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December 2024
Replaced the Oppo UDP-205 with the T+A DAC 200

April 2024
Moved the GIK Monster Bass traps from back wall to front of the room to control bass. This tightened the bass as well as opened up the mid-range and treble notes. Did not realize that the change would be so profound. Should have done this years ago.

Feb-2024
Added another Puron filter

Jan-2024
Added a Puron filter

Oct-2022
Added the Mazda 1960s grey plates 12AU7 to the Rhumba. They opened my eyes (and ears) as to why people are ready to pay so much for NOS tubes.

Aug-2022
Added Isoacoustic mini-pucks beneath the Inakustik and audio server.
Added a custom built audio server to replace the aging Asus laptop. I did not realize how much profound effect a dedicated server has on the quality of the sound.

Oct-2021
Added the ISO-puck mini under the Backert Labs Rhumba 1.3 and Oppo UDP-205.
Added Isoacoustic Carpet spikes for Gaia II.

Aug-2021
Added the AudioQuest Foglifters. Initially added for "looks" and cable dressing. But found that it adds finesse and delicacy to instruments in the music. My guess is the contact area of the cable from the original wooden raisers has reduced more than 90% and that might be the reason. I am happy.

July-2021
Added the GIK 242 ceiling panel that balanced the sound from the left speaker, that was getting missed due to the unavoidable soffit in the room. So much to learn from your own experience.

Dec-2020
Purchased the Fidelizer PRO. This has immensely changed the listening experience. Folks using a Windows machine should certainly give a shot to the free version. You have nothing to loose except 5 minutes. The best part of free version is it is an exe files that you run and not install. So if you don't like it, just delete the .exe.

Oct-2020
Upgraded Asus K52 with a Asus S400CA, 8GB RAM and 1TB SSD. Again, this is an older laptop repurposed for audio. Also added a NAS server and all audio files are on that server. Connection to this server is via ethernet and not wifi. Evaluating the free version of Fidelizer which makes very audible, positive change in my system.

Jul-2020
Repurposed an old laptop for streaming Spotify/Qobuz and also digital files. The laptop was upgraded from 3GB to 8GB RAM and from 250GB HDD to 1TB SSD for DSD and FLAC files. Installed Foobar2000 with Eole skin on the laptop to play the digital files. Using an old iPad mini 2 tablet with MonkeyMote to control this laptop remotely. Love this app!
Installed the Inakustik Reference High Speed USB between the laptop and Oppo 205, which is now used as a DAC.

Jun-2020
Added Inakustik NF-2404 XLRs between Oppo-Backert and Backert-Parasound.
Will try to find some time to do a mini review of these cables, if I find time. These cables pull you into the music way too much.

Mar-2020
Added Inakustik LS-2404 AIR biwire loudspeaker cables

Nov-2019
Added the IsoAcoustics Gaia II footers to the ProAcs

Jun-2019
Added the Inakustik AC-3500p power conditioner in the system.

Nov-2018
Replaced the Promitheus Reference C-core TVC with Backert Labs Rhumba 1.3 preamplifier

Jan-2018
Replaced the Quad 21L with the ProAc D48R in Ebony.

October-2017
Replaced the Teac CD-1000 SACD player with Oppo UDP-205 universal disc player.

September-2015
Replaced the Marantz SACD player with Teac CD-1000.

May-2015
New room finished in April. Room is 19 X 15 X 8. Three walls were already in place (concrete). Had the 4th wall built with double drywalls inside/outside and using GreenGlue. 2 dedicated 10gauge 20 amp lines for amps and electronics. Speakers are 4 feet from back wall and 3 feet from side wall. Placement of speakers, chair, panels etc are within 1/8th inch tolerance. Replaced Signal Cable power cables with Cullen Cables Crossover Series power cords, because I needed longer and flexible cables.

Feb-2015
Replaced Signal Cable Silver Resolution RCAs between Marantz and TVC with Clear Day's RCA cables.

Sep-2014
Replaced Signal Cable Silver Resolution XLR between TVC and amp with Clear Day's XLR cables.

Aug-2014
Replaced the Signal Cable Silver Resolution bi-wires with Clear Day Double Shotguns and jumpers between HF and LF speaker terminals.

04-Dec-2013:
Replaced original wooden footers under TVCs with Ebony footers. Simply unbelievable - what they did.

February 2012 - September 2012:
Been exited to have a dedicated room for this "passion". This word was emphasized by a female family friend. She was amazed by how passionately I could go on and on about this hobby. She likes classical music. Soon after we moved into our first home, I did post some questions on this forum about french doors. Those are in place now and I am happy with their looks. Per my wife (touch wood), I need to place something on the door panels for preventing reflections and maintaining privacy. Her support for me in this hobby has been outstanding and I would not have reached this far, if not for her. So, that treatment on the door will come sometimes later this year. This is a small room with 13.5'X12.5'X9' dimensions. I painted this room myself (first time, never did this before). The speakers are placed along the shorter wall. They are 40" from front wall and about 30" from side walls. They are about 7' apart with some toe-in. I sit slightly more than 7' away. All measurements are within 1/10" error. Finding the optimum position for speaker took me about 24 to 30 man hours. Though this is painful, the outcome of this exercise is mind-boggling. Got some granite to go between the floor and speakers. These are 18"X18"X1.5". This has tightened the bass and has provided necessary isolation from the wooden floor below. At the same time, added Herbie Audio Lab's Extra Thick Hush Puckies under the speaker spikes and the granite. This causes the speaker to not "ring" and provides stability to the speakers, because of the dBNeutralizer base. Since this is my own space, I added some treatments from GIK. Bryan Pape at GIK was very helpful and actually told me to go easy on the treatments. We started with 2 Tri-traps on the corners and 2 Monster Panels on the back wall directly behind the listening position. I liked the way the bass tightened up. Bryan suggested the 244 instead of 242s on the first reflection panels to take care of any phase issues as well. And that has turned pretty nice. Also got the terminations on the speaker wires changed from spades to BFA bananas. I am totally sold on the BFAs. Superb contact and fit. Some of you advised me to move the equipments from between the speakers. Though I could not do it 100%, what I did was, to disassemble the rack and use the shelfs on the floor directly. But the resulting change in the sound staging is simply fantastic. I never imagined that a rack placed between 2 speakers can mess the soundstage. With all this in place I did miss some "meat" in my system. But I thought it was the size of the room that was causing the nulls and there was probably nothing I could do. What finally brought "life" in my system was the new XLRs between the preamp (TVC) and the amp. The move from RCA to XLR in my system was nothing short of drastic. I have mentioned this on this site as well as a forum dedicated to Parasound Halo products. Apparently, there was not enough gain in my system and so the "meat" was missing on the bones, if you will. This was not so obvious in the previous apartment room, since it was small and the speakers used to be closer to the walls. In the near future, I would like to add 3 242 GIK panels on the front wall, behind the speakers. Will first experiment with the existing Monster Panels on the front wall.


March 2010:
The Parasound amp has changed my system profoundly. I cannot believe the transparency and expansiveness it has brought into my system. And it seems a very good match for my TVC as I set the TVC volume to lower levels than my previous amp.

April 2009: Added the Promitheus TVC, which took my system to an altogether different level. I did not imagine of such a performance from my system. Looking for a good power amp now. Want a power amp with high sensitivity and power - to match the TVC and also in case I upgrade my speakers at a later time.

August-2005
It took many listening sessions, forums, mags, etc to build this starter system. Was worth every minute spent for building it. Started with recommended components list - but ended with what my ears liked.
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Room Details

Dimensions: 19’ × 15’  Medium
Ceiling: 8’


Components Toggle details

    • ProAc Response D48R Loudspeakers
    Ebony with Ribbon tweeter.
    • Parasound A21
    250 watts RMS x 2, 20 Hz - 20 kHz,8Ω, Class AB Sensitivity: 1 V for 28.28 V
    • Backert Labs Rhumba 1.3
    Tube preamplifier with 2 X 12AU7 tubes
    • T+A DAC 200
    True 1-bit converter - processes DSD files in their native form
    Uses 4 32-bit Burr-Brown converters per channel for PCM processing
    • Custom build Audio Server Audio Server
    Custom built audio server for streaming FLAC/DSD files and also other streaming services. Based on Streacom FC10 Alpha chassis. Running HQ Player for converting files to DSD 512
    • Signalyst HQ Player
    High quality file processor/player for converting FLAC files to 512 DSD
    • Inakustik Reference Power Station AC-3500P
    Power Conditioner
    • Inakustik LS-2404 Air
    Bi-wire speaker cables
    • Inakustik NF-2404 Air
    XLR Cables
    • Inakustik Reference High Speed USB
    USB cable
    • Inakustik 2502F
    Power Cord
    • Furutech FI-28(R)/FI-32(R)
    • Cullen Cables Crossover Series 10 AWG
    Amplifier Power Cord
    • Cullen Cables Crossover Series 12 AWG
    SACD player power cord
    • IsoAcoustics Gaia II
    Isolation footers for loudspeakers
    • IsoAcoustics Gaia II Carpet Spikes
    Carpet Spikes for the Gaia II
    • IsoAcoustics ISO-puck mini
    Footers under the preamp and DAC
    • AudioQuest Fog Lifters
    Cable dressers and system enhancers.
    • World Market Kendall Chair
    Very comfortable chair. Suede. No support directly behind the head which means sound is not distorted. I was searching for something like this for quite some time. I looked at some LC2 and LC3 knock-offs. But they were all leather that could reflect sound. Chocolate color which also matches the GIK panels.
    • GIK Acoustics Tri-Trap
    For front corners behind the speakers, in coffee color.
    • GIK Acoustics Monster Bass Trap
    Mounted on the wall behind listening seat.
    • GIK Acoustics 244 Bass Trap
    Absorption panel in Coffee color, mounted at first reflection points, that also takes care of phase related issues. Plan to get 2 more to go in the center of the room behind the speakers.
    • GIK Acoustics 242 broadband panel
    2' X 2' absorption panel
    • Porterhouse Audio Porter Ports
    • Puron
    Power filter
    • Apple iPad Gen 9
    iPad 9th generation for controlling Foobar2000 using MonkeyMote, Spotify and Oppo UDP-205 remote.

Comments 308

Owner
@sbank
 Thank You sir! Yes the Backert and the Inakustik are amazing. I am impressed with both and the tech that they bring to the table.
The Backert is my first foray in the "tube" world. despite using it since 2018, I found only a couple of months ago that vintage tubes also need a break in. I purchased a pair of 5814A Raytheon Windmill from Brent Jesse and after 4 hours of listening I decided to exchange for a better/pricier tube. He insisted me to keep them and leave them on for 1/2 a day. I did better - I left them ON for a day and that completely transformed the sound. From dull and ok presentation to "very lit" and "delicious". I could not believe what I was hearing and asked Brent. Here is his explanation:

There is science behind the break in.  When the tube sits for more than a year, you get some outgassing of internal components.  This gas can carry a current when the tube is in operation, and it affects the sound.  The getter flash (silver or dark material on the top of the tube) absorbs this gas when heated,  by oxidation during break in, and it can be a slow process.  A tube that has sat for 8 months will also need break in, even if broken in 8 months ago.

For the price I wanted to get a second pair of Raytheons to keep them handy - just in case. Alas, they are sold out!

milpai

Beautiful rig, @milpai ! Bet it sounds wonderful.
I'm particularly fond of the Backert preamp. Andy used to bring their prototypes to my place during voicing to listen on my Soundlab electrostatics. Not many companies go to the lengths they do to maximize SQ with a variety of gear. 
The Inakustik loom is mighty impressive. I have their USB cable, which beat many pricier contenders in my rig. I suspect their US presence will continue to increase as more hear it. 
Now I need to research the Puron filter. You might cost me money! Cheers,
Spencer


sbank

Got the message.
Yes.
You and real nice system and an awesome listening room. I’m jealous. 

hbarrel

Owner
@tomaswv ,
Thank You for the compliments. I sincerely appreciate it 🙏
I will eagerly wait to hear about your experience with the carpet spikes. 

milpai

Thanks. I’ve ordered the spikes for my Gaias.  Allow me to compliment you on your system and on your listening room. The system seems extremely balanced and complete, especially with the GIK bass traps and panels.

tomaswv

Owner
@tomaswv ,
From my experience, the mid bass and bass both tightened up and gained clarity. For me, the spikes were completely worth it. You are right - the Gaias really improve the sound, especially stabilizing the images, and hence increasing the clarity of the soundstage.
My system is in the basement, where I have carpet + pad on concrete and the spikes are in contact with the concrete floor after piercing through both. I hope this helps.

milpai

Can you say more about the Gaia carpet spikes? I have my Dali Mentor 6 floorstanders on Gaia iiis and they really improved the sound. But I didn’t get the spikes— not sure the spikes are long enough to go through the carpet and tater think pad.  Can you comment on the Gaias before and after the spikes? Many thanks.

tomaswv

Owner
@mgrif104 ,
I can believe you that the T+A SDV 3100 is on a completely different level than any sources you had before. I am not saying this because of how much it costs. I am saying this because I have experienced that the DAC 200 can do, and can only imaging how much listening pleasure the SDV 3100 might be providing.
Cheers!

milpai

@milpai 
The new DAC is spectacular. I was pretty happy with the DAC 200 - still am - and have moved it to a 2nd system. But the SDV 3100 is truly another level. Frankly, it sounds like hyperbole to say it, but I believe it’s significantly better than the Ideon Absolute and Linn Klimax DSM/3. To me at least.
Best,

mgrif104

Owner
@mgrif104 ,
Thank You for the kind words. I love your system and had posted last year, when you shared the picture. How do you like the upgraded DAC?

milpai

Just a beautiful and well thought out system and room. Nicely done!

mgrif104

Owner
Thank You for the kind words William. Congratulations on acquiring an analog rig to your setup. I hope you are having a great time listening to your music! Cheers and have fun!

milpai

You have assembled a truly nice audio system and I am sure it sounds sublime. I admire the dedication you have taken to really get high fidelity sound. I finally bit the bullet and added an analog rig to my audio room in 2025. Happy Listening! William

2psyop

Owner
Thank You for the kind words @honeyooi
I never had a turntable before and will not be getting one in the future.

milpai

Very nice room and gear there, cozy too .
Maybe add turntable in a future ?

honeyooi

Owner
Thank You for the kind words @benzman . Yeah, about that single chair - 90% of the time, I listen to my stereo and only occasionally the family comes in to listen or check out.

Did you get a chance to try HQ Player with your T+A DAC?

milpai

Great pics!!  System looks sweet, bet it sounds the same way. Love the one chair!

benzman

Great pics!!  System looks sweet, bet it sounds the same way. Love the one chair!

benzman

Owner
Not sure what is going on, but Spotify is sounding ridiculously good tonight with extended highs and very good clarity. No new updates for the desktop apps or tablet app,and yet it sounds so good tonight.

milpai

Owner
Added new pictures, after moving panels from back wall to the front sides, to manage bass and improve mid-range and treble. Huge improvement, that motivated to update system pics.

milpai

Owner
I am not sure what technology the Puron uses. But after adding the second one, it increased the soundscape even more. It also brought some more liveliness to the overall sound and made the music more engaging. I would handily recommend this to anyone who wants a noticeable improvement in their system.

milpai

Owner
Thank You @jheppe815, for the kind words. Your system looks fabulous with the all McIntosh gear. Pretty cool. And you got a nice size room to go with that. I would love to get a room as big as what you have.

milpai

Wow, this is an outstanding system and presentation with great attention to detail.  Excellent job!

jheppe815

Owner
jafant,
Oh I wish it was easy making that decision. I never had the Marantz SA-10. I am currently taking my own sweet time to finalize a DAC. I have moved away from discs in July-2020. The Oppo UDP-205's disc mechanism has not been used since then. It is being used only as a DAC.
If Marantz would come up with a DAC that is exactly like the one they have in the SA-10, but without the disc playing capability, that would be on top of the list along with the T+A DAC 200.
I understand that there might might be some new launches during AXPONA 2024 or Munich 2024, especially with the new AKM DACs. Nothing wrong with the ESS DACs. But since I already have one with ESS, I would like to experience a AKM or something on the lines of T+A or Teac's own Delta Sigma. The Teac is tempting, pricewise, but I am not sure if it keeps DSD pure or converts to PCM on playback.

milpai

A beautiful room and system! Where did the Marantz SA-10 Reference Player go?

Happy Listening!

jafant

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