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There have been many updates starting with the upgrade to Legacy Valor speakers & Wavelet v1 in June 2020, moving to Wavelet v2 later and continuing on through various upgrades across the entire system through February 2024.  The combined effect of all these upgrades is a significant up-leveling of all aspects of system playback and musical realism.

Many system configurations have come and gone since the 1970s growing up.  

My first exposure to RTR Tape and Vinyl as well as playing music was with my father who had a local jazz swing band, played trumpet & piano and arranged music. He taught me the love of playing and listening to great music, how important it was in life and so much more.

Many thanks to the countless people I have spoken with, read posts from, interacted with and learned much from over the years. The system has attained a state of organic and natural qualities and pure enjoyment of music that I have sought for a very long time and I'm very grateful to have it all.


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Room Details

Dimensions: 17’ × 14’  Medium
Ceiling: 8’


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    • Overall Photos System Views....
    Various photos of the system....
    • Overall cable layout Elrod, Tubulus and Shunyata Research cables...
    Various photos of the cable management method and layout...
    • Legacy Audio VALOR
    Valor is an amazing speaker and these are built such that I need 4-channels of external amps to drive midrange & mid-bass via one set of binding posts and treble via a separate pair of binding posts for ultimate flexibility and resolving power.

    I had heard these many times since their introduction and since; my dream of owning them has finally come true!
    • Legacy Audio Wavelet V2
    The new Legacy V2 Wavelet platform with updated VALOR speaker Wavelet algorithms including Room Correction and active 4-way crossover and the latest Legacy-Boehmer "Stereo Unfold Technology" (SUT) which is groundbreaking sound!
    • Townshend Audio Seismic Isolation Podiums
    Custom size & weight configuration for Legacy Valor collaboration with Townshend Audio.  The results far exceeded even the highest expectations that I had.
    • Esoteric Audio Master SoundWorks C-02X Preamplifier
    An amazing SOTA dual-mono preamp containing technology and know-how derived from the development of the Grandioso C1 preamp...
    • Esoteric Audio S-02 Master SoundWorks Stereo Amplifier (2)
    A beautifully built and sounding stereo amplifier based upon the Grandioso S1 and identical build to it except for the Grandioso case work and binding posts.
    • Esoteric Audio Grandioso P1 Transport and Power Unit
    Grandioso P1 and PSU power chassis, a 2-channel SOTA transport
    • Esoteric Audio Grandioso D1 Dual Monoblock DACs
    Dual-mono separate chassis SOTA DAC implementatkon
    • Cybershaft OCXO (Type-2 curated) Premium Ltd V2 10 MHz Masterclock
    The best clock of any kind I've had in my system including many worthwhile contenders.  This 10 MHz master clock has the lowest phase noise, lowest effective jitter and most profound effect on sound quality of any out there!
    • Shunyata Research Everest 8000 with Chassis Ground plane
    An outstanding power conditioner on its own. Propels the system forward in terms of ultra quiet black backgrounds and detail plus musicality even more advanced than the prior combination of TRITON v3 and TYPHON QR.
    • Shunyata Research TYPHON T2_30amp
    A high bandpass power conditioner focused purely on noise filtering for incoming power being used as the inbound power hub for my Esoteric S-02 amps, C-02X pre-amp, HDPlexx LPSU, Legacy Audio Wavelet v2 and the power leads for the built-in amplication of each Valor speaker (2,250 Watts in each speaker as mine are built).
    • Shunyata Research Altaira SG-NR Signal Ground Hub (Zone1: Amps, Preamp and Legacy Wavelet)
    A great addition to the system, compliments the chassis grounding I already leverage via the chassis ground block on the Shunyata Triton v3 power conditioner.  The Altaira SG-NR hubs are allocated one per component-type "zone" in my system and serve to siphon internal circuit and component noise always present in any audio component that introduces subtle aberrations to the analog and digital signal flow.
    • Shunyata Research Altaira SG-NR Signal Ground Hub (Zone2: Esoteric Grandioso P1, P1PSU, dual D1 DACs)
    A second Altaira SG-NR Signal Ground hub to specifically isolate the signal grounding plane for my digital front-end components...
    • Shunyata Research SIGMA v3 SGC/CGC Ground Cables with STIS v3 terminations (20)
    Four 6-meter Sigma v3 cables used for chassis grounding for my Esoteric C-02X preamp, two S-02 amps to my TRITON v3's chassis ground plane.  Interchangeable Shunyata STIS v3 spades or bananas are used on the source and destination ends.

    The remaining fourteen Sigma v3 cables are all 1.5 meter and used for signal grounding multiple SG points of benefit on my Esoteric Grandioso P1, two D1 DACs, Esoteric C-02X preamp, two Esoteric S-02 amps and Legacy Audio Wavelet v2.  Signal ground cables are connecting to either Altaira SG-NR Zone-1 or Altaira SG-NR Zone-2 depending upon component...

    All signal ground cables are connected to components with Shunyata VTX-ag top of the line "ground tails".
    • Shunyata Research VTX-ag Ground Tails, various connector ends (14)
    Used with SIGMA v3 SGC VTX-ag ground cables for signal grounding multiple signal grounding points of benefit on my Esoteric Grandioso P1, two D1 DACs, Esoteric C-02X preamp, two Esoteric S-02 amps and Legacy Audio Wavelet v2.  Signal ground cables are connecting to either Altaira SG-NR Zone-1 or Altaira SG-NR Zone-2 depending upon component...

    All signal ground cables are connected to components with Shunyata VTX-ag top of the line "ground tails".
    • Shunyata Research Sigma v3 SGC/CGC Grounding cables with STIS v3 terminations (5)
    Used for chassis ground of my Esoteric Grandioso P1, P1PSU and two D1 DACs plus my Cybershaft clock to the chassis ground plane on my TRITON v3 power conditioner.  Lengths are 3-meter and four 2-meter cables with STIS v3 terminations.
    • pArtScience QRD64 2D 3-inch SpaceArray Diffusor Wood Panels
    Added 8 of these extremely effective quadratic diffusor panels on the back wall of the room.  pArtScience QRD 64-well 2D panels are a cut above other options available as stock commercial offerings from the usual sources.  Very impressive results...
    • Adona Corporation Master Reference Zero GX3, Zero GX2 (2) and Zero GX (3) Racks
    After almost 20 years with Adona's AV45-series racks that were a great long-term investment, I have done a massive upgrade to Adona's Zero GX Master Reference racks across my entire system. These raise the performance bar even higher!
    • Composite Audio CF-2010 Platforms (7)
    Wonderful and reasonably priced refinement to all the attributes of the Adona rack system,...I have yet to find any situation or external effect impacting sound quality or stability after adding these platforms many years ago.
    • Avatar Acoustics AfterBurner8 Duplex Outlets...
    The Avatar AfterBurner8 are back in the system,...pure copper and brass with minimal coating to prevent corrosion is the way to go!
    • Harmonic Resolution Systems DPX Damping Plates (16)
    Reported to pull in and dissipate airborne and chassis vibrations from all types of components...
    • Elrod Power Systems Statement Gold Speaker Cables 9-foot (2 pair)
    Pair #1 is full-range, and utilized to drive Valor's mid-bass and midrange

    Pair #2 is custom built and optimized for upper frequency playback.
    • Shunyata Research OMEGA CLOCK-50 50-ohm BNC:BNC 1.5-meter (2)
    All OMEGA digital cables beat the seemingly unbeatable SIGMA V2 digital cables and deliver additional perfection in sonics and musical results!
    • Tubulus CONCENTUS HDMI 1.5 meter
    Outstanding HDMI cables optimized for use with high-speed data protocols using by the Esoteric Grandioso P1 and dual D1 stack....
    • Elrod Power Systems Master Series Diamond XLR 2-meter (1 pair)
    Outrageously good interconnect!
    • Elrod Power Systems Diamond XLR Interconnects 6-foot (1 pair)
    A fantastic analog XLR interconnect!
    • Elrod Power Systems Statement Gold XLR 13ft pair and 6ft pair
    Amazing Elrod Statement Gold XLR Analog interconnects!!!
    • Shunyata Research Anaconda Zitron XLR (with KPIP process) 6-meter
    A tremendous long-run, super quiet, extremely quiet analog XLR!!!
    • Elrod Power Systems Master Series Statement Gold Y-Cable (custom)
    An incredible bespoke Y-Cable pair built beyond any quality measure I could imagine. Sonically amazing and imparts great musicality, dynamics and tonality to the midrange and Legacy Valor SUT Array's impact and sound quality.
    • Elrod Power Systems Masters Series Diamond SE 10-foot 15-amp (2) and 20-amp (1)
    Great SOTA power cords.....
    • Elrod Power Systems Masters Series Statement Gold 3-meter 15-amp (2)
    New smaller main center section and longer flexible ends; equal in performance to the original Master Series but much more easily placed and positioned in an audio system!
    • Elrod Power Systems Masters Series Statement Gold Power Cords 15-amp (4)

    Fantastic power cords,...

    • Audio Art Cable AAC Statement e2Plus Cryo AC Cable 15-amp, 2-meter (2)
    A great power cable for use with my HDPLEXX 300W LPSU.  Tremendous ROI for its price or any other. A great addition to the system!

    Also does a great job between my Everest 8000 power conditioner and my Cybershaft Premium Limited 10 mHz OCXO Master clock.
    • Revelation Audio Labs 'Passage' Cryo-Silver Reference XLR3::XLR5 DC Umbilical
    This is my 3rd setup to utilize this amazing DC Umbilical...
    • HDPLEX 300 Watt Quad-Rail LPSU (LT3045-enabled)
    An outstanding multi-output DC Linear Regulated Power Supply to drive the Legacy Wavelet
    • AudioHiFiSolutions Audio HighWire Cable Elevators with extenders
    This exciting new product line is unlike any other cable elevator I've seen or tried.  

    With the large amounts of analog & digital interconnects and chassis & signal grounding cables becoming typical in today's systems, traditional cable management falls short due to the plethora of cables and the complexity of routing.

    These are available in multiple cable tolerance sizes (0.25", 0.5" and 0.75") and accommodate, from 2 to 9 cables depending upon cable size. 

    There is also an on-wall or on-rack mount option coming available.

    They've done wonders here in my setup...
    • Music Collection Many Genres CD XRCD/2/24/K2/DXD/UltraHD SACD
    I love music, all kinds, shapes, colors and types; this is an extensive collection of music in many genres and formats from pipe organ, classical, jazz, all the way to hard rock, electronica/techno and everything in between. 

    Formats: CD XRCD, XRCD2, XRCD24, K2HD, DXD, UltraHD, SACD
    • PRIOR 2-channel: Legacy Audio CaliberXD, Foundation, Wavelet, Esoteric, Cybershaft, Elrod, Shunyata
    Legacy Audio CaliberXD, Foundation, Wavelet, Esoteric A-02, Esoteric P-02, D-02, Cybershaft OP21A, Shunyata Triton V3, TYPHON QR, etc....
    • PRIOR 2-channel: TAD R1 MK2s, Esoteric, Cybershaft, Elrod, Isotek
    Loved this system in many ways, lasted about 2 years,....many things evolved during this time, power cords, interconnects, power conditioning, speaker cables, my overall listening tastes and a distinct missing/longing for the extremely musical experience of Legacy Audio speakers, active room correction, etc... Don't get me wrong, the TAD R1 MK2s are within their stated range as perfect a speaker as I've heard in many aspects but the bottom octave rolling off halfway up and the bottom half octave rolling off even more plus my preference for the Legacy AMT tweeter and super-tweeter sound led me back in very short order!
    • PRIOR 2-channel: with Legacy Audio Aeris, WAVELET Esoteric, Cybershaft, Shunyata & HDPlex
    I love this setup and will be sad to see the AERIS and all of its active-speaker benefits with great RoomEQ by the WAVELET and HDPlex Custom PSU leave my system.  This has impressed all who have heard it and me daily for the past 1-2 years. Truly Amazing!!!
    • PRIOR 2-ch with Legacy FocusSE
    Prior to the arrival of the AERIS statement reference speakers, this was the configuration of the system. I will miss the FocusSEs from the point of view they gave me several great years of listening and produced far more than their price point would have indicated. A great speaker in a great sounding setup!
    • PRIOR 2-channel: Legacy Focus HDs biamped...
    The system has evolved and been refined many levels over how it sounds quite a few years ago. Prior generations centered around high-end Tara, AQ and Shunyata with Classe pre-amplification and dual NL 12.1 amps in a vertical bi-amp configuration.
    • PRIOR 7.1 HT & 2-channel: All Legacy Audio
    This is the system configuration many years ago when I attempted to go all out for 7.1 HT and 2-channel all rolled into one system. The impact, musicality and overall enjoyment factor on the HT portion of the system based upon custom-built Edge amplification, Classe HT surround-proc, 2-channel pre-amp, multiple pairs of Legacy speakers in all positions plus a REL B1 subwoofer with Velodyne processor was off the charts however the 2-channel never attained what I have always hoped for in my primary system. It took about 2 years to reach the decision but several years ago I decided to focus on 2-channel listening and have not looked back ever since.

Comments 365

Owner
Updates....

First bit of news....after several years of musical nirvana using the Esoteric A-02 to drive the mids and tweeters on the Legacy AERIS and later full-range for the TAD R1, with the install of my latest almost totally active Legacy speaker config, the A-02 has been relegated to driving a pair of tweeters.  Arguable this sounded great but this was wasting most of the capabilities of such a fine amp so I've now sold it and will be replacing a great sounding Legacy Powerbloc 2 dual-mono stereo amp (and Powerbloc monos if Bill ever brings them out) to drive the upper frequencies on this great speaker setup!

zephyr24069

Owner
Apologies for the delay,...work has been taking much time including international travel and when I'm home I don't jump on the forums as much as I used to as I'm having so much fun listening to the new setup that I just focus on that.   Decision to change speakers was a combination of life events (upcoming sale of a house, move to temporary quarters while a build is planned) and just flat out missing the Legacy sound and performance. This new setup exceeds even the bass extension and overall musical engagement of my AERIS setup and having Wavelet back in the system to compensate for room effects and remove the need to consider room treatments is a huge step up.  Could not be happier!

zephyr24069

What prompted you to change speakers? Congrats by the way. It seems like you're having a great time.

lordcloud

Owner
With additional time on this configuration, the addition of EdenSound TerraCone custom footers between the Legacy Calibre XD and Foundation cabinets.  

These provide a very dramatic improvement in overall system articulation, image size and location of each instrument and voice as well as the total ensemble playback experience.  The extra vertical spacing introducing is clearly also  adding to the mix in term of soundstage overall size....I am extremely happy with these upgrades.  Dan puts out  some amazing value and provides extraordinary customer service!!!

zephyr24069

Owner
Updated a few photos...Happy New Year everyone!

zephyr24069

Owner
@zipost This combination is the most fun I've had listening to music (and I believe I can add the qualifier 'ever' to that),....I have run the gamut of musical styles through these and with the speakers easily going flat to 16Hz in room and not being bashful about it either this is clearly the most impactful, fast, musical bass I've ever experienced. The way Bill took this active system to its fullest extreme with the dual ICE amps instead of 1, passive radiator and dual woofers instead 1 in the Calibre XD and then letting them focus all focus on only mid-bass on up delegating all bass and sub-bass duties to the Foundation cabinets is a brilliant stroke.  The have better bass extension, speed and accuracy than my prior setups with Focus SE (passive bi-amped) and AERIS with Xilica 4080 and later Wavelet.  I spent 2 solid days 12+ hours playing nothing but various big pipe organ works, most of which are on very full-range dynamic SACDs from JAV and AEOLUS and I have to say I've never heard pipe organ out of any of my systems like this. Big symphonic, rock, techno/electronica, hard rock and taiko drumming are all at all-time highs in terms of playback experience too.  One other thing,....playing 24 hours per day during break in and having music on 12+ hours since, it never ceases to amaze me on listenable and non-fatiguing these and all Bill's larger speakers are.  I could not do this with other speakers I've heard, that much is certain.

Imaging breadth, depth, wrap-around aspects, ambiance, etc...are all impressing me very much.  We all have those 'special' discs that show off these things (Roger Waters Amused to Death SACD and many others)...I've not heard these discs played back quite like this before and am very happy with the result.

These are frankly fantastic to me an a LOT of FUN!!!  To me, this is what this 'sport' is about,....the sheer enjoyment of listening to all the different types of music.  All this without thinking about what a reasonable price point all-in these are available for...that as they say is bonus in all of this and Legacy delivers tremendous enjoyment and ROI.  

Happy New Year!

zephyr24069

see you got new speakers.  Congrats!  How does it compare to your old TAD?  Also, with the active sub, your bass should be better.   Let me know your opinion and feedback.  Thanks!

zipost

Owner
Merry Christmas fellow audio-nuts!!!

zephyr24069

Owner
Using EdenSound TerraCone custom footers between the Legacy Calibre XD and Foundation cabinets.  These provide a very noticeable improvement in overall system articulation, image size and location of each instrument and voice.  The extra one inch or more of vertical spacing introducing is clearly also adding to the mix in term of soundstage overall size....very happy with these upgrades.  Dan puts out some amazing value and customer service!

zephyr24069

Owner
Thank you Lak!

Doug: Thank you! This also works if you can afford something much bigger but just don't want the hassle of a 300-400+ lb speaker!

zephyr24069

Phenomenal new idea; this is a radical take on the sub/bookshelf idea. Nice extreme setup in a more manageable package. This gives hope to people who can't afford a flagship massive floor staining speaker.

douglas_schroeder

:-)

lak

Owner

I've been off the forums for quite a few days not because I had nothing to write but because I've been having so much fun listening while working and when not working and had a new set of speakers burning in 24 hours per day that have really been quite amazing and very musical from the first couple of hours.


I listened to a lot of speakers and researched many others this year.   In late summer I went to Atlanta where Bill Dudleston was showing off his SOTA Reference speaker ($80K) the "VALOR" which utilizes many unique and revolutionary design concepts and drivers that are all his proprietary designs together with Wavelet, which can be used as a DAC (Apodizing), Linestage Preamp and DSP-ed full roomEQ. Furthermore, VALOR makes use of Bill's new "stereo unfold" technology which you have to hear to believe what it does for soundstaging and imaging. This was Sunday afternoon meeting of the Atlanta Audio & Video Society which is a great group if you are ever able to attend one of their events.


Also in the room was the Legacy Caliber "XD" model. As an aside, the Caliber productions models come in 2 flavors;


- Caliber: passive speaker, required a full range stereo or monoblocks to drive it. Tweeter, midrange and small woofer,....specs are amazing and the speaker is incredibly well built, not your typical 20-30lb monitor speaker...


- Caliber XD: hybrid with a woofer, midrange and tweeter and Dudleston's own ICE amplifier design, can be run fully active where the speaker is driven by its own internal amp or hybrid where the bass and mid-bass are run active and an external amp drives the midrange and tweeter. This mode utilizes Wavelet for RoomEQ and other benefits...


A note on the room...old Marriott with possibly THE worst sounding and hard to contend with meeting rooms and ballrooms you have ever heard. Power was terrible as well.


The VALOR being what they are were outstanding and with Wavelet and Stereo Unfold conquered that terribly room and filled with great audiophile-grade sound, imaging and yet were very musical.


External amplification was a surprise....$1800 Legacy Powerbloc2, a new stereo amp from Dudleston with his standalone ICE amplifier designs running a full-range 2-channel output. The amp was so damned good it caused me to reevaluate briefly all $20K and above amp designs I had ever made. Being objective however, there is a practical limit with any digital amp design where things get a bit grainy when you push them to concert hall levels but it was a long time before any flaw in that great cost-effective amp showed.


The surprise for everyone in the room including me beyond the comments the 2-channel Powerbloc2 amps elicited was when Bill switched over to the CaliberXD run fully active, no external amp using a CD player and/or computer audio streamed into the Wavelet. Bear in mind the Caliber XDs and a Wavelet weigh in at under $10K...


The Caliber XDs I believe are about 62 lbs each; picking them up you found a very formidable speaker whose weight and density was a surprise. You could break a knuckle tapping these if you were not careful.


As an aside, Caliber XDs carry on the history of fatigue-free, very musical speakers that Bill at Legacy is known for designing...


Everyone in the room was amazed at how the CaliberXDs run with internal amplification only and mid-level cables and CD player positively filled the room with impressive sound, accurate imaging and musical playback. Engaging/Disengaging Wavelet's RoomEQ on the fly for both CaliberXD and VALOR made that device's amazing effects readily apparent as to how it battled and won over the room's problems. When all was said and done, more than half of the 50+ people in attendance were making comments as to how they were astounded at what this stand-mounted speaker and Wavelet could do at a price that few other high-end vendors would ever offer.


Anyone needing a cost-effective speaker that while not inexpensive does not break the bank that is capable and delivers MUCH more than you would think should not buy anything before they hear or try the CaliberXD with Wavelet. 


Long-story short, after this experience in Atlanta, I traveled to Legacy twice to hear the VALOR, a custom version of Whisper XDS which I initially favored and planned to order and the Caliber XD. Over a period of 4 solid days (2 trips) I put all these through their paces after trip #1, was excited that Whisper XDS with Wavelet and some custom mods would be my next speaker.


Trip#2 changed that as I thought about the size/stature of Whisper XDS the needs for dual large subs if I wanted full range back (I did) and how they did not fit into my original plans.


For 2-3 weeks, I communicated back and forth with Bill and posed a question as to how we could utilize Caliber XD, extend it and couple it with subs to make a modular full-range separated-cabinet speaker that would allow for monitor-only, monitor-plus-bass/sub cabinets and ability to also add a 3rd decoupled cabinet just for mid-bass and midrange specialization in the future.


His answer was 'Caliber XD Custom' for me which adds the following to Caliber XD;


- an extra woofer so 2 in place of the default 1, 1 each side-firing left and 1 right

- a large passive radiator on top

- DUAL 750w ICE amps internally

- DUAL XLR inputs

- a redesigned back plate with dual speaker binding posts to the tweeter section only 

- a pair of Legacy FOUNDATION subs (to my hearing these rival REL G25 MK2s and JL Audio 212 and Gotham); 1000W of ICE amplification in each FOUNDATION

- new Wavelet algorithm sets to allow Wavelet to drive every driver set individually and treat the woofers in the Calibers as woofers or mid-woofers depending upon whether the Caliber XD "Custom" was utilized by itself or in unison with the FOUNDATIONs

- all 8 outputs on the Wavelet live to accomplish this, only one external amp needed to drive the tweeter section

- new Wavelet algorithms for 'steering' taken from Bill's wealth of experience in the pro-audio world together with Wavelet's Time and Frequency RoomEQ algorithms...

- ability to add Stereo Unfold algos to this setup based upon lessons learned from VALOR design, to be added in the future...

- the customized Calibers weigh in at about 80lbs each...

- result: 96db efficient speaker setup, 16Hz-30kHz FLAT in-room with bass on pipe organ and synth popping out well below that; I HAVE to get our REW and measure...

- Using thick sorbothane pucks for now to perch and isolate the Calibers on top of the foundations and an Adona shelf under each FOUNDATION to couple this stack to the floor and yet allow the massive passive radiator on bottom of each bass cabinet the room to do its job and breath freely...


*This was one huge experiment and there were many refinements on the overall design, driver complement, algorithms, etc...but in the end the last week has been nothing short of eye-opening. I believe that I have much more 'speaker' here than even I thought I would have at the beginning. I've been off the boards as this is one of the most fun and musical speaker setups that I've ever had, bar none and I keep finding myself getting off the computer and back in front of an around the speakers!


They have about 265 hours on them as of now; imaging, soundstaging, musical playback and realism are all up there with the best I've heard. Friends have already stopped by including one well-known power cable, interconnect and speaker cable designer who lives about an hour from here; all have been amazed at the overall result of this chance taken that resulted in one hell of a unique set of speakers.


More later and pictures below..when you consider that price of the setup retail even with the custom adds to the Caliber XDs, the Wavelet extra work and 16-layer black pearl piano-grade finish all-in is only $24K for the entire setup, it's even more amazing.

zephyr24069

Owner
I've just about had it with silence in the room after the R1s departed to a good friend's place, powered down components and speaker cables protruding from amps with nothing to connect to! Apologies for the bastardized quote but it's a favorite and resistance is futile....

By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes. Then rang the bells both loud and deep. Audio obsession is not dead nor doth it sleep!

Fun for a Saturday morning...could not resist! :-)

Only have to wait 3 more weeks....Aargh!

zephyr24069

Owner
Long overdue update to the system components list above and a couple of new photos; some older photos still remain showing Isotek equipment which has now moved up and is replaced with SHUNYATA TRITON v3 and TYPHON QR which deliver a musical playback experience unlike anything I've heard from this system yet!

zephyr24069

Owner
scar972: Thank you very much and apologies for a delayed reply; I've been off the forum for quite a while due to other things that have pulled time and lessened audio (hate it when that happens!).

zephyr24069

Hi Zephyr,

What a terrific system, congrats!
I love those TAD speakers, only had a chance to hear them in show settings driven by VTL amps and it was a memorable experience.
 

scar972

Owner
Arnie,...thank you and happy listening!!!

zephyr24069

HI Zephyr,
You are most welcome.

If you have any questions at all about bi-amping please feel free to contact me. I am happy to help.

Arnie

babybear

Owner
Thank you for the feedback and great advice! I would also that no matter how good the respective choices of amps in a 'hybrid' config that temporal coherence would always suffer to some degree simply because the amps have different sonic characteristics as you point out and circuit paths, etc...when one gets down to the minute details. This is probably a config I would just to hear it but would not standardize on in the final analysis!  It's great to hear from you; it's been a while since we chatted,...hope all is well with you!

zephyr24069

Hi Zephyr,

If you do try real bi amping, it is best to keep the amplifiers identical and not to mix tubes for the top end and solid state for the bass. I hear this suggestion alot, but I do believe based on my own experience and from speaking with others who have done active bi amping, keep everything the same for the best sonic results. The amps will have different gain and sonic characteristics. Also keep all of you IC's, power cords, etc identical with the extra set of amps. 

I have done both all tube biamping using 2 sets of VTL Siegfried Series 2 amps and now all solid state biamping using CH Precision M1 amps. Both are wonderful to use. One of the advantages of doing active biamping with either the Siegfried amps or the M1 amps is that they both have adjustable global feedback settings. This allows you to raise the feedback on the bass amps for better overall speaker control without sacrificing any of the ease and  liquidity of the mids and  highs. Until you have heard amps that can do this in a true active biamp setup you don't realize the sonic advantages of doing this.  

Do your speakers have an external crossover for doing this?

Feel free to contact me if you want to discuss this further.

babybear

Owner
Giving some serious thought to taking in some SOTA tube gear (amplifiers & preamplifier) in and try an entirely new presentation to feed the R1s...could be very interesting and I'm getting psyched up just at the thought of it :-) !!!

As the R1s can be bi-amped, another variant I would try for which I've received advice in the past is great tubes on the top-end and great solid state for the bass....interested in anyone's thoughts on both pure-tube and the mixed amp scenario.

zephyr24069

Owner
Revised system photos and some descriptions modified or added....

zephyr24069

Owner
Last night: tore down system and re-assembled moving main racks holding most of the components and cables in the system further away from speakers into an alcove on the left hand side of the room....the trip to the 'audiophile gym' is complete (for now!).....

zephyr24069

Owner
Thank you very much for your feedback and compliments!

The system does make wonderful music that is the most real and compelling in any room/system I have ever had.

50-ohm where it is called for on a 10 mHz master-clocking interface for Esoteric devices with that capability does make a real difference in the accuracy of size of an instrument, a voice, an ensemble, etc...there is payback as well when using a proper 50-ohm cable over a 75 on a 50-ohm circuit in terms of tonal correctness and realistic portrayal of the music.

Thank you again!

zephyr24069

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