (because I don't understand it). Do a simple Google search. Its fascinating reading.

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Thanks Bill. Here is what I've been using:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1Bottle-250ml-Bottle-5mg-ml-Single-Layer-Graphene-Oxide-Aqueous-Dispersion/111589243678?hash=item19fb3cbb1e%3Ag%3AnGkAAOSwKytZGKqd&_sacat=0&_nkw=graphene+oxide&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=m570.l1313

You can buy different quantities from this seller. It says for "R&D only", "keep out of the reach of children", etc on the label. So, I wouldn't drink it :-)

Also, please let me say I have no idea if this will work in every system. Its just a relatively low cost (ongoing) experiment.

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The graphene oxide had a positive effect on the magnetic mats I've been using. Almost every aspect of the sound has improved. If people are reading this I would highly recommend you get on E-bay and buy 20' or 30' of 20mil magnetic mat and a 1.5mil bottle of graphene oxide. Total cost should be a little over $125. Cut the mats to the exact size you need. Use about 7 - 10 layers. Cover each layer with graphene oxide. Stack them either on top or below each component and the inside cover of your breaker box. (Obviously don't put them by anything that could be damaged by a magnetic field such as a phono cartridge, hard drive or even some speakers) Let them sit for at least 3 days. If you don't hear a positive difference I will be shocked! 

On a side note, I read through the latest posts on the E-Mat thread. Looks like the manufacturer and "tester" who received the product for free are trying to squelch opinions from some of the most well-known and respected people on Audiogon. The manufacturer even sent sample E-mats to one of those people, who then didn't give an absolute glowing review so apparently the manufacturer told him to send the samples back! If he would have simply set-up a website to sell his product and let true word-of-mouth sell his product he would have been much better-off. I assume whatever he has created is a much stronger version of what I have put together. 

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I've now painted the magnetic mats with graphene oxide. I'm leaving on another 3 day trip so I will let them "cook"and do another extended listening session.

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I've done some serious listening the past few days. The magnetic sheets are definitely making the presentation more musical. I still need to do more experimenting. For example, it seems by adding even more sheets to the layers makes a nice improvement but I have no idea how much is too much. I realize I'm creating a magnetic field which I thought should always be avoided (lots of audio tweaks try to eliminate EMI) but it seems they are actually beneficial!

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Bill - making the grounding box was easy. I ordered everything off Ebay one night when I decided to build one. The wood box came from there as well. I just checked and it doesn't appear the guy is active on EBay anymore, unfortunately.  I just drilled the holes in the back of the box and added the binding posts.  I used 10lbs of tourmaline and bought a roll of copper . In all, it cost me about $150. I think it was worth it. If nothing else it was a fun project.

The whole thing with the E-mat pissed me off. Really don't understand giving a product away to people who have no idea how it works and then squelching any discussion in that regard. I'm sure its a good product so let it stand-on its own and give us an idea of what's going on - I'm sure its much more than just a magnetic mat! Anyway, I'll report back in a few days.

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Over on the E-Mat thread I was called unethical by the OP and the maker of the E-Mat told another Audiogoner to simply ignore my post about his use of the E-Mat on his speakers and to post pictures of it. I have no interest in being goated into a fight so I simply dropped-off the thread. I'll continue to post my findings about magnetic mats here on my system page.

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Ozzy - The DIY grounding box has binding posts that are attached to copper strips that run through tourmaline crystals.  The grounding wires run to your component. I've attached some additional pictures. I'd read about this technique and finally gave it a try. I'm sure there are better solutions but it did seem to lower the noise floor in my system. By the way, a couple of years ago you taught me how to make DIY resonators so I'm kind of returning the favor.  I've enjoyed reading about your system over the years and how its evolved.  Scott

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I'm now back in town and gave a listen with the four 8x11 magnetic mats under my music server. No doubt another improvement in sound! My 30 additional "mats" also arrived but there was a note in the box saying they could not cut them to size so they sent me a 30' x 2' roll! I now have 10 layers of 20mil magnetic mat on the inside of my breaker box and 10 layers under or over all my components including the power conditioners. I sat down for a brief listen and wow! but I'm going to let them "cook" for a few days before reaching any conclusions.......

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Three days ago I put four 8x11 magnetic mats on top of my music server (no hard drive inside - if there was a hard drive the magnets would wreck havoc with its magnetic platter). I've been out-of-town but gave a listen tonight. Well, I was a little amazed but there was definitely an improvement in sound quality! Each image was a little bigger in the soundstage yet a touch more natural sounding. I'm going away again for 5 days so I will give a listen when I get back. These are very inexpensive so I just ordered 30 more and will try them throughout my system. Interesting stuff!

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Here are my thoughts on reviewers. I recently posted this in response to a magnetic mat that is being sold on Audiogon that was sent to a number of people free of charge. I'm going to copy it here so I can easily get to it for future use:

oregonpapa (Frank) - Thanks for the cordial response. I don’t think receiving a product for free obligates the receiver to post a favorable review but if the person wants to establish a relationship with the manufacturer and keep the freebies coming they would naturally be inclined to give a very positive review. I would hope a person wouldn’t be dishonest just to get free product but full disclosure allows a reader to make their own judgments.

We see this all the time with "professional" reviewers. They review the same companies over and over consistently spewing-out positive reviews. Toss-in the "reviewers discount" they usually get, the free meals at shows, the in-home delivery/setup/consultation and you’ve got to wonder if the relationship is a little too cozy.

A big reason I like reading "non-professional" reviews is because you assume the person actually bought the product and is not being "paid" in anyway for their time or effort to write the review. This is especially true when a money back guarantee is involved - they have decided it truly was worth investing their own money and didn’t return it.

As to my positive comments on products, I can assure you I’ve paid for all of them except for the Burson Audio cables I reviewed which I now agree Audiocircle correctly nixed.

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I had a nice long listening session with an old friend last night. He hadn't heard my system for about 6 months or more. I've had a lot of turnover in equipment since he was last here. He thinks its vastly improved. He is going to try the graphene oxide I've been using. He has a very nice system but is not a tweeker/change equipment nut like I am. I will say the graphene oxide certainly has not lost its effectiveness - if anything its getting better with time.

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Yep, I think the Corelli works best when plugged into the same outlet as the power conditioner which feeds your system. Versus plugging it directly into the power conditioner or some place else on the line such as a power strip. I've tried plugging the Corelli into other power lines throughout my listening room and it had no effect. So, I'm a little surprised the distributor told Ozzy it would affect other lines (he even said dedicated lines) in the listening room and to use it with a power strip. As always, its best to use your best judgment (and ears) when implementing tweeks such as the Corelli and Total Contact.

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David, at least I know someone is reading this! ha,ha. Do you have a power conditioner that feeds your system plugged into the Synergistic Black duplex that has the Corelli? (You really need to get your system page up-to-date, my friend!)

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I've been trying to find out over on the Total Contact thread (which unfortunately has deteriorated into a bunch of name calling) exactly what is in Total Contact. I posted that I was using graphene oxide. I was taken to task by longtime Audiogoner, geoffkait, who stated graphene oxide isn't conductive. I pointed out research shows it is conductive if mixed with distilled water. He said when the water dries it won't be conductive anymore. That's a good point but I have found what really happens the distilled water washes the graphene. The remaining residue contains small particles of graphene and remains conductive. That's why graphene oxide is used in batteries, solar cells and even nano-circuits. Its much cheaper than pure graphene and can be used for many more applications. I highly doubt Total Contact is pure graphene. Just a little bit of it in the wrong place and you would short the circuit. Guys have reported painting the entire surface of capacitors and wires. If it is pure graphene that whole surface would become conductive which is a big problem. Total Contact must be some type of graphene solution - most likely graphene oxide. I use this system page as a blog to record my thoughts about my audio system.  I've decided not to post on the Total Contact thread anymore because both sides are acting like a bunch of middle-schoolers. If my system starts to sound worse and worse as the weeks go on (the grapheme oxide I've used continues to dry - becoming less and less conductive) then I will get some Total Contact and go to town.

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I now use four High Fidelity MC-0.5s in my system. I fully coated them with graphene oxide and let them cook. They add even more "finesse" to the system. As I said before, they definitely need to be upstream of the Corelli to sound their best. Pics updated.

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Well I went nuts with the graphene oxide. After reading what people have been doing with this stuff I decided to apply it throughout my system including places that don't seem to make sense. The biggest improvement came when I did all the connections on my grounding box. Crazy. I also did the two switch plates that feed my system. Double Crazy. I finally popped the top of my Corelli and did the entire interior including the carbon cylinders. Triple Crazy. Well the proof is in the listening. My system is sounding very, very real. Really no other way to describe it.

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I recently purchased 250ML of graphene oxide 5mg/ml solution. I've been using it through out my system. Really remarkable stuff. I know that Total Contact has got glowing feedback so I had to try a graphene solution in my system. What I'm using is much cheaper but also seems to be very effective.

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Hi David - Final placement for the Corelli is with it plugged into the wall outlet that my power conditioner is also plugged into. The MC-0.5, Electraclear and another Akiko Audio Tuning Stick are plugged into a power strip that is also on the same line but is upstream of the wall outlet the Corelli is plugged into. Bottom line is these things all work but you have to be careful what sequence you put them in because they all effect the power in a slightly different way. Scott

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I've had the MC-0.5 in my system for a few days now. It definitely matters where you place this thing in relation to the Corelli. It needs to be upstream. If the Corelli comes before it the sound is messed-up for some reason. I have no idea why. But if the magnetized power is fed into the Corelli you get beautiful music. I'll keep messing with it.

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Based on discussions in various threads, I went ahead and purchased a High Fidelity MC-05 to try with my Akiiko products. The High Fidelity products use magnets to manipulate the electrons in the electrical current. Many people have claimed it helps sound quality. Well known Audiogon member, @Ozzy, apparently has 20 MC-05s in his system! He is curious about the Corelli and has ordered one. The Akiko distributor recommends using the Corelli with a passive power strip and then plugging everything into that. So, that's what I'm going to try along with the MC-05. I have found individually grounding the Corelli also helps with its effectiveness so I'm going to use a separate ground on the power strip as well. This is all very interesting to me. I have a lot experimenting to do!

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Ok David. I've currently got a conversation going (in an Audiogon thread) with the Akiko distributor. He likes the Corelli in his rack by his components! He has indicated it will affect dedicated power lines even though the Corelli is not plugged in to those lines! ha,ha. Oh well, I'll use it where it sounds best to me which is always the best way to go. Let me know where things "settle" for you.

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Dave - I've moved the Coreilli around as far as its cord will let me (I have to plug it into that outlet). I didn't hear a change in sound. My amp is about 5 feet away and my preamp and music server are about 4 feet away. Have you found it somehow affects equipment itself and not just the power going in to it? Scott

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Interesting. How far away would you suggest? Why does it make a difference? Thanks.

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I added an Akiko Audio Corelii to the system. Yep, the hype is correct! Pics updated.

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Name the day! I'll be there! ha,ha

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Keep us apprised David. I heard  back from my friend. He doesn't want to be in in the Tekton Wars as he put it. He did move things around by moving the speakers about a foot closer to the front wall but not toed-in. He's also not sure about his cables. I told him wait for the WE cable to arrive (he ordered them when I was there) and let them burn-in. Also, he says the Ayre DAC is much better than the DAC in the Halo. I'm going to bow-out now on this subject. It was still a fun day.

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Thanks David. Always a gentleman. I really mixed things up for him.  I’m going to let the dust settle and see where he ends-up.  Who knows maybe he was just being polite and moved everything back after I left!!

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I recently was asked to help an online friend dial-in a pair of Double Impacts. It was a 1.5 hour drive for me each way but I agreed since it would give me a chance to listen to them for most of a day and get a much better understanding of that speaker. Whether good or bad, he agreed I could post my thoughts on this system page. 

My first impression was those things are big! I was certainly glad he had them in his listening room before I arrived. He was running them with a Cary 300SE integrated which is a 300B tube based SET. We listened for about 10 minutes. The sound was nice but not that coherent and a little muddy. 

The first thing I recommended is pull them farther into the room. He had them about 18" from the front wall. When we got them about 3' from the front wall the sound changed drastically. The soundstage was much more present and the bass started to tighten-up. Next we pointed them straight ahead instead of toe-ing them in. Again, this helped the soundstage and especially the coherency of the sound. It also help tame a slight treble zing we both were hearing. 

We listened for a while, ate a great lunch and started our afternoon session. I had brought with me a fully broken-in pair of Western Electric 10 ga speaker cables and my Synergistic Research XOT Carbons.  He was a little hesitant in replacing his speaker cables (I'm not going to name them but I will say they have gotten a lot of talk on these boards and many people claim they are the best they have heard) - it was immediately obvious the Western Electric cable was much better sounding top to bottom. The whole presentation sounded more natural. My friend was astounded. He has a set on order.

Next, we added the XOT Carbons. The sound was even more natural and the soundstage expanded even more. He said he "might" get a pair of the Carbons (I think he should. He is going to be way ahead financially once he sells his current cables and, as discussed below, possibly his amp) 

Finally, I convinced him to try his Parasound Halo integrated with the Double Impacts. He was planning on selling the Halo since he always wanted to try a SET tube amp and that is one of the reasons he bought the high-efficency Tektons. Well, let me say, the Parasound blew the Cary out of the water! The bass firmed-up, the midrange opened-up and the treble just floated on top. We were both amazed.  Many people have reported using their Double Impacts with low power amps with great success which I understand - the sound with the Cary was excellent. I don't know if it was the Parasound in-and-of-itself or just the additional solid-state power but there was no doubt which amp sounded better. 

We listened for a good while more and I had to take-off. The next step I suggested is try using the DAC in the Halo instead of his Ayre QB-9. I don't know how it turned-out but it would eliminate a step in his digital chain which is always helpful.

Overall, it was a great day. The Double Impacts are definitely great speakers and deserve as much attention to setup and equipment selection as possible!  

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I've updated my system descriptions with a complete listing of all my gear and accessories. Phew..that's a lot of stuff.

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Thanks David. You really should post your system. I basically know about it but your updates and thoughts would be really interesting!!

sbayne

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I got the system pics and descriptions updated now. The grounding box turned-out better than I expected. Individual grounding really does work!

sbayne

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Hi David - I'm building the grounding box myself and hope to get it done tonight or tomorrow. I'll get some pics of that and the Akikos up in the next couple days.

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Last night I added another Akiko Triple AC Enhancer to my outlet extension. Wow! These things really do work. The effect truly is cumulative. I've been told adding a Grounding Box when used with the Akikos takes it to yet another level. So, that may be next step!

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When I was rearranging my system I decided to put all my Akiko Audio products on the same circuit by using an outlet extension. The effect is supposed to be cumulative so I thought it was worth a try. I thought I'd have to do some careful listening and change the various Akiko in/out of the outlet extension. As it turned out, it was immediately obvious they sounded much better together. Its seems like overkill to have a Triple AC Enhancer, Tuning Stick and E-Tuning Gold MKII all on the same circuit but it really does work. I'm guessing it's much like having a Corelli in your system!

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jond - Thanks. Same to you!

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Thanks jond. I've added some pictures of the updated equipment. My amp is now a 30 watt triode thats been heavily modded with Duelund CAST caps and a Bybee music rail. The preamp is a Decware CSP3 with the Jupiter cap upgraded. I've got well over 100 hours on each of them now so the sound is really coming together and will get even better with more hours. Grannyring heavily modded my Impact Monitors earlier in the year. The change in sound quality was so good I decided I wanted a preamp and amp with similar upgrades. It was much cheaper to find equipment that already had what I was looking for than have my existing equipment professionally modified with Jupiters or especially Duelunds. Some may think the cost of these caps is crazy (and yes they are expensive) but the proof is in the listening.

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I’ve changed out my preamp and amps. The equipment I had before was very good and I was a little nervous to let it go. I’ll  be posting soon on my new equipment but for now I will just say it seems crazy when the caps in the component cost more than the component!  But I’m learning it’s not crazy at all..........

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Agreed. Let us know.

sbayne

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Thanks @david_ten. Yeah, professional musicians obviously have very good ears and know what live acoustic music should sound like. It was really interesting talking with them about my system. That T+A PA 3100 HV you are demoing is a very nice piece and should go well with your DI SE. I'm sticking with tube gear for the time being but good SS is always an option.

sbayne

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We had a great collection of professional musicians over last night. The group included a conductor, a concertmaster, a composer and various orchestra members. After dinner, drinks, piano playing and conversation we ended-up in my listening room. I've had a few of these people over before but the majority had never heard my system. They were truly shocked that this level of reproduced music was possible. They understood immediately why attention to every little detail in a system is important. Much like how a musical instrument is made, setup and played. 

The consensus was dynamics and soundstage were limited as a compared to a live orchestra (this is undoubtedly true) but the overall tone and emotion of the music was spot-on - which I took as a big compliment. It was simply a great evening!

sbayne

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After weeks of 24/7 break-in of the upgraded crossovers I inserted my Impact Monitors back into my main system. These speakers have been transformed! They were excellent before but now they are simply amazing! There is layer after layer of textured natural sounding music. They remind me of the Shindo Latours. The music "breathes" meaning dynamics are effortless, there is no specific soundstaging or defined treble/mids/bass there is just music! Its like the speakers aren't even there.

sbayne

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Well, the saga of break-in continues. I'm guessing I have about 200 hours on the new crossovers and they have taken a step back again - I think. Problem is my music server stopped at some point so I'm not exactly sure how much signal passed through the crossovers. Also, this pure Class A amp I'm using for this task I'm pretty sure wasn't fully broken-in so its been going through sonic changes. Finally, I've added some Western Electric wire that Bill recommended which is also breaking-in. I'm going to let everything keep cooking and then finally insert the speakers back into my main system. I probably should have done this differently but that's where I'm at for now.

sbayne

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It's been a wild ride as these upgraded crossovers break-in. The caps are obviously huge, there is 18 meters of new Duelund wire and lots of new soldier joints. When I first got them back from Bill they sounded spectacular but around the 48 hour mark (I've been playing them 24/7) the soundstage constricted and the highs became edgey. This went on for at least another 2 days. Now, I've got about 130 hours on them and they are back to sounding glorious. 

Bill told me this would happen and indicated they will be most of the way at the 300 mark but not fully broken-in until 500 hours or so. I, of course, have not been using my tube amps for this so when I put those back-in the sound will, hopefully, be even better. I've been using a 25 watt pure Class A amp and I'm starting to think that amp wasn't even fully broken-in!.....so, it's been a fun but tedious process - with much more to come!


sbayne

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As some of you may know, Grannyring (Bill) did some extensive upgrading of the crossovers in his pair of Double Impacts. After talking to him about those upgrades and seeing pictures of the quality of his work I asked him to upgrade the crossovers in my Impact Monitors. He graciously agreed. I've added a picture of a completed crossover in my system photos. He was able to use the excellent (but huge) Jupiter VT caps. I'm still in the break-in phase but I can say they are improved on all levels. I'll update this page as the break-in period proceeds. All I really have to say at this point is: Wow and thank you Bill!

sbayne

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I've now added Iso-Pucks under the F8s - another improvement in sound quality. The big news, however, is yet to come. I'm convinced there is even more sound quality to squeeze out of this system. This change is not in place yet, but if it doesn't take it to another level I'll be shocked!

sbayne

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Yep, not surprised they responded well to the Aurio Pros. This speaker really reveals changes in your system whether good or bad. Regards.

sbayne

Owner
Well, the Iso-Pucks are keepers! Pretty much every area of sound quality was improved. I'll probably get some for under my F8s or some other IsoAcoustics product if the F8s are too heavy for the Iso-Pucks.

sbayne

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@aniwolfe - I've been reading over on the Double Impact boards that IsoAcoustics are becoming popular with that crowd. I found a pretty good deal on a set of IsoAcoustics Iso-Pucks so I'm going to try those under my Monitors. Probably similar to what the Aurios will do for the sound. Should be interesting comparing notes with you.

sbayne

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I updated my system pics to show the recent changes.

sbayne

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Thanks @aniwolfe! 

I use Herbie's Iso-Cups under my Impact Monitors and have added some weight on the top of the monitors to stabilize/couple them to the Iso-Cups. It did make a very nice improvement. I haven't tried the Aurios or Rollerblocks. Please let us know how they work-out. With these speakers you can hear every change you make to your system!

sbayne

Owner
Well the maple blocks and the bigger Tranquility Bases are now under the amps. To my surprise, everything has "relaxed" even more and the soundstage is spooky good. I can't say the soundstage expanded but its just more real.  Hard to believe such things make a difference but they definitely do!

sbayne

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I'm waiting for stain to dry on some maple blocks for my amps. I'm also going to bigger Tranquility Bases for the amps. Previously, I had the Tranquility Bases on the floor. I'm thinking the maple blocks should clear-up the sound even more.

sbayne

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Thanks Bon. I think you'll like the Rythmik. Since the Impact Monitor is vented you will have to mess with the phase/delay to integrate it the best. I suppose placement in the room also makes a difference. Enjoy!

sbayne

Owner
I upgraded the power cords on the Rythmik subs and it made the soundstage even more realistic with very natural decays.  It’s amazing what even “small”changes can make to the overall sound of your system.

sbayne

Owner
@grannyring - Thanks! It's worked out well. It seemed like a logical next step with these monitors. Now if I could just convince you to upgrade the monitor crossovers for me..........hint,hint  :-)

sbayne

Owner
I've now spent hours listening to the various settings for phase/delay. As Rythmik indicated, if being used with vented speakers the subs may need some significant phase/delay. I ended-up at about 120 degrees which is probably about 5 ms. I pretty much don't even know the subs are working until you turn them off and listen - then you realize what they are adding to the overall sound - just as it should be.

sbayne

Owner
Thanks mapman. Its still a work in process, but the Rythmik F8s cabinet size and design go well with the Impact Monitors so that is a good first step in getting them to integrate.

sbayne

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bdp24 - I updated my system description. These are the Rythmik F8 subs. They integrated really well. I'm still messing with the phase/delay. Rythmik explains on their website that with a vented main speaker (which the Impact Monitors are) it takes some time to get the phase/delay right - there are very slight audible differences with each setting change.

The REL was fine (not much to fault) but the Rythmik Servo drivers are even faster and musical. No overhang or bloat which isn't a "problem" with the REL just that the Rythmiks are noticeably better.


sbayne

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Updated system pics with the new subs. Still messing with set-up.

sbayne

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I’m going to be adding dual subs in the near future. Should be interesting.

sbayne

Owner
I've been using EMI/RF absorbers for years. In the pictures you can DIY Shakti Stones and I've recently added Bybee iQSEs to my preamp and music server. All of these types of products are highly recommended.

sbayne

Owner

Thought I'd add my review of the Tekton Design Impact Monitors to my "blog"

REVIEW – TEKTON DESIGN IMPACT MONITORS

PRELIMINARIES

I’ve been reading a lot about Tekton Design’s Double Impact speakers. When a professional reviewer, Terry London, chimed-in a few months ago with his super positive review I started paying even more attention to what people were saying. I stalked the boards and asked a few questions mostly about listening distances and room sizes. I finally emailed Eric. He responded right away and when I called, Karma put Eric on the phone for a short conversation to confirm a few details. I decided on the upgraded Impact Monitors and since he had a pair in-stock Eric promised to ship the same day. I received the tracking number shortly after the call and had the speakers about 4 days later. They arrived well packed and without a scratch. The fit-and-finish of the standard cabinet is excellent. No complaints with communication, shipping speed or quality from me.

I spent considerable time figuring-out where to place the Impact Monitors in my room and what listening distance to use. My listening room is 25’ x 15’ x 10’. I ended-up with them 42” from the front wall and about 5' from the closest sidewall. My listening position is 8’ from the front baffles with the center tweeters at 43"which is ear height. They sit about 9' a part.

I ran them continuously for 5 days. The sound opened-up a little each day but I had a hell of a time getting the lower midrange and bass to sound right. No matter where I placed the speakers, or my REL subwoofer, the low-end sounded weird. It sounded thick/smeared and no way in the same league as the upper midrange and treble. I tried different speaker stands and spikes. I tried different cables. I added a Synergistic Research carbon XOT, which helped, but the sound in the low-end was simply screwed-up. I knew it wasn’t my sub because the problems occurred even with it turned-off. Finally, I remembered “the cheapest but most effective tweak”: tighten the mounting screws around the speaker cones! (Don’t over tighten them just make sure they are snug) Well, low and behold a screw on one of the 6.5” speaker cones was very loose and a couple of tweeter screws needed a few turns to completely secure them. With all the screws firmly in place the bottom octaves snapped in to focus - tight yet with plenty of texture and bloom.

I have a number of tube and solid-state amps that I tried with the Impact Monitors. I really enjoyed a 25 watt Class A amp with them but I ended-up preferring my 200 watt tube mono blocks. I readily admit the choice of amps is subjective so your mileage will obviously vary. Rest assured any quality amp will work well with the Impact Monitors. Even my flea-watt SET worked well. However, remember, in normal configuration, they are 4 ohms (8 ohms is optional) and are rated at 94db sensitivity.

My taste in music is mostly jazz, blue grass, country and rock. For instance, I listen to a lot of Gov’t Mule, Gregg Allman, Neil Young, Holly Cole, Shelby Lynne, Johnny Cash, Nickel Creek, Earl Scruggs, Led Zeppelin, Clark Terry, Oscar Peterson, Duke Ellington, Ella Fitzgerald, etc. If I listen to classical music, it’s usually solo piano, cello or violin.

LISTENING

Even during the set-up period I could tell these speakers are special. If I were to describe their sound in one word it would be: “natural”. The tone is spot-on and they present a very coherent dynamic sound – much like good horn speakers. They don’t sound laid-back, forward or any other term – they just sound right. There are no overdone highs or lows. When a vocalist sings an “s” it doesn’t sound like a “z”. Bass guitars don’t sound like one note blobs. Violins don’t sound like nails on a chalkboard. As he claims in his ads, Eric has “captured the harmonic spectra of the music being played”.

They image as well as anything I’ve had in my listening room. Each performer is properly placed in the soundstage but they aren’t etched in stone – just like live music. Depth, width and height of the soundstage are excellent.

The Impact Monitors “only” play down to 40Hz or so. Based on your listening preferences, or room requirements, that may be low enough. I would avoid pushing them into corners or towards the front wall to augment their bass. Instead, as mentioned above, a subwoofer when properly set-up is a very viable solution if you want more bass. I realize you could buy a pair of Double Impacts or move even higher up the Tekton food-chain but space constraints, cost or even aesthetics in your room my prevent that.

Finally, I need to mention my extensive use of Synergistic Research (SR) equipment. The SR stuff has always had a significant impact on the sound in my system and that was especially true with the Tekton speakers. I listened for a while with the SR Atmosphere/FEQ turned off and the soundstage suffered. Not that the soundstage was bad but it REALLY shines with the SR technology engaged. I highly recommend you try SR with Tekton’s new tweeter array.

SUMMARY

Tekton Design’s Impact Monitors do very little, if anything wrong and enter the realm of unbelievable value when you consider their price of $1,800 ($2,100 with upgraded parts) delivered!

sbayne

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I'm now using Tekton Design Impact Monitors. The tweeter array in those speakers is excellent. The bass is not the same as the VR-7 HSE but with the REL sub it is very good.The Tekton's are considerably less expensive so it frees up some cash as well. I am going to miss those VR-7s though!

sbayne

Owner
I sold my Von Schweikert VR-7 HSE. I must be crazy! Pics posted. More to follow.

sbayne

Owner
Breezer - Also, if you are building a Shindo system I would start with a preamp and go from there. The Monbrison is excellent.  As you probably know, Ken Shindo has passed away but his wife and sons are continuing on the business. According to Art Dudley, Takito (sp?) built for years for his Dad and is now coming out with "new" designs that build on what Shindo did in the past. That's another reason I should have hung-on to my Shindo gear since it was all "classic" Shindo which probably has appreciated in value! Oh well.

sbayne

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Breezer - The reason I got rid of my Shindo gear is I had too much money tied-up in my system. I had 3 boys heading towards college and I just couldn't justify it. If I had another zero behind my net worth I would have kept it!

Of all the Shindo equipment I had the Vosnee Romanee preamp is the piece that hurt the most to sell and the one I may own again some day. It does everything right. It sounds very real without being too warm or lush. The next piece would be the Shindo 301 turntable and cartridge. It was obviously a labor of love for Ken Shindo and when set-up correctly is probably one of the best tables in the world. The amps come in next. I thought they were very good but not world class like the preamps and turntable were.

One regret I have is that I didn't complete the Shindo system. I never sprung for a set of Shindo speakers. I had an opportunity to buy a pair at a "reasonable" price but didn't do it. Looking back I wish I had but those college tuition bills were calling........  Thanks for asking, take care.


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I just want to clarify my comments on how the Synergistic Research (SR) Atmosphere/FEQ work. I still believe SR is manipulating the Schumann Resonance based on my previous experience with the Acoustic Revive and my own using/listening to their products. However, it should be made clear SR says they are using a multi-wave radio frequency (RF) generator not a Schumann Resonance generator. Whatever the case may be, I think these processes go in-hand which SR seems to allude to with this comment in their explanation of what's going on:

"In a nutshell, we discovered that during the day ambient RF is stronger while the Earth’s Schumann Resonance is weaker in relation to overpowering solar and man-made radio frequencies."

I've received emails from a fellow Audiogoner who wanted more and more details. At this point, I should bow-out and simply refer people to SR for further explanation.  Thanks!

 


sbayne

Owner
Thanks Dan. Best regards!

sbayne

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Hi Dan (islandmandan) - I've used solid silver cabling over the years and I certainly understand why you like them. Switching between a SET 300B and Class D amp? Sounds crazy but I understand that as well! Sometimes our moods change! Haha. 

The Synergistic Research (SR) stuff seems like snake oil but I can tell you it's worked wonders in my system.  The Atmosphere and FEQ are based on the Schumann Resonance which is real and well documented. The resonance is generated at 7.83Hz. I used a resonator generator that was built by Acoustic Revive.  What I think SR has done is understand how to manipulate the resonance slightly both in frequency and time delay. They also use various sizes of generators with the FEQ being the smallest and the Atmosphere Xl being the largest.  The BlackBox, Acoustic Panels, ATM, HFT etc that SR sells at built to resonate the Schumann Resonance in various ways. They all work without an Atmosphere or FEQ but not nearly as well. SR's website discusses all of this more thoroughly but this my basic understanding of what's going on. 

There are a lot of skeptics out there but, for me, the proof is in the listening. With the SR products the soundstage is increased dramatically and each "section" of music (treble, midrange & bass) are all made more realistic. 
If you have a chance check them out!

sbayne

Owner
Just added a picture of the FEQ on footers and a stand. This increased height helped its performance much like it helped the Atmosphere's performance I referred to in an earlier post.

sbayne

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Ha,ha. Funny you say that - I had the exact SAME experience so I took the red ATM out completely and went back to the smaller ETFs. But there is no denying it works!

sbayne

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Thanks FolkFreak! I do use the green ATM. I agree its a significant improvement over the red. I was emailing Ted Denney and suggested he make a big ass ETF to use on top of components in place of using a bunch of smaller ones. He told me to use the red ATM in place of smaller ETFs since they work in a similar way. Just a little FYI if you still have the red ATM.

sbayne

Owner
I added a tube based 7.83 HZ Schumann Resonator which augments the Synergistic Research FEQ and Atmosphere. I also raised the Atmosphere about 8 inches higher off the floor which added even more "bloom" and bigger soundstage to the sound.

sbayne

Owner
I added a Doge 8 (2017 Clarity edition) tube preamp to my system and updated pics. I've got about 200 hours on the preamp and it's really starting to open-up!

sbayne

Owner
I've been messing with the location of the Synergistic Research Black Box. Long story short, directly between the center of the speakers is by far the best location. Duh!! I'm now getting the most refined sound in the bass I've ever had. It even has caused me to swap-in some different components into my system - such as a tube preamp.

sbayne

Owner
More updated pics. Also moved the mono amps to the sides instead of the rack to let them breath a little better.

sbayne

Owner
I recently have been using Burson Audio cables. They sent me the Cable+ for audition which I thought were excellent. So at my expense, I ordered their Cable+ Pro cables that have upgraded wire and connectors. These cables use a powered buffer to match the impedance of your components. Overall conclusion is they are excellent on sources and are a very high value cable!

sbayne

Owner
Updated pics. I've added an Auralic Altair music server and the Dared DV-200s amps. I put a picture at the end showing the system in the dark - glowing toobies!

sbayne

Owner
200 hours and counting on these BIG tube amps. Holy crap!! I'm totally on board with big tube power! (I reserve the right to change my preferences for power amps at my whim! - this is MY blog after all! Ha,ha...) Seriously, I had no idea. i've gone low power SET, medium power Class A solid state, high power solid state and super heat Class pure A. As of today, big tube power rules!

sbayne

Owner
Here we go again. I recently purchased a pair of mono tube amps. Each amp weighs 60lbs. The transformers are HUGE. There are 6 KT-88s on each amp. The seller obviously didn't like the sound because he told me he listened to a bunch of different 6SN7s and ECC88. He also upgraded all the KT-88s to Gold Lion remakes. The tubes alone are worth what I paid for these amps! He purchased the amps new and said he listened to them less than 20 hours. I believe it. The tubes look brand new. No heat residue on the KT-88s, for instance. 

If you read my posts you know I'm a big believer in break-in. You simply have to let the transformers and circuits heat-up for an extended period of time. Yes, the first day I used them the amps sounded harsh and constricted (which the seller obviously heard and didn't like). But over 100 hours later, they throw a smooth, huge soundstage. The bass has all kinds of texture and is rock solid. 

The guy simply didn't give these amps a chance and lost a lot of money for his impatience.  Oh well, his loss my gain. 

sbayne

Owner
Based on numerous testimonials I purchased a Signal Cable REL Speakon cable to replace the stock REL cable. Well.....they are right! All aspects of this sub's performance is enhanced. Highly recommended.

sbayne

Owner
This Odyssey preamp is WAY overbuilt. It weighs close to 50 lbs! The transformer is as big as most power amp transformers. Its dead quiet - even with the volume fully open. It also has an excellent MM/MC phono section. I haven't talked to Klaus about it but I assume this is what you get when you ask for his Tempest preamp on STEROIDS!

sbayne

Owner
I really didn't "need" a subwoofer because the Von Schweikert VR-7 HSE have excellent bass. However, I saw this REL Strata III for sale in my local Craigslist at a crazy low price (they were moving and had purchased a "surround system", etc) so I bought it and hooked it up. I must say, its a very nice addition to my system. Adds just a touch of solidity to the music which probably doesn't make sense but if you could hear it you would know what I mean. After I bought it I read the reviews of the Strata III and it turns out this is one of the more reasonably priced "musical" subs out there (whatever that means).

sbayne

Owner
Some major changes coming to my system.  This hobby is crazy!!

sbayne

Owner
I've had inquires regarding the horn speakers and various amps/preamps I have "stored" in my listening room. The short answer is: "Yes, they are for sale". The horns are Frazier Dixelanders. I stained them, added legs and rewired the horn drivers. The amps are low wattage Class A or SET tube. The preamps are all solid state. The receiver is a Fisher 800. The Thorens 124 is not for sale. If you are truly interested perhaps we can workout an audition if you are in the Charlotte, NC area.  Thanks.

sbayne

Owner
Updated my system pics. Been going back and forth between the Thorens 124 and Pro-Ject Xtension 10. Both are excellent - will probably keep both!

sbayne

Owner
The other day I thought I purchased an item with Buy it Now. I was in the process of paying and when I clicked the final button to make payment  - it came back and said the item had already been sold! I've never had this happen before. I assume someone was in the process of making payment when I hit Buy it Now and finished before I did. Really strange and a little aggravating!

sbayne

Owner
I added a tube preamp back into the system (was going direct from the Mytek Brooklyn) and, yep, there is a little more "bloom" to the music. Also, I've been messing around with my Thorens 124 turntable which likes a little more gain than the Mytek could provide........more to come........

sbayne

Owner
Tidal finally launched TidalMasters today to showcase their MQA titles. I just finished listening to some Emmylou Harris and Led Zeppelin. Sound staging is top-notch with a very smooth presentation. They sounded a little thin, however, as compared to my 16bit/44.1 khz of the same recordings through the same DAC - a Mytek Brooklyn. This was just a short listening session so not going to draw too much from this. Good to see Tidal follow through with, at least, some commitment to MQA.

sbayne

Owner
I added the "green" version of the Synergistic Research ATM for the Atmosphere. It's pricey but "WOW" the soundstage explodes even more but with refinement. They are really on to something here!!

sbayne

Owner
Ha,ha. It's tempting.

sbayne

Owner
A follow-up to my story below. The dealer now has the item at $2,450 which is $250 less than what I offered him over a month ago!  All because he wouldn't negotiate!

sbayne

Owner
Yep, I agree its a buyers market right now. Be interesting to see where we are at 6 months from now. Since the election is over, its a new year, etc.

sbayne

Owner
Just to relate another story on this topic. About a month ago a DEALER had an item for sale at $3,000 or Best Offer. I offered him $2,700 (10% off asking price). He didn't counter the offer. Instead, he sent me an email explaining he can't go any lower and the retail on the item was thousands more. I thanked him for the email and said I understood. Well....2 weeks later he lowered the price to $2,800 and it didn't sell. 2 weeks after that he lowered the price to $2,700 (my original offer) and it sat there unsold. He recently renewed the ad with an asking price of $2,600 or best offer.  If he had only used common sense and countered my original offer he would have sold the item and made more money! Really stupid in my opinion.

sbayne

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Bubba12 - A $10,000 offer on a $11,500 item is fair and should at least get the negotiation started! I really don't understand the mentality. I've heard the JC-1s a number of times and they are excellent - just let them "cook" for awhile! 
Best regards, Scott

sbayne

Owner
Since I'm using this as my personal blog I'm going to discuss another little pet peeve of mine. The people that put "Best Offer" in their ads and then say in the ad (this is from an actual recent ad): "all requests for discounts or low-ballers will be ignored".  Does this make sense? Getting the negotiation started is the key to any sale! Even if someone lowballs you - your response should be respectful and come back with a reasonable counteroffer. More often than not you will reach an agreeable middle point. Also, what IS a low-ball offer? I've made offers within 90% of the asking price and have been told-off or ignored. To me, thats crazy if you are truly trying to sell something!

sbayne

Owner
I've purchased lots of used gear over the years and I'm dismayed at the amount of equipment that wasn't even broken-in when I received it. Many times they have sold it looking for a different sound or to try something else. To me, that means they didn't like what they heard. Well, without playing it for at least 50 hours or more, they simply had no idea what they had. I don't understand the the apparent lack of use of our expensive stereo systems. I guess people buy things just to buy things.


sbayne

Owner
Just wanted to put in a plug for Klaus Bunge who owns Odyssey Audio. I'd heard his equipment and talked to him briefly at shows but really didn't have a chance to have direct conversations until recently. Very interesting guy who certainly knows how to build high-quality amps. As he would say "......that's no bullshit!!"

sbayne

Owner
I also added pictures of the recent changes. Thanks for looking!!

sbayne

Owner
Well after a week of break-in and cable changes I can say this is some of the best sound I've ever had. Adding two major component upgrades at the same time is not good for determining the reason for a change in sound quality. But I can say both the Odyssey and Mytek certainly did not take me a step backwards. Good stuff.

sbayne

Owner
I've also moved to a Odyssey Kismet amp. I'm breaking the amp in along side the Mytek Brooklyn DAC. I've got about 40 hours on them and they are sounding very nice but I think I can squeeze even more performance out of them with some cable changes and some SR Black fuses. Will report back....

sbayne

Owner
Thanks.  My typical day is get home from the office.  Eat a light supper then relax in my stereo room (with a nice pour of something) for about a hour or so.  I'm partial to analog but I had chance to hear a Brooklyn recently and decided to pick one up.  I'm going to check out MQA recordings if I can find them.

sbayne

Owner
Just purchased a Mytek Brooklyn. Should be interesting......

sbayne

Owner
I've purchased a lot of Synergistic Research (SR) gear over the years. Alfred at High-End Electronics stands out as the best SR dealer I've dealt with. He is no nonsense and reasonable. He will give you his best price with shipping right away. There is one SR dealer who advertises a lot on the internet who will not give you a price for shipping until after the sale. The reason? His shipping prices are extremely high! Alfred communicates fast and efficiently. So many times I've had convoluted communications with SR dealers either because they were slow in responding or seemed to "not sweat" the details of the transaction. Stuff like not sending tracking numbers or not explaining they had to order the product from SR because they didn't have it in stock. Bottom line: just avoid the hassle and use Alfred!

sbayne

Owner
I recently had surgery on my foot so I've been listening to my stereo literally throughout this entire Labor Day weekend. I'm, obviously, using this forum as my "stereo blog" - putting down my thoughts about my system. Today, I just want to say a little more about the VR-7 HSE. I was very fortunate to find these locally for a very reasonable price. I heard these exact speakers a number of years ago and was very impressed. So, when they came up for sale I bought them even though I wasn't in the market for a new pair of speakers. The VR-7 HSE were built to a very high level. In today's market, I'm sure these would cost well over $20k. I've thoroughly broken them in and further tweeked them with Synergistic Research HFTs. At this point, the sound quality is very hard to fault. They are big speakers that simply disappear yet explode and fill the room when the music calls for it. They throw a 3D soundstage with music presenting well past the sides, behind and to the front of the speakers. Yet, when its an individual with a guitar and mic the soundstage "smalls" down and its like he/she is sitting right in front of you.  You can hear when the musician moves away from the mic or changes head position. The bass literally shakes the room on some tracks but isn't boomy.  I may experiment with some big ass tube amp at some point but even being driven with a "modest" solid-state integrated the VR- 7 HSE are a joy to listen to!

sbayne

Owner
Will do. Thanks.

sbayne

Owner
Spencer - I've been running the MacBook off battery power and removing the power leg of the USB connection during playback since my DAC is self-powered and doesn't need the power running through the USB connection. Both of which adds considerably to the sound in my opinion. Vinnie Rossi has a power option coming off his DHT for the microRendu which folks over on AudioCircle claim helps the microRendu because its no longer on the grid. Have you tried your microRendu with any type of battery power? Also you need a Ethernet connection for the microRendu correct? I could use a wireless extension I suppose and run an Ethernet connection from there. I play mostly analog but I will continue to check the microRendu out.  Scott

sbayne

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Thanks Spencer. I will check it out.

sbayne

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I had an inquiry about the performance of the Pro-Ject Xtension 10 and (what he believed) was a Shun Mook record clamp. First, let me say the Xtension 10 is a very high value turntable. Its well designed and gets most things right. It almost seems made for the Sumiko Blackbird cartridge. However, its performance was significantly increased when I added the Cardas phono box. The ability to use your own interconnect cables was big for me and it also seemed to lower the noise floor. As to the record clamp, it is not a Shun Mook but its very similar. Its made out of Ebony Root from Africa and is very dense. I've not had a Shun Mook in my system but I do know this record clamp outperforms the stock clamp and a number of others I have tried.

sbayne

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The Parasound Halo really benefited from the Synergistic Research Basik, ECTs, a Black fuse and UEF power cord.

sbayne

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The music server is based on Roon & Tidal. I'm using an IPad as my remote. Very highly recommended combo!

sbayne

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Currently using the excellent Parasound Halo integrated with built-in DAC and phono stage. I've also incorporated a music server based on a MacBook Pro. Getting excellent sound.

sbayne

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Based on Spencer's comments below I've removed the coffee table and a number of pictures from my listening room. I've also followed the placement guidelines for my Synergistic Research UEF Acoustic Panels more closely. Overall, its made a tremendous difference!

sbayne

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!!!!!Crazy changes to my system.......!!!!!! More to come......

sbayne

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I was looking at Synergistic Research's Facebook page today and saw they commonly have the Black Box in front of the speakers. Sent a brief message to them and they said sometimes that location works best. Since I took Spencer's suggestion and moved the large coffee table out of my listening room I was now able to experiment more with the location of the Black Box. And...I've now moved the Black Box out in front of the speakers and very close to my listening position. It has made the entire presentation a little more smoother and cohesive.

sbayne

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Roon is the best library management available - no doubt. It organized my music and combined it with content from Tidal to make categorizes which now make a "complete" library. Very impressive. The user interface is beautiful and easy. If you have more than just a passing fancy with digital music I don't know of a better choice!

sbayne

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 Going to try a Roon/Tidal music server. Doubt it can compete against analog but we shall see!!

sbayne

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Spencer - Great idea! Thanks.

sbayne

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Spencer - you're right the coffee table does change the soundstage slightly.  Now I've got to figure out what to do with it or just live with it!

sbayne

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Agreed.  I've messed with the location of the pictures and finally got them in the least obtrusive places. However, the coffee table I have not experimented very much with. I will report back on if moving it makes a difference. Thanks.

sbayne

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I've now thoroughly broken-in the VR-7 HSEs (yep, had to break-in a 10 year old pair of speakers!). These are truly excellent speakers. Very smooth yet explosive.  If you can get your hands on a good pair of VR-7 HSE or even VR-5 HSE - I would highly recommend it!

sbayne

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I've been asked what happened to the resonators I had been using and selling.  The answer is simple: UEF Panels/Dots by Synergistic Research. Using resonators to expand the soundstage yet focus the image works very well and may still be preferred in some rooms and systems. With the size of my new room the UEF panels make more sense. In this larger room I had been using 40 small resonators along with 3 bowl resonators!

sbayne

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I've recently received inquires about the Fisher 800 receiver and the Thorens 124 turntable (with roll-top plinth) shown in one of my pics. I'm not planning on selling them but, of course, if you REALLY want one of those items shoot me a reasonable offer and maybe we can work something out. Thanks

sbayne

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I've also added Synergistic Research UEF Panels, UEF Dots and an Atmosphere. These are ground-breaking products in my opinion and are highly recommended!

sbayne

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I replaced my Philharmonic Audio 3s with Von Schweikert Audio VR-7 HSE speakers. They are very high quality and represent some of the best Albert has ever offered.

sbayne

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I finally added some photos of my new system. This is a much larger room than I had before. The additional space has made the soundstage blossom. The front-back layering is much deeper - the speakers simply disappear. The SR Black Box and VH Audio Plasmatron 3 have refined the sound to a point I didn't know was possible. This hobby is amazing!

sbayne

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Just got a VH Audio Plasmatron 3 for my sources. All I can say is Holy $hit.....really, really nice...!

sbayne

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I've moved into a different home and have a much larger listening room. Pictures and comments to follow.................

sbayne

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System edited: I've gone whole-hog with my DIY resonators. Its remarkable what these can do.

sbayne

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System edited: Currently using a Project Extension 10 turntable with Grado Statement Master 1. This is an excellent combo and very high value. (Still have the Thorens 124 and Lenco 75 idler drives though!)

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System edited: My system picture now shows the three resonators that I use. The large one is 9" and the smaller ones are 6". I placed a HFT from Synergistic Research inside of each one. I've also made my own HFT and have placed them through out the room and on my speakers. These work well by themselves but Synergistic Research's FEQ is designed to work with the HF. When the FEQ is activated the soundstage opens even more especially with the resonators that I am using. I believe the FEQ generates Schumann Resonance frequencies which audio companies have been experimenting with for years. In 2015 Synergistic Research is coming out with a product they call Atmosphere that from what I can tell manipulates Schumann Resonance frequencies in very specific ways in order to change the acoustic of your listening room. The companies that sell these types of items are definitely on to something but their products are fairly expensive so I'm trying my best to DIY at a reasonable cost.

sbayne

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Ppeters - This is an attempt to recreate the sound of a Highend-Novum resonator (here is a link:http://www.highend-electronics.com/highend_novum.html) which retails for $2,500! Its basically a deep brass bowl mounted directly between the speakers with a hanger thats designed to display bowls. I need to update my system picture because now I use a total of 3 DIY resonators with Synergistic Research HFTs mounted in the center. The sound is crazy good with a huge soundstage, extreme clarity but not harsh or bright. Look around I'm sure you can find some suitable brass bowls and then simply mount one between your speakers and listen!

sbayne

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Doing a lot of experimenting with DIY full-sized resonators and DIY small-sized resonators. The results are truly remarkable especially when a FEQ by Synergistic Research is added. The soundstage is huge and the clarity is like you are there but without a trace of harshness or brightness.

sbayne

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System edited: Synergistic Research Basik and DIY resonator added to the system. Also a pair of IsoL8R bases for the speakers.

sbayne

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System edited: Went back to an idler drive turntable. Been around the block with a Garrard 301, Lenco 75 and now Thorens 124. All classics - fun stuff!

sbayne

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Made some major changes. Going battery powered. Life off the grid is a whole new audio experience! Also been using a DYI sound resonator. All I can say is WOW! More to come.....

sbayne

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System edited: Update: Added a Sony HAP-Z1ES mostly for DSD playback and DSD conversion.

sbayne

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I haven't posted in over a year. Nothing has changed in my system! What that means to me I'm finally off the merry-go-around of equipment!! Its all about the music now. Peace.

sbayne

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Bernardo - I agree they mostly help with imaging/soundstage. By changing the angle of the top diffuser you can literally tailor the soundstage to your liking. As you problem know many people use bass absorbers in the corners of their room to help with standing waves and other problems. I'm probably going to reexamine my room treatments this year - maybe even bring someone in to give me a professional opinion on it.

sbayne

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Hi Alan2 - Yes, I have threaded spikes under each column on the equipment racks. Thanks.

sbayne

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Bimbamboom - Speakers have been the bayne of my existence (pun intended, my last name is Bayne). The Philharmonic 3 looked good on paper because I've really enjoyed that planar midrange sound in the past but attaching them to a cone, dynamic bass driver always seemed to be a problem for speaker designers. I went the low watt, high efficiency speaker route for a number of years which was excellent but again I couldn't get the bass right. I think Dennis Murphy finally solved the problem by using an absolute top quality bass cone in a carefully crafted transmission line enclosure with semi-open baffle, and then, of course, the carefully crafted crossover to get it to be seamless with the planar midrange. Its a remarkable achievement IMO for any speaker, let alone a $3k one!!

sbayne

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Just a few comments on my "new" system. First, Shindo is probably the best you can buy - I know, I owned it. I wanted to buy another share in a very good friend's business so I sold off my Shindo gear. Do I regret it? A little bit. I've replaced it with the best value equipment I know of. Every component has been chosen with value in mind, but it MUST be musical. What I mean by musical is provide an emotional response when MUSIC is played. I could careless about sound effects and synthesized sounds. If you can't sit-down in my living room and play it for me without a rack of equipment then its NOT music....ie, if you need a vocalizer and digitizer to repeat the song then forget it. I have a decent receiver in my home theater to play sound. I want to listen to music.

The TRL, Philharmonic and Dobbins analog is the best value hi-fi I know of. I can still come home from a long day in the office, listen to my system and relax - not thinking about the electronics but just loving the music. Thats what this hobby is all about!!!!

sbayne

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System edited: Extreme makeover to my system! I don't think its "better" than what I had but it is still very, very musical and enjoyable!

sbayne

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System edited: I've been tweaking my Logitech Touch by adding a Welborne power supply and using a SimAudio 100D DAC. This has brought dramatically better sound to the digital side of my system. The Shindo 301 still walks all over it, but there is no debating it is convenient way to listen to your music!

sbayne

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Thanks Matt. The Shindo gear gets better with age, sort of like the fine wines they are named after!

sbayne

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System edited: Changed my listening room. Took a while to get it dialed-in but getting excellent sound.

sbayne

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Adamaley - You're right, no dedicated DAC. The Touch meets my current needs for digital which is: convenience. The internal DAC does 96/24 decoding and it has a nice interface. The analog outs sound fine. I'm just addicted to analog I guess.

sbayne

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I'm just looking for the best speaker for my room and equipment. The doesn't mean the Devores and Altecs are not excellent speakers. The Salks just seem to load the back enclave area in my room better. I think it has to do with the large open baffle midrange in the Archos.

sbayne

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System edited: I've been enjoying the Salk Archos in my system. They are very tube friendly at 94db and the open-baffle design throws a huge, balanced soundstage.

sbayne

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Thanks John. Much better imaging and bass impact!

sbayne

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System edited: Now using a pair of Devore Nines. Not as much bass as the Altecs but a more balanced sound with a slightly better soundstage.

sbayne

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Like all of Shindo's products, the first impression I had of the Shindo TT in my system was he obviously spent hours and hours refining the mechanics and ultimately the sound. I own another very nice Garrard 301 set-up but the Shindo 301 truly is better. I know I've said this a number times before but the sound just seems too "relax" - all of the dynamics are there but it never makes you tired. I've heard a lot of systems which you can check-off all the requirements for good sound: solid bass, open midrange, clear treble, big soundstage, etc but in the end you don't want to listen for more than 15 minutes or so. Shindo is not like that at all, it hits you on a much more emotional level.

sbayne

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Thanks everyone for your kind words!

sbayne

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System edited: I've added the Shindo 301 to my system and CH Audio Design field coils to my Valencias. Not much to say other than these are major steps forward.

sbayne

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Thanks Mjcmt. I've been around this hobby for many years. I'm starting to realize the way to improve a sound system is not through whiz-bang electrical engineering but through time-tested changes in the mechanical aspect of reproducing sound. In the Altecs for example, the winding of the voice coil, the quality of diaphram, the ratio of woofer to horn size, cabinet resistance (how much it flexes) and many other factors all add to the sound of the Altecs. Thats why I've been drawn to Shindo equipment. I've never met the man but its obvious Shindo understands this is as much art as it is science. He refines well-known, time-tested designs. Nothing fancy. Just a lot of hard-work and passion for music. I now realize the "old" Altecs made a lot of musical sense back in the 1960s and still do today.

sbayne

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Hi, still with the Valencias. Remarkable how good these are with the Shindo amps I have.

sbayne

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Hi, I have a F2A Cortese as well so that is what I'm currently using for an amp. I'm just trying to raise some money to perhaps go into a pair of Shindo speakers or Shindo turntable. Scott

sbayne

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Thanks Ken. I have not tried the bass busters although I probably will at some point in time.

sbayne

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Think of this way: they shoot across the width of the room not the length - so they shoot across a 15' distance. What you see in the pictures is an enclove where my equipment and albums sit which then opens into a much bigger area that extends 35' in length. The short answer to your question is yes I would use Altec Valencias in a fairly large room because that horn and woofer need room to breath.

sbayne

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Mine shoot into a room thats about 35' long and 15' wide with 10' ceilings. The speakers sit out about 5' from the front wall. I sit just in front of the back wall which puts me about 9'-10' away from the speakers. I messed with the toe-in a lot. Finally decided on toe-in point that falls just in front of my listening position. Hope this helps.

sbayne

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The Harbeths are excellent speakers. I could have lived with them much longer if I had not found these Valencias locally and given them a try. Its fairly obvious Ken Shindo uses speakers like Altec to voice his amps. I can't say the Valencias sound better in any particular area than the Harbeths but I can say they just sound "right" with my Shindo amps - thats the only way I know how to explain it.

sbayne

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System edited: OK, I did it - I bought a Shindo SET amp. I found locally a primo pair of Altec Valencia 846A speakers so I just had to try a Shindo SET. The overall tone and balance of the sound is excellent. I still think the Shindo Sinhonia F2a mono amps offer a better defined bass than the Cortese but with the Altecs the Cortese just sounds a little better through the treble and upper midrange - its a very close call though. Also, I went back to the Olive music server in my main system. I still listen mostly to analog but it is nice to have your whole CD collection at your fingertips.

sbayne

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Bnrlaw: Just to add a couple more thoughts on your question. The top end on the Sinhonias is very refined - much like a good SET amp. However, you can drive pretty much any speaker you want with them. With these amps there is really no reason to go to a higher efficiency speaker. The Harbeth 40.1 are excellent performers top to bottom which mate well with the amps so that is why I went with them.

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You wanted to know where I stand on the high eff/low power debate. Personally, I think its hard to get the lower midrange and bass right without sufficient watts which usually means push/pull designs. Thats not to say SET amps, when mated with the proper speakers or horns, cannot have excellent low ends i.e. Shindo's field coil speakers. I may eventually end up owning a pair of Devore, Living Voice, Audio Physic or something similar. I'm not sure I would go to a Shindo Cortese or 300b amp though - I would probably keep the Sinhonias. But, of course, I never say never when it comes to audio.

sbayne

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Bnrlaw: the Sinhonia monos work well with many speakers as long as the load remains relatively stable. In my system, for instance, they have no trouble driving the 40.1 which are rated at 85db into 6 ohms. I auditioned the Super HL5s and the 40.1 are in a different league - they should be based on the price. All areas of performance, not just the bass, are better in the 40.1.

sbayne

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Doc_stereo: how do the Shakti Hallographs "work" is a question I can't answer. The manufacturer claims they contour the frequency, amplitude and time coefficients of the reflections you hear. Based on my experience I have no reason to doubt that claim.

sbayne

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All the kind words are truly appreciated. thanks.

sbayne

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As you have probably read the bass with the 40.1s is the hardest thing to get right. I've spent a lot of time on positioning the speakers and adjusting the Shakti Hallographs. At this level of performance everything seems to make a difference but thats part of the fun!

sbayne

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System edited: Major update to system. Went to Shindo amps to match my preamp. The Harbeths go very well with the Shindo equipment. Best tone, attack, decay, resolution and overall musicality I have yet heard. Big bucks but it was worth it.

sbayne

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Lapierre, moving-up the Shindo line of preamps has been my best decision. I have built my system around that preamp by adding the very Shindo-like turntable/cartridge combo and Au23 Homage step-up. With that front-end and preamp the music just flows. There is no need to dissect the sound - it just plays music. I've tried a number of different power amps, including a Shindo that was very good, but they did not make as much difference as the preamp. Macdadtexas: I've actually taken all digital out of my system.I'm totally into analog at the moment. I may put my AudioNote transport and Havana DAC up for sale - not that they are bad but I'm getting spoiled by the analog side of things....

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I recently added Hi-Fi Tuning Silver fuses to the amps and broke them in with over 48 hours of music playback. The improvement in the sound was substantial. So I decided to add another 48 hours of break-in to the AU 23 step-up by using Granite Audio's MC disc. My system has never sounded better. I really think the higher-end caps and silver wire need lots of playing time. I had hundreds of hours on my system before but now the tone, body of the sound and bass is simply more realistic. Want a super cheap tweek?: play your system! :-)

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Macdadtexas, I did a lot of tube rolling in the Havana as well. The Russian 6N3P that has gotten so much talk on the boards is very good and depending on your taste may be a little better than the Western Electric 396A. The Havana lets you hear ever change in tubes which is a sign of the quality of the product.

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System edited: Major changes to the system over the last few months. I added the Auditorium 23 Homage T1 step-up which took the analog playback to yet another level - truly remarkable. The Havana DAC is so good its hard to imagine a better DAC at any price. Finally, the V-Cap upgrades in Will Vincent's amps was also a revelation. This hobby is never ending and that is what makes it fun for me!

sbayne

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Agreed on the amp. Just have to save my pennies.

sbayne

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Hi Mike, the Shindo Mr. T makes a noticeable improvement through out my system, even on the non-Shindo gear. Just can't beat those Shindo transformers! It does concern me a little that there is no surge/spike protection but I do have a rider on my insurance for my system which includes it. I haven't had to use it yet but probably some day.....

sbayne

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System edited: Complete overhaul of the system. This is the most musical yet.

sbayne

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Updated system with a Wavelength Crimson USB DAC - the sound is actually getting close to analog!

sbayne

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Hi, I've been messing around with the Keces USB DAC which costs about $250 and I assume is made in China. After about 50 hours the sound settled down. It also responded positively to a Black Sand Violet power cord. The "upgrade" that really surprised me was a USB cable I picked-up at Staples office supply that has gold plated ends and extra shielding. That USB cable added a little more authority to the bass and seemed to open-up the midrange. I have my sights set on a Wavelength DAC but for now the Keces is very good. Scott

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Just wanted to add a few more words about the Shindo equipment. I've gotten a number of emails "off-line" asking for instance: whether it’s worth the expense, if you must use high-efficiency speakers, if you can buy it cheaper in Japan, etc. I am going to repeat my responses here to hopefully start a constructive dialogue. Please just let me say I am not an expert on Shindo gear. All I can tell you is MY experience. First and foremost I can say it’s the best sounding gear I've had in my system - you simply forget about hi-fi and listen to music. So the next question is what are you willing to pay for that type of musical experience in your home? Obviously, I decided it was "worth it." In fact, I have changed most of my system around, at a fairly significant expense, to accommodate the Shindo gear. As to going the high efficiency - SET route - all I can say is the Haut Brion amp is not an SET configuration and I could not imagine any speaker with a reasonable load that could not be driven extremely well by this amp. Forget the power rating. I technically need a more "powerful" amp for my speakers but I don't think I'm being short-changed in anyway. As to buying it for half-price or even less in Japan all I can say is "good luck" because you are going to need it. From what I can figure you would have to fly to Japan, buy the gear, ship it back, modify the transformers for US voltage or use a cheap voltage converter and live with no warranty or dealer support. If you want to go to that expense and take that chance then go for it. Personally, I think it’s foolish. Enough said on that subject and please no more emails from people who I don't think own Shindo gear but are more than happy to tell me I got ripped-off buying it from a US dealer! Finally, just want to say Shindo will get you back into your analog collection. Digital gear has come a long way but vinyl through Shindo is still a step above it in my opinion. Best regards, Scott

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Joel, it must be the lens I used - the speakers shoot straight ahead. The Shindo gear is very good on its own but together they go up another notch. Thanks for the kind comments. Scott

sbayne

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Thanks Matt. The Shindo gear is truly excellent. Anyone reading this: check out Pitch Perfect Audio. Matt Rotundo is the owner. He provides excellent service, has great gear and is a super guy to deal with. Scott

sbayne

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Thanks Ken. The Shindo equipment has really gotten me back into analog. Amazing what a good set of transformers can do for a preamp! Take care and stay in touch.

sbayne

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Thanks! The Olive turned out to be much more musical than I expected it would. I have to admit using a decent music server as a high-end source is in no way a compromise. I currently have my eye on some DAC units so the system may be changing......we shall see. Best regards, Scott

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