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UPDATE (12/23/07): added the MBL 5011 preamp. After living with my Esoteric front end for almost 3 months without a pre, I came to the realization that a pre was definitely needed. Without a pre, the sound was a bit thin and lacking bass. The 5011 addressed these issues and so much more. I did not realize how poor my soundstaging was until I introduced the 5011. This pre does in incredible job of layering the soundstage as well as separating each individual instrument.

UPDATE (12/07/07): added the Ayre MX-R amps. These were broken in by my dealer for 2 weeks before I took delivery. I rarely am taken back by gear but I was startled at how much real these amps sounded to me than my previous amps. There is more detail, more immediacy of notes, very good separation of instruments, and a very nice holographic presentation. I can go on and on but by far these amps are the most realistic sounding I have come across. They are just so enjoyable to listen to!

UPDATE (9/29/07): added Esoteric P-03 transport and D-05 DAC. The D-05 has the latest 32 bit DAC from AKM. Even only after a few hours I hear much better separation between instruments and notes, better sustain and decay, and more authoritative bass. More updates to follow.

UPDATE (8/03/07): added the Oyaide R1 outlet for my amps. Everything is a bit livelier with much better detail. I am hearing so many little nuances I have never heard before!

UPDATE (7/24/07): added the Oyaide SWO-GX Ultimo outlet to my front end. What a difference! The bass now goes lower and there is more detail across the board. I will adding another outlet for my amps next. This is by far one of the best tweaks I have ever done.

UPDATE (7/13/07): I finally got around to adding some heavy silk drapes and they made a world of difference. Everything is much smoother. I will continue to look for ways to judiciously treat my room without making it look like a recording studio.

Beauty:

-The sound is just incredible. Vocals are holographic and textured.

-The MBL 5011 preamp is beautiful to look at. Luckily the sound is just as good.

-The Ayre MX-R amps are just gorgeous to look at. The casework is outstanding. And as my wife said, "they are so cute"!

Beasts:

-The Usher BE-10 speakers are big and thick producing a powerful yet delicate sound.

-The Esoteric P-03 transport is incredibly heavy (75lb) and big but it sure sounds good.

My system has undergone A LOT of changes over the last few years. This has been mainly to me figuring out my own listening preferences and understanding what I wanted to get out of my system. After swapping out a lot of components and spending too much money, I have finally settled down a bit.

I listen to all kinds of music but tend to favor anything with female vocals, particularly acoustic folk and vocal jazz. I also favor simple orchestration and basic instrumentation with a preference for acoustic guitar and piano. The less number of instruments between me and the vocals the better. I mainly go to listen to music in small, intimate venues where I am able to sit within a few feet of the band.

Given my musical tastes, I wanted to put together a system that is able to reproduce the sound as organically as possible. I want to hear every little detail like the quiver in a singer's voice, the sound of the guitar pick striking the string, the feeling of the hammer hitting the piano string. To me, these tiny nuances help to make the music sound as real (i.e. organic) as possible. To this end, I wanted a system that was detailed, dynamic, fast, and immediate with just a hint of warmth. I did not want anything that was too syrupy sounding though. My current system gives me everything I am looking for. It is as close to hearing musicians in my room that I have ever heard with any previous iteration of my system.
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    • Esoteric P-03 Transport
    I love the Esoteric sound so much I had to get their P-03 transport.
    • Esoteric D-05
    Anniversary model with new AKM 32 bit DAC
    • Esoteric VRDS-Neo
    This transport is a work of art! By far, the best, most accurate transport available. The amount of detail it extracts is amazing!
    • Sonos ZP-80
    Wireless digital music system. Digital output is sent to Esoteric D-05 DAC, a huge improvement over internal DAC. I enjoy my music so much more now that I have instant access to my 40K song library
    • MBL 5011
    A very musical preamp with outstanding soundstaging and separation of each instrument.
    • Ayre Acoustics MX-R
    I am so happy with these amps. They make everything sound so real it is startling! The transparency and dynamics suit my preferences perfectly!
    • Usher BE-10
    Very dynamic and neutral sounding speaker. I am sold on beryllium!
    • Tara Labs The One
    Very transparent and "tight" sounding cable that also offers weight and solidity. These give me all the virtues I admired in my previous speaker cable, the Nordost Blue Heaven while providing what it was missing.
    • Acoustic Zen Silver Reference II
    Used between my source and preamp. Great detail without sounding bright or edgy.
    • Acoustic Zen Matrix Reference II
    Used between my preamp and amp. Very smooth sounding.
    • Acoustic Zen MC2 XLR
    AES/EBU digital cable from Esoteric P-03 transport to D-05 DAC.
    • Acoustic Zen Silver Byte
    Used to synch the word clock from the Esoteric D-05 DAC to the P-03 transport.
    • Acoustic Zen MC2 RCA
    Digital cable from Sonos ZP-80 wireless digital music system to Esoteric D-05 DAC.
    • Virtual Dynamics Nite 3
    Being used to power by MBL 5011 preamp. Like all VD power cables I immediately noticed more dynamics, speed, and authority. The soundstage with the VD power cables are incredible!
    • Star Sound Technology SP-4 Sistrum Stand
    Great amp stand that helped to add smoothness to my system.
    • Oyaide SWO-GX Ultimo
    Double cryo'd outlet with 24K gold plating - used for cdp and preamp
    • Oyaide R1
    Cryo'd ac outlet with Beryllium/copper and palladium plating - used for amps
    • HiFi Tuning Fuse
    I added this "audiophile" fuse to my MBL 5011 preamp. I am not sure it made any difference but it was cheap and lord knows I have spent much more money on things that actually made my system sound worse! My previous preamp, Classe CP-700 did respond positively to these fuses though. I still may try some in my other components.

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Tommy,

Looking forward to what you have to say about your new MBL pre coming.... hope it's all you want it to be.

Joey

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Tommy,

I was afraid of that, my friend. I was actually hoping that you weren't in agreement with me.

:X

Keep me in the loop and let me know what you intend on doing.

All the best,
Joey

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Tommy,

I'm beginning to think you need your preamp back, buddy. :(

Joey

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Tommy,

If the verdict is out as to whether the Ref3 vs the D5 volume is better, I would say sell the Ref3 because that's $10K worth of audio equipment that is not able to give a clear cut improvement.

You can try a passive line stage and see if that helps your situation with regards to the usability of the D5's volume control.

Audiophile1,
You need to relax. Mind your own business.

joey_v

Audphile1,

I really don't understand why you like to argue every little bit of minutia. You have already clarified with Tommy what was originally said, why do you feel the need to take it up with me, too?

Would it help to let you know that Tommy and I exchange emails outside of audiogon and we talk about audio quite frequently. Knowing this, does it make it so hard for me to understand what he originally meant without him having to go into detail with the "what" and the "why"?

Cheers,
Joey

joey_v

Hear hear. Live is the standard... life or lifelike being the operative word. I think that live events (atleast big ones, like large concerts) are not what we are after because those are amplified through their own set of PAs and amps. What we are after is that "small jazz bar" feel.

Atleast, that's what I'm after.

But I understand exactly what Tommy was trying to say in his initial statement. I agree.. organic is good.

Joey

joey_v

Tommy,

Yes! I actually bought a TT! Finally! I bought a VPI Scoutmaster with upgraded steel delrin clamp! Complete with Dynavector 20XH cartridge from a dealer in FL. I have not taken delivery yet, but am definitely excited for this baby!

I also noticed that you mentioned you were auditioning the Evolution Acoustics MM3 (or 2, I forget which) early in August/September. I did not see your posts regarding your impressions of those speakers and was wondering what you thought of them.

Joey

joey_v

No matter how many times I've seen your system, Tommy.... it's always a pleasure to take another peak. Another upgrade! Saweet!

Hope you like where your sound is going!

Joey

joey_v

Nice shots, Tommy! I see you've gotten new chairs!

Joey

joey_v

Tommy,

Everytime I open audiogon, I check out your page...

I gotta say dude, your setup has notched up a few levels in the past year. Love it man... wish I could hear them.

We've exchanged quite a bit of emails and pms over the past months and I gotta hear what you've put together. That Ref3/X160 combo must be a killer move on your part.

And I agree, the Cary house-sound just loves the Summits. I think the 05 is on my radar... but for now, I'm getting my Perfect Chair. It's my birthday gift... turning 25 in less than a week!

:)

Joey

joey_v

How was the 05, Tommy?

joey_v

tommy,

Have you thought about the Perfect Chair? Im thinking about one....

joey_v

Tommy,

What's your listening chair? I'm on this hunt for my perfect chair....

BTW, the Ref3 is bad-ass looking to me! Jealous that you have it.

My guys on vacation, so I am still waiting on the final quote on the Sonos for you, btw.

Joey :)

joey_v

Tommy,
How good is the Cary 306SACD Dac? I'm thinking of going Squeezebox into the Cary....

Also, what do you think of the Sonos? Is it easy to setup? My local audiophile buddy has the ability to get Sonos at factory price so I'm tempted to sell the squeezebox and go with the Sonos.

Joey

joey_v

Tommy,

Make sure to let me know what you think of the PPP... looking forward to your comments on that piece of hardware! :)

Also, glad that you're happy with your current setup, looked at the equipment list you have and it seems to be quite a ways above the 805s that you started with a few years back.

Lastly, I would like to know how the Cary is able to be used as a standalone DAC... I've been looking for a DAC for the Squeezebox3 as I think this is a better way to go than to get the SlimDevices Transporter. If you have any other ideas on DACs, let me know. Thanks!

Joey

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