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My system currently comprises the following components:

MBL 111E Speakers

MBL 6010D Preamp

MBL 1621 Transport

MBL 1611 DA Converter

MBL 9008 Power Amplifiers

Rockport Capella 2 Air Bearing/Vacuum T.Table

Rockport 7000 Air Bearing Arm

Clearaudio Insider Reference Wood Cartridge

Kondo M7 KSL Phono Stage

Kondo ANScz Step Up

Kondo LPz Interconnects

Kondo SPz Speaker Cables

Shunyata Power Conditioner

Finite Element Pagoda Master Reference Stands

Kondo, Nordost,Gryphon & NBS Power Cords.

Numerous tweaks eg Shakti Hollographs, Black Diamond Racing

footers, Aurios, Finite Element Cerapucs.

I have been involved in this Hobby and the pursuit of the Ultimate Sound for over 25 years and feel I have come round full circle. I started with powerful solid state amps (Krells, Gryphons, Classe, VTL, etc ) and Dynamic speakers ( Duntechs, Infinitys, Sonus Fabers as well as Apogees and Martin Logan electrostatics, Audio Notes etc ) I've owned over 30 pairs of high end speakers over the years.

I then got the Single Ended High Efficiency bug and worked my way up to a Kondo( Shinri 300B, M7 Silver preamp, M7 KSL Phono etc as well as an Audio Note DAC 5 and CEC TLO Transport ), with Avantgarde Duo Speakers.

I was very content for a while until one day I went to my Audio Dealer The Audio Connection here in Sydney Australia. Josef Riediger the owner who I've known for many years was setting up an MBL Reference System for another customer and asked if I would like to have a listen. Up to that time I had heard many good quality high end systems but none had tempted me from my Kondo and Avantgarde set up.

Unfortunately this fateful day was to be different. What I heard was so natural and musical it shocked me, particularly coming from powerful solid state amps and inefficient speakers. It was treading that fine line combining the best of valves and solid state. I couldn't sleep that night and realised I had to have that sound. As you can guess I ended up buying the complete MBL Reference system which had a synergy I couldn't get by mixing my beloved Kondo gear.

So here I am going full circle, as I never thought I would be going back to poerful transistor amps and inefficient speakers. However the MBL gear is unique and shows you can never generalise or have preconceived ideas.

The other amazing component I was lucky to purchase was the Rockport Capella air bearing T.Table and arm. Andy Payor does not know what compromise is. It absolutely embarassed my earlier T.Table which was not cheap. I would love to one day get a Sirius 3 which is the bigger brother to mine but I'm more than happy with the Capella.

As always there is a never ending search for perfection. Looking forward to your feedback.

Regards JZ
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Components Toggle details

    • MBL 111E Speakers
    Full Range Speaker
    • MBL 6010D Preamp
    Full Function Preamp
    • Rockport Technologies Capella mkII LE
    Capella II Air Bearing T.Table

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Jzach, well I decided to get the 101E's and placed my order last week and was told I should get them in about three weeks. I'm looking forward to getting them and once broken-in and once I'm happy with the set-up I'll have to introduce some MBL gear to compare. Right now the gear I have was a really nice match with the Eggleston's (actually just sold the Andra's last night) so I'm curious what they will sound like with the 101's.

dev

Hi Jzach I thought I would do a follow up regarding my listening experience of the 101's, I went and heard Exlibris system today. His room is actually smaller than yours, 18'X 12' with 7.5 ceiling height, set-up on the long wall. Very nice system, he had a unfortunate situation come up with his pre-amp causing him some issues so I did not get to listen to his ideal set-up so we had to make do and I brought my ARC Ref3 but it doesn't have a built-in phono so he hooked-up another external phono he had on hand.

I'm not a vinyl guy but Redbook cd so unfortunately I was not able to listen to pieces that I'm very familiar with but the pieces I did hear was very nice. Totally different from my listening experience.

Over all this is what my thoughts are;

The stage presence was a more realistic experience than my current set-up like you are there within the performers, notice I refer to within and not just there.
What I noticed while was that his RIGHT speaker did not have the same space allowance beside it as the LEFT speaker did so the LEFT speaker images allot better along with producing images clearly outside the speaker which is absolutely amazing but on the other hand the right speaker did not do so. My conclusion regarding set-up is that these speakers ideally need to be balanced on both sides equally, I suspect 4-6 feet would be ideal with no obstacles in the way. With my current speakers I do not have these same issues to deal with because they don't throw off a 360 dispersion pattern.

The images within the stage are realistic holographs with air around the performers which I really enjoy but I'm sure others would find fault some where. The voices sounded very realistic along with instruments. I have been told to be aware as the speakers can sound disjointed, the drivers not matching, I did not find there to be any issue with this.

I can't wait to hear them again once Exlibris pre is back in. I also brought a Stealth Indra cable with me, we replaced a Cardas cable with it from the pre to amps and all I can say is WOW!

Once the Stealth cable was in place everything just changed, the stage presence was even more realistic, more precise everything just opened up, unbelievable is all I can say. Prior to us putting in the Stealth cable I found the sound not as precise as my current set-up, well guess what? not anymore and everything changed for the better. I was actually sitting off to the side initially for the first piece of music and could immediately hear the difference, when it was my chance to hear a piece that I had already heard I was very impressed and have to say the focus was now as good as mine or possibly better which absolutely shocked me.

All I can say is I'm am very fortunate that Exlibris offered me to hear his system which I appreciate greatly, guess what is on my list to get now?

but the only unfortunate part is I don't think they will be ideal to replace my current speakers do to my current set-up configuration. I'm in a similar situation although I do have a very large space but do to my open concept my right speaker the closes side wall is around 12'+ and my left speaker only 3-4' off a wall so I think I'll run into the same issue as what I heard today which I don't want. I have a designated room 28' X 23' with 9'3" ceilings which I believe these would be ideal for so I'm wondering if the 111E's would work in this set-up. So anyone with a pair of 111E's with the 12" bass not the two 10" drivers let me know.

dev

Thanks for the info. Jzach much appreciated, Exlibris another member who has a thread showing his system with the 101E's actually lives close to me so hopefully we will be able to hook-up so I can hear.

dev

Jzach thanks for the info. How far apart are they from the inside of the speakers.

How low do these go bass wise, do they need subs? I noticed another member who has the 111's has two subs set-up with them. When I listen too music that has low bass impact I like to feel it, to me bass is important as I feel it is the foundation of music.

So I should not be concerned about set-up, they are not that hard to set-up.

dev

Jzach nice looking set-up. I was in the past looking at getting a pair of 111E's to compare with my current set-up but after info I had received from others and reading some reviews that seem to be similar referring to the speakers being very difficult to set-up and if not set-up precisely then they sound awful along with being very sensitive to associated gear being used, needing to be in a room that is treated well and hard to drive I put them on a back burner. I don't go by what reviews say and the others feeding me their thoughts don't actually own them and you do so I have a few questions for you if you don't mind.

I noticed in your picture the right speaker is fairly close to a wall but can't tell from the pic regarding your left speaker, noticed they are quiet toed-in also.

What is your room layout and speakers set-up within?
How hard are they to actually set-up and to get amazing sound out of them?
How low do these go, bottom end?

My current set-up, this set-up is not my main designated room but a living room space which is fairly large with different height ceilings from 9ft to over 28ft.

Eggleston Andra 2's (replaced my W/P7's)
Pass X-600.5 mono blocks
Audio Research Ref3 pre
Accustic Arts Tube Dac
Oracle 2000 transport

I will say that I'm getting amazing sound right now but have always wondered what the MBL's would sound like and unfortunately there are no dealers around to be able to get a pair to listen to in my place never mind even being able to listen period.

Thanks

dev