I set up all seven Salon2s and the four Fathom F113s and the sound is earthshaking.

Wow. You were serious. That is some accurate deep bass you must have there. I bet Master and Commander opening scenes are impressive.

shadorne August 29, 2008 15:32

I might even have to add two or four more Salon2s to complete the entire design (one pair for each row of seats for a total of 9 or 11 speakers depending on if I do two or three rows).

Wow. You are so thorough. I am so impressed. How about a sub under each seat? ;-) (just kidding)

Or perhaps the Buttkicker ?

shadorne August 18, 2008 17:24

Good to see you still making progress. If you like percussion then a fun DVD is Black Eyed Peas "Live from Sydney to Vegas" - the Sydney concert is good sound quality - some seriously good drumming from Keith Harris and very little of the usual audio compression you normally get on music DVD's.

shadorne May 16, 2008 22:35

Thanks for posting more pics. Your new and impressive speakers look awesome. Glad to hear the WP8's completely solved your recessed mid range issues. I see you are planning to get Wilson surrounds too...the whole thing will be extreme all out; so of course I'll keep checking for updates. Thanks for sharing - I really appreciate those who take time to post many pics. Seeing a real system kind of adds a dimension or weight to your forum comments and posts. After all, many of us have heard many speakers in demos and can hence pronounce authoritatively on this or that ...but serious setups like yours (with extensive acoustic treatements) distinguish a serious listener/fanatic from a casual poster/gear collector who simply pushes their current favorite component (usually the last one purchased).

shadorne July 07, 2007 15:46

Funny you should mention Alan Parsons. One of the albums where I had more issues than others on certain songs was Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon

Yes, but you need to be aware that even Pink Floyd had different views about how "muddied" or loud the vocals should sound compared to the rest of the mix...so in this particular case it may be intentional and the 802D's were just telling the truth (i.e. what Alan Parson's/PF intended at the time).

See this Dark Side Interview

shadorne June 12, 2007 18:10

It was often nasally in that range and the vocals sunken behind the music

Well I agree that a forward mid range is much more desirable than a recessed mid. However, Alan Parsons uses the Nautilus 802 or the predecessor of the 802D in his studio so it can't be all that bad....perhaps more a matter of personal preference as you suggest!

I definitely enjoyed reading your reply and all about your system and the evolution. I look forward to future updates once you get the WP 8's. thx

shadorne June 12, 2007 06:32

No RT60 or waterfalls to share. I was really wondering how they would differ given all your bass trapping and extensive rear wall treatments?

BTW I was surpised about your 802D comments (lack of mid range/male vocals). I agree that the mid range is the critical piece in a speaker...all to often it is deliberately recessed by most manufacturers (so speakers have a bass and treble sizzle). Usually it is down to a dispersion problem....too narrow a dispersion in the mid range which gives a total sound field that is mid range weak. Other problems can be mid range compression - although I doubt that the 802 has this problem. Actually I was beginning to wonder if you might have overdone the dispersion/absorption in the mid range - you certainly have extensive side wall and ceiling treatments, as well as a carpet....all of which will really tone down the mid range! Have you considered this possibility?

shadorne June 11, 2007 20:46

Wow. One helluva room. I bet that sounds absolutely awesome! The extensive treatment at the rear is impressive. Do you have any before and after reverberation time plots?

shadorne June 11, 2007 00:37