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Added Monitor Audio PL500 II speakers being driven by Jeff Rowland 735s.
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Room Details

Dimensions: 24’ × 18’  Large
Ceiling: 8’


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    • Antipodes Audio Oladra
    Digital Player
    • Monitor Audio PL-500
    PL-500
    • Infigo Audio Signature XLR
    1m balanced from Jeff Rowland preamp to Jeff Rowland amp and 1m from my DAC to preamp

    1.5m Infigo Audio USB
    • Clarus Crimson
    2.5 meter pair with spades
    • GIK 242
    Acoustic Treatment
    • Chord Electronics Ltd. Dave DAC
    • Jeff Rowland Corus
    Preamp
    • Jeff Rowland 735 mono-amps
    Class A/B amplifier
    • Sony VPL-XW6000ES
    Home Projector
    • Screen Innovations Series 5
    120" Screen Innovations Series 5 Gray Slate
    • Torus RM-20
    Power conditioner
    • REL No. 32
    • Trinnov Audio Altitude 16 and Amplitude 16
    • REL HT-1510

Comments 127

Floundering IS the hobby. Apparently some people don't get it.

jaxwired

Interesting. Thanks for the response. What, specifically, were you unhappy with about the F208? I'm thinking about buying a pair for my second system so the more detail you can provide, the better.

kevinkwann

Owner
Kevinkwann,

I didn't make the same mistake...I didn't buy Aerial 7Ts because of the manufacture or how much they cost. I was unhappy with the overall sound of the F208s so I sold them. The 7Ts are the most enjoyable speakers that I've ever owned. I will build around them; however I won't buy another speaker.

ricred1

"I tried to convince myself that I liked a speaker because of how much it cost, as opposed to how it sounds."

Okay, so you moved from a more expensive speaker (the Sasha) to a less expensive speaker (the F208). But then you repeat the mistake you made originally by moving from a less expensive speaker (the F208) to a more expensive speaker (the 7T).

Why?

kevinkwann

Owner
Donjr,

Yes, I sold my F208S. The F208s have a very good soundstage. You can sit virtually anywhere and still receive a stable image.

ricred1

Ricred, did you sell the F208's? I'm currently using Harbeth C7es3's with a REL B2 sub. I auditioned the F208's and thought the soundstage was quite a bit larger than what I'm getting with my current speaker arrangement. I don't have the luxury of keeping them more than 16" away from the wall behind the and was wondering your thoughts on how sensitive the F208 is to placement.

donjr

Owner
System edited: Added GIK acoustic treatment

ricred1

Silver is very important in the world of audio to get more space and air around instruments. It also is better in timing and speed compared to the best copper you can buy these days.

Today I will receive my personal Audioquest Wel Signature XLR cable. In a few weeks I will write a review about it.

bo1972

Owner
I replaced the plate with Silver Audio Silver Shot jumpers cables today that match my speaker cables. I don't want to exaggerate, but everything has improved. No, not a night and day difference, but significant enough that it is easily heard. More space between instruments, slightly clearer mids and more defined bass. Considering the small amount I spent, this is one of the best things I have ever done!

ricred1

I think the Oak. Not the new one below this cable.

bo1972

Owner
Bo1972,

This is what you wrote in another thread concerning cables: "The best ones also let you hear the differences in Heights of instruments and voices during a recording. These things can't be achieved so easily with more expnsive amps or sources. YOUR WORDS NOT MINE.."CAN'T BE ACHIEVED SO EASILY WITH MORE EXPENSIVE AMPS OR SOURCES!" I know from hearing with my own ears a better source and amp can make a difference. For now, my question is regarding cables and I'll try to ask in a different way, with the hopes of you providing an answer. What do you believe is the best value in Audioquest's current line of speaker cables?

ricred1

It has nothing to do with Pass Labs. I still think you can get a higher level out of your speaker with a more expensive amp and source.

What powercables are you using?

bo1972

Owner
Bo1972,

When I was deciding to change my system I had a long talk with a high-end company known for their amplifiers. His advice was always start with the speakers, because there are more differences between speakers than amplifiers! I know you always recommend Pass Labs; however I don't like Pass amps. I will eventually upgrade my source, but I'm asking you about speaker cables. In particular what Audioquest cable would you recommend?

ricred1

I think your speakers deserve a better poweramp and source. You easilly can get a higher endresult when you would upgrade them.

Your speakers look nice, I think you need the right balance in your system. Many people spend a lot of money on speakers. Amps and sources are extreme important as well!!

bo1972

Owner
Skateman,

Thanks for the nice words. There are some higher priced systems that sound really great. What I would like to reiterate over and over again is price and/or manufacturer doesn't always equate to better sound. I'm not saying some of my previous speakers sound horrible. Honestly, in hindsight I realize some of my previous speakers were bad values.

ricred1

Nice system Ricred- I've always liked Aerials! Had a pair of 7b's and have heard the 7T's a few times. Your philosophy is spot on. IMO, the higher priced my system is the more the expectations rise and diminishing returns begins to be a factor.

skateman

Hi Ricred1,
I appreciate your reply to Kevinkwann. You came to a wise realization
regarding the motivation for buying audio components. Brand names and
high costs aren't as you acknowledged the right criteria for true fulfillment.
The only goal should be enjoying your music to the highest degree with
emotion and involvement. Now that you've experienced that transition
you're on the road towards long term happiness rather than hifi nervosa
and recurrent frustration. Congratulations!
Charles,

charles1dad

Owner
Kevinkwann,

I don't flounder...my problem was I tried to convince myself that I liked a speaker because of how much it cost, as opposed to how it sounds. I'll repeat that I was buying for the wrong reasons. I bought into more money or brand name equates to better. I had the perfect opportunity to sell my Sashas with minimum loss and I did. I couldn't be more content. I'm adding relatively inexpensive room treatment and I will be done. I don't have the best system, but I enjoy listening to music more than ever!

ricred1

I should flounder with some of that gear. Nice dedicated room, too.

daverz

You seem to flounder in this hobby more than most.

kevinkwann

Owner
System edited: received my Aerial 7Ts and a Peachtree 220 SE...I'm happy for now!

ricred1

Owner
System edited: I just purchased a pair of Aerial 7Ts and should have them next week. Looking forward to keeping them for a long time.

ricred1

Owner
Bjbcab,

To be honest with you, no matter what I tried, listening to Sashas was fatiguing. After a couple of months without a system I decided to put a modest system together. I initially had Revel F52s and loved them. I quickly traded them and purchased Revel F208s. I just purchased a pair of Aerial 7Ts and will build a system with them as the foundation. I have discovered that I prefer a well balanced speaker that can present a three dimensinal soundstage. I don't want to get into what's better, but I submit you can build a very satisfying system for a lot less than the cost of Sashas.

ricred1

What happen to your Sasha w/p and Denson combo?

bjbcab

Ricred, the new Parasound P5 preamp will do what you are asking. I believe it retails for $1100.

Nice system by the way.

lulimet

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