you don't need new speakers.... see my previous advice..... or just wait for a better room that would quantify the investment.

euphoriahifi June 21, 2012 12:04

Sonrock, regarding the rug... I am talking about taming side reflections off the walls not the floor which is something I believe would help the MBL's as well and probably every other speaker in the world. You can buy expensive room treatments or experiment with something you might have around the house- like a couple cheap rugs... Your equipment in front of your speakers (let alone a fireplace right next to them) will seriously mess up your imaging along with every other audio superlative you can come up with.... I have a room with a similar issue in my house. It is larger than my current listening room (11 x 13) vs about 17x 14 with 11' ceilings. In this larger room I move them out about 5 ft from the front wall (back wall however you look at it...) Even having components between your speakers can have ill effects. You can read old threads or just use plain common sense on speaker placement. The magicos will actually have better bass and imaging when placed further into the room. you can see my previous comments for more clarification. In my experience, they sound terrible when placed against a wall. Use your ears to decide where they should be. But placing anything in front of a speaker is obviously far from ideal. Ultimately, it is you that has to be happy, not anyone else. In my small room, my v2's are about 6' apart tweeter to tweeter, 3' from the back wall measured to the tweeter and about 7' from my ears with very little toe in. These measurements are not exact so don't take them as gospel. In a non-recatangular or square room you will have to offset each side differently to compensate for balance issues the same holds true to square rooms which is why I say my measurements are not exact. I have experimented endlessly...... this sounds best to me.

euphoriahifi October 29, 2011 15:51

Thats a bigger room than I have my V2's in currently. At a minimum, put your components behind them. It is harder for the drivers to integrate the closer you sit to them but when they are pressed against a wall there is no depth, no focus and, no low end which causes them to become bright. You have some very nice gear there. In order to maximize your $$$ spent, you're going to have to move some things around. In my experience, the V2 sounds awesome in a smaller room as they become very fast and punchy with no bloat or overhang in the mid range or lower end. Side reflections do however need tamed. On the cheap, a 3' x 5' rug works wonders but you can spend to your hearts delight. Have fun.

euphoriahifi October 26, 2011 11:29

How big is your room? I can tell you for certain that the magicos are too close to the wall. Minimum 3 ft from front wall better still at 5ft. I don't have a room large enough to try them any further out than that. In any case, they should be in front of your electronics,not behind. Just a little friendly advice. Enjoy.

euphoriahifi October 25, 2011 16:12