Description

this room and system is the result of 10 years in High End audio. my system has been stable for a couple of years (except for transport and amplifier upgrades within the same brand). the room has been in the planning stage for about 18 months and i actually moved in a little over a month ago.

my audio philosphy is to have the system get out of the way of the event. i like as pure and simple a signal path as possible and, at this point, prefer passive to active gain stages. i love all the formats and enjoy having lot's of music.....vinyl is my favorite but i listen to at least 60% digital. the new room really reveals the benefits of SACD over redbook.

the system and room truely allow the event to be recreated before me. i love the way the speakers disappear and i am transported to another place/time.

i have choosen my cables, sources, amps, speakers to have as little of their own sound as possible.

recently, i upgraded my digtial transport from the modified Philips SACD 1000 to the new emmlabs CDSD.....this was a significant step upward in performance.

i have written an article in Positive Feedback regarding my room building experience.....here is a link;

http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue16/lavigneroom.htm
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Room Details

Dimensions: 29’ × 21’  X large
Ceiling: 11’


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    • Evolution Acoustics MM7's
    twin towers, 600 pounds each, main passive tower, 82 inches tall, active bass tower, 84 inches tall.

    passive main tower, 97db, 7 ohms, so easy load. active bass tower has 4 analog adjustments for ideal room integration.
    • darTZeel NHB-468
    Mono block Amplifiers. amazing first watt, transparent and rich tonality. great match for my speakers.
    • darTZeel NHB-18NS with 2 internal phono stages.
    battery powered preamp with 2 separate phono stages. uses BNC 'zeel' cables between pre and amps.
    • Evolution Acoustics 7.5 meter 'Zeel'
    7.5 meter pair of BNC cables from preamp to amps.
    • Evolution Acoustics 'System' speaker cables--10 feet
    new version of these cables, a big step over the amazing TRSC model i have used for 10 years. fantastic performance.
    • WADAX SA Reference DAC
    Wadax Reference Dac----state of the art dac with 2 separate power supplies. the best dac i have heard by a good margin. below is a link to a thread about my Wadax experience.

    https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/wadax-reference-dac-and-server-arrive.34173/#post-771357
    • WADAX SA Reference Server with Akasa optical interface
    ultimate state of the art music server using Roon. includes the Akasa optical interface.
    • WADAX SA Reference Server power supply
    additional chassis power supply to improve the Wadax server performance.

    https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/wadax-server-psu-unit-has-now-arrived.36722/page-6#post-948318
    • WADAX SA Akasa DC cables (3)
    replaces the standard DC cables. takes the performance of the Wadax Reference system to 'Level 4' for ultimate performance. Red in color.

    https://wadax.eu/akasa/

    https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/wadax-server-psu-unit-has-now-arrived.36722/page-9#post-971100
    • Arya RevOpod isolation footer (32 used under the 5 Wadax Chassis).
    height and tension adjustable. the Wadax dac, server, and server power supply chassis all use 8 footers, so it's critical to be able to adjust height and tension to have an even support for optimal performance. RevOpod's are unique in those attributes making them ideal for this use.

    https://www.arya-audio.com/revopod
    • CS Port LFT1 turntable w/arm
    air bearing platter and air bearing linear tracking arm; string drive with zero feedback dc motor, low pressure, low flow air system with zero noise air box.

    world class musical flow, nuance and delicacy, combined with authority and ease. serves the music completely.
    • Esoteric T1 Turntable
    magnetic drive/rim drive idler turntable with torque adjustment.

    with the deletion of my NVS turntable, i was able to move the Taiko Tana active isolation shelf to under the Esoteric T1. this has upgraded the performance of the T1 significantly. objectively small changes, but musically quite profound up tics in realism and immersion. more nuance, greater music focus, better bass articulation. 

    https://www.esoteric.jp/en/product/t1/top
    • Esoteric G1X Master Clock
    Master Clock Generator for speed improvement for the T1 turntable. significant improvement in music realism.

    https://www.esoteric.jp/en/product/g1x/top
    • Durand --Tosca tonearm.
    gimbal bearing design. Tosca is on the Esoteric T1 turntable
    • Primary Control 12" FCL tone arm
    Field Coil Loaded uni-pivot tone arm. with power supply. mounted on the Esoteric T1 turntable. amazing natural and very high resolution tone arm. link below.

    https://www.primarycontrol.nl/Field_Coil_Loaded_Unipivot_Tonearm.html
    • Glanz MH-1200S 12" tone arm
    12 inch tonearm, stainless steel. used for the Sumile mono cartridge.

    https://glanz.tech/e/collection/mh1200s1000s900s/
    • Experience Music/Intact Audio phono corrector + silver wound MC Trio SUT combo for three different tonearms.
    bespoke tubed phono preamplifier. silver wound, with custom dual power supplies.

    https://myemia.com/LR.html
    • LFD -3- Phono Cables DIN to RCA
    3 sets of very high performance phono cables. amazing performance. built by Dr. Richard Bews in the UK.

    one cable uses a DIN to RCA short Dongle + an RCA to RCA interconnect. the Dongle improves the performance of the DIN connection. details at the link below.

    https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/lfd-cables-phono-and-i-c-from-the-uk-cables-as-components.31243/
    • DaVa Reference cartridge
    field coil cartridge. with tube power supply.
    • two Etsuro Golds, ---a pair of Reference MC Phono Cartridges.
    duraluminim (A7075) body, 24 carat 'Kinpaku' Gold Leaf finish, diamond cantiliver. .3mv output, 4 ohms. these are both special versions of the Etsuro Gold.

    one is mounted on the CS Port linear tracker.

    one is mounted on the Primary Control FCL arm.

    finest cartridge i have heard by a significant margin. WOW!
    • Audio Technica MC-2022 60th Anniversary cartridge
    uses the unified stylus cantilever design. which results in extreme lack of distortion and linearity. remarkable neutrality and ability to dig out detail and keep it natural and musical.

    https://www.audio-technica.com/en-us/at-mc2022
    • Murasakino Sumile Mono phono cartridge
    MC cartridge for mono records, .04mv output. tracking force 3gms. finest monaural cartridge i have heard. competes on musical refinement with the top stereo cartridges. 

    https://murasakino.audio/en/products/sumile-mono.html

    Mounted on the Glanz MH-1200S tonearm. mounted on the Esoteric T1 turntable.
    • DS Audio Ion 001 Vinyl Ionizer
    generates positive and negative ions to remove static charge from vinyl records. 

    https://ds-audio-w.biz/products/181/
    • CS Port Static Eliminator IME1 (two of them)
    An unprecedented accessory focusing on cartridge friction. It suppresses the effects of static electricity and makes records clearer.

    one is on the CS Port tt, one on the Esoteric T1 tt.

    https://www.csport.audio/products/products-ime1-en.html
    • Stage III Concepts 1.5 meter XLR set of Gorgon interconnects.
    high performance interconnects. used from the Wadax Reference dac to the darTZeel preamp.

    http://aaudioimports.com/ShowProduct.asp?hProduct=283
    • Ampex twin ATR-102----one 1/4" and one 1/2" reel to reel master recorder
    hot rodded by ATR Service Inc----Andrew Kosobutsky. significant upgrades over stock. each interfacing with hot rodded Ampex MR-70 preamps. the new tape deck performance standard in my opinion.

    https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/ak-hot-rodded-ampex-atr-102s-w-mr-70-preamps-replaces-my-studers.36288/
    • Kosobutsky 1.5 meter set of RCA interconnects + 8 meter set of XLR interconnects.
    1.5 meter set of RCA interconnects are used between the EMIA phono corrector and the darTZeel preamp.

    8 meter set is used between the Ampex MR 70 tape preamps and the darTZeel preamp.
    • Nordost QRT QNET network switch
    Network switch, with Nordost Qsource power supply.

    https://www.nordost.com/qrt-audio-enhancers.php
    • Synology 30 Terabyte NAS (a pair = 60 TB) music file storage
    mirroring music storage for my music files.
    • Massif Audio Design Audio Racks, solid wood
    2--double wide 3 shelf racks for sources

    1 single wide rack 4 shelf rack for Ampex MR-70 tape preamp chassis.

    https://www.massifaudiodesign.com/racks
    • Nordost Sort Fut rack footers (3 sets of 4)
    mechanically tuned resonance control device. supporting the three Massif racks.

    https://www.nordost.com/sort-systems/sort-fut.php
    • Taiko Tana (5 of them) Herzan TS-150 (2) + TS-140 (3)
    active isolation under 5 separate components: (1) the NVS turntable, (2) the MSB dac, (3) the darTZeel preamp, (4 + 5) both darTZeel mono block amplifiers. custom modifications by Taiko Audio add a linear power supply plus panzerholtz top layer + Daiza platform to provide full frequency resonance attenuation to each platform.
    • Taiko Audio Daiza isolation platform--22 used in the system
    Panzerholtz Platform with spiral cutouts reducing mid and high frequency resonance while retaining life and energy and not changing tonality.

    22 Daiza platforms in the system of various sizes under every piece of the signal path.
    • Evolution Acoustics 'system' power cables
    a new version of the TRPC model i used on my darTZeel 468 mono blocks for the last 10 years. a big step up.
    • Sablon Audio King power cord
    used on the Wadax Reference Server power supply.

    https://www.sablonaudio.com/power
    • Absolute Fidelity power interfaces
    power cords specifically designed for either motors (tt and tape decks), amplifiers, and components. 11 in the system.
    • Tripoint Audio Troy Signature
    Grounding box for chassis grounding the darTZeel 458 mono block amplifiers + grounding the passive main towers of the Evolution Acoustics MM7 speaker system.
    • Tripoint Audio Elite
    Tripoint Elite grounding box. this does chassis grounding for my sources. it uses a a pair of Tripoint Thor SE Master Reference ground cables for my dart preamp and the MSB Select II dac. there are also 4 Signature Silver ground cables to the two arm boards of the NVS tt, the power supply of the NVS tt, and the SGM server.
    • Equi=tech 10WQ
    10kva balanced Isoltion transformer and distribution panel.
    • Furutech GTX-D NCF Rhodium duplex outlets
    10 in the system. used with 10 Furutech covers and frames. uses NCF (nano crystal formula) material to reduce noise by emitting negative ions.
    • Wave Kinetics A10 U8 decoupling footers
    8 sets-of-4 in the system for individual tuning of each piece of gear.
    • Auralex T-Fusor diffusers
    i use 20 of these. 6 each on the front side walls, and 4 each front ceiling and rear ceiling.
    • Klaudio Record Cleaning System
    automatic record cleaner
    • Acoustic Revive RL-30 mKIII CD-LP demagnatizer
    for demaging any disc.
    • Furutech DF-2 LP disc flattner
    will remove warps from Lps
    • Audiodharma Cable Cooker, Anniversary Ed.
    will cook any cables
    • Winds ALM-01 Stylus Force Gauge
    easy accurate, repeatable, measurments.
    • i-Tower by Koncept LED floor lamp
    (3) are used. best audio light ever. 2 'warm', 1 'cool'.
    • Quietrock THX 545 drywall
    specialized drywall with a 1/4" metal layer. used in my front sidewalls to establish proper room boundaries.
    • Barn.... ......room is....
    ....most of the ground floor. 29' x 21' x 11'.

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You are correct, I am using reagent water. Likewise, I am pretty sure that the difference between a gallon and 4.5 liters is negligable. With respect to the rinse, I continue to use my Loricraft; however, but for the cost I would buy another Audio Desk and use it exclusively to rinse. I have a friend who does that. I still remember my Crosby Quads quite fondly. I have had many different speakers since, but in retrospect none that surpasses the Quads in their areas of strength. For me the reliability finally became an issue.

fcrowder

Whart,

Thanks for your responses. I should note that I source the de-ionized water from a laboratory supply store also. The 4.5 liters came from the instructions provided with my AD and seems to raise the float to the top of the window. I would suggest that as an experiment (assuming that you still have access to the VPI) you rinse a record that you have previously cleaned on the AD using de-ionized or distilled water, playing it both before and after the rinse. If you hear no difference then continue using the full bottle of AD additive without rinsing. The AD is the single RCM that I have ever used; however, I have never found a record cleaning regime that does not benefit to some degree from a final rinse.

Fred

fcrowder

Mike,

Thanks very the prompt and extremely helpful answer. I followed the instructions and added the entire bottle of cleaning fluid to 5 quarts of water and the result is exactly as you have described. I will try reducing the detergent. The only time that I have any water left is when I change from 180 or 200 gram records to thinner issues. I think that the thicker records temporarily deform the wipers. They do adjust after a record or two.

I am unsure whether the de-ionized water is also distilled but I suspect that the de-ionization alone probably accomplished the same thing. I buy the de-ionized water at a laboratory supply store in a 20 liter carboy. It was the purest water that they sold, better than distilled according to them. Reagent grade I believe refers to the purity.

Fred

fcrowder

Mike,

I am generally a late adopter of new technology and have just bought an Audio Desk RCM. It is my impression that the sound of records that have been cleaned in the AD are improved by a rinse with reagent grade de-ionized water. Have you noticed this? Would you recommend using the AD with de-ionized water and not adding their fluid? Have you considered using photoflow in the new machine to aid sheeting?

Thanks in advance for any comments.

Fred

fcrowder

Mike,
Did you ever mount the MC Anna in the Sirius III? I am just wondering how the weight and compliance of the Anna will mate with my own Rockport. Thanks,

Fred

fcrowder

Mike,
I am one of the many that has had an MC Anna on order for an extended period. Do you have any information about when Ortofon will begin shipping the cartridges to thoose on the waiting list in the US? Your comments on the cartridge were the primary factor that led me to order one, although already owning an A90 was also a factor.

Thanks in advance,
Fred

fcrowder

Just a curiousity question. I am using the Ypsilon phono stage with their transformer recommended for the A90. Should that be optimal for the MC Anna? I am already on the list to get one.

fcrowder

I think that as each of us approaches retirement, it does result in a change of our priorities. I have also reached the point where I am reluctant to invest more money in my system unless the change makes a significant difference in my enjoyment. Too often we make changes which represent a lateral shift rather than a fundamental improvement. I have vicariously enjoyed your exploration of turntables and analog. If I have understood your posts, your perception is not that any one of the turntables excels over the others in all areas, but that each has its own strong points and that which a listener might choose is a matter of personal taste. I continue to hope that ultimately something will come along which represents the strengths of the other three. Strictly for the sake of simplicity, it would be nice to have one tables with multiple arms rather than multiple tables, each with a different arm. I have often thought that one of the greatest strengths/ weaknesses of the Rockport is its single arm. I know from experience with my Sirios that the arm prefers one particular range of weight/ compliance over others and thus favors certain cartridges over others.

fcrowder

I will note that Tbg had the unit in his system and concluded that its use in conjunction with a normal vaccuum machine such as the better VPI's was even better than either unit separately. It might be interesting to clean several records with the ultrasonic machine, listem to them, then clean them again with Mike's existing machine and re-listen

fcrowder

Just curious whether you have tried the Ortofon MC90 on the Rockport w/o damping? While I have not owned an Olympos, I am very familiar with the Titan i in the Rockport with various levels of damping. I have recently purchased an Ortofon MC90 and find it to be a very nice improvement over the Titan i in the Rockport, particularly in the top end.

fcrowder

I have watched this thread over an extended period and have found your insights often rewarding. Given that I have some familiarity with Albert's explorations of the Mk 2 and Mk 3, I am not really surprised by your results. One thing for others to keep in mind is that we ultimately are talking about a $20k turntable by the time that all the modifications are done with a motor/control assembly that are at least 20 years old and which cannot be serviced by the manufacturer. Don't misunderstand my comment as I am in similar straits with my Rockport. It does on ocasion require some upkeep and feeding.

Congratulations on a job well done.

On a separate point, have you had any experience with the Grand Prix TT?

fcrowder

I hope that you and perhaps some of the attendees will ppost your thoughts after the listening session.

fcrowder

I spoke at length with Andy and looked at CAD drawings of the Sirius 5. His current plan is to build the prototype by the end of this year and at that point determine the price. The date could well slip or the turntable never become a real product but Andy is generally good at follow up.

fcrowder

I was able to finally repeat your experience using the Acoustic Revive and did find that it enhanced the effect significantly.

On a separate front, I am very interested in your TT trials. I have heard the combination of the SP10 Mk 2/Panzer wood base, but not in my own system against the Rockport. I think that the combination might furher benefit from positioning on a Halcyonics isolation base.

fcrowder

Save yourself, some time effort and money and speak with Albert Porter about TT recommendations. I think that you will find him to be an excellent and unbiased source of information.

fcrowder

Re: The Tourmaline De-Ionizer

Why is it that it is so easy to discount tweaks and equipment that offer a high ratio of value to cost? Case in point, the Tourmaline De-Ionizer praised by Mike as a low cost, very effcetive method of improving the sound from CD's and vinyl. For those of you who have not seen this contraption, it looks like a hair dryer with a large funnel attached to the end. Further examination of the funnel shaped attachment reveals a wire screen which holds a large number of 3-5 mm tourmaline beads and through which the heated air from the dryer passes and allegedly excites and harvests negatively charged ions emitted from the tourmaline. AT first blush, I thought that Mike had lost his marbles or was that his tourmaline beads; however, was I wrong. After auditioning a few of the Accoustic Revive products (most notably the RTP-2, I have developed a healthy respect for the properties of tourmaline, even if I fail to understand how it functions. The de-ionizer is in many ways similar in effect to the RTP-4, except that instead of working to condition AC, it works directly on the CD or record. The effect seems to be consistent and easily audible, but not night and day. In my system, it seems to remove a subtle layer of grit/haze around the instruments and to reduce low level noise enhancing both dynamics and low level detail and at the same time to make long term listeing more enjoyable by removing subtle irritants. On some material, it increases image height somewhat and improves focus. The positive effects seem more pronounced on vinyl. As Mike mentioned, the effect is not permanent and unfortunately dissipates toward the end of a record side. Your mileage may vary as I suspect that the effect will vary depending on theresolving power of the system.

fcrowder

I only wish that I could say that my purchases over the past two years had been revenue neutral, but between the Triolons and the new Audio Note balanced Kegons, this just has not been the case. Nonetheless, I would like to think that by purchasing in the used market where possible and actively seeking good prices on new items, I could recoup a majority of what I have spent in most cases.

fcrowder

Mike,

Thanks for the brief look into the recording session with Winston at your home. I hope that when you have the time, you will compose a longer article which can be printed in Positive Feedback that goes into greater detail with respect to that recording session. I think that most of us would find that very informative and well worth reading.

I should be receiving my tourmaline de-ionizer today or tomorrow and will comment further after I have the chance to do some listening.

fcrowder

Nice to hear from you again. For every one detractor, there are a multitude of others who enjoy your posts but never get around to posting a comment. Although I may not always agree with your comments, I always find them well thought out and thought provoking. Please continue posting as you have time.

fcrowder

A friend has recently been comparing various brands of audiophile grade connectors, both the male 3 prong connectors which go unto the wall and various IEC connectors. He recently tried the top of the line Oyade connectors which are $400 retail for the pair and the bodies of which are formed from carbon fiber. He comparewd these against the Oyade connectors immediately below them which are $220 and which appear to be exactly the same sans the carbon fiber body. The more expensive plug sounded significantly better, but is outrageously expensive, considering what you can buy connectors for at a hardware store. The point of this story and its relevance to Mike's comments about OPUS is the price which a manufacturer charges and the technology which he uses is immaterial. It either sounds good or it doesn't. It either works in your system to bring it closer to achieving what you seek or it does not. The rest is strictly an economic decision which each of us must make for themselves based on our priorities. In the case of OPUS, I do know that the carbon fiber enclosues for the networks are custom made in very small quantities. Based on Oyade plugs, I have to assume that these are not cheap. Likewise the build quality and quality of parts used is excellent and the time time required to custom tune each cable is costly. But again, this is not the point. The sound in your system is the point!

fcrowder