System edited: System Edited...added Crystal Cable Ultra speaker cables replaced my DH labs Q10 cable. Actually Q10's were my weakest link but its a terrific value for the money, no speaker cable at this price point could give this results but after changing to Ultra's that was a good step up improvement, ok it's a jump from 600 usd speaker cable to 6000..but again it's in another class maybe class of it's own...

hal123 January 18, 2014 20:20

I would guess that the Nagra 845 with its push pull configuration could mate very well with your speakers.

charles1dad December 02, 2013 19:24

Thank you Vegasears for your comments, actually they would bring nice synergy that gave me an intention to not to touch too much on anything in chain except I would have in mind to try Cyrstal Cable spaeker cables to change my DhLabs Q10 speaker cables (but really said those are fantastic bargain cables), and also I liked very much Silver Sonics Red Wave power cords and have intention to add more. Next step would be to try also more powerfull amp choices like Nagra vpa on 845 tubes but its all matter of wallet of course..

hal123 December 02, 2013 18:36

Outstanding rig. Based on what I've read and heard your equipment choices and matches are brilliant.

vegasears November 29, 2013 14:55

System edited: PS Audio P10 power plant came and settled on the rack, now is on stage of burning. I made you inform the pros and cons of this adding..

hal123 November 28, 2013 21:31

Hi all, Today I tried to connect Red wave powercord for clocking unit and shifted analysis plus for a dac..detail emerged more clear and pinpoint definition..electricty line is much better today or difference comes on cable differencies..definately this cable made improvements I am getting in love of this power cable. Curious for psaudio P10, need to wait 3-more weeks..

hal123 October 31, 2013 19:19

Just ordered ps audio P10 line conditioner and speaker cables from Crystal Cable Ultra series (cant afford the absolute dream)..have to wait till my shipment arrives. I will review changes soon.

hal123 October 20, 2013 19:19

Hal, it depends on who you ask. I personally do think they help a bit. With the fuses I have tried, I hear more dynamics and clarity. Don't expect any earth shattering improvements but rather subtle changes.

tboooe October 20, 2013 17:27

Does this fuses change the sound in a positive way?

hal123 October 20, 2013 15:13

As I understand it, these fuses all have ratings on them which indicate their maximum operation condition. They should blow if the max conditions are exceeded. I know of a friend whose SR fuse blew because he bought the wrong rating for his amp. Don't worry your equipment will be protected.

tboooe October 20, 2013 05:52

I mean that fuses could blown or burned when the current is out of state and I wonder if this occurs fuses could damage the unit..it seems to me that most twicked fuses are made of ceramic with solid structure that are made for only audiophile purposes rather than has protection function. Sory for my knowledge but really dont know the issue here..

hal123 October 19, 2013 21:54

Hi Hal, not sure what you mean by "blownable"?

tboooe October 19, 2013 15:32

Hi Taboooe, I read from your virtual system that you used fuses. I have one silly question to you are those fuses blownable?

hal123 October 19, 2013 06:10

Hal, you wont be disappointed with the P10. I have the P3 and it did wonders for my system! Adding a decent power cord also improved things.

tboooe October 18, 2013 23:13

System edited: Now there is plan to add an Ps Audio P10 conditioner, and also need to improve my speaker cables hoping to find cyrstal cable preferably ultra line. Any comment on this regard are welcome. I wish a happy listening to all..

hal123 October 18, 2013 21:35

System edited: Added Silversonics Red Wave Power Cord for transpot and dac..very detailed and dynamic sounding power cables. Had too much detail now, I shifted one for esoteric rubidium clock other remained for transport, and much better now..need at least 100 hours to break in and hope to settle a little bit, we'll see..

hal123 September 02, 2013 12:48

Hi Tabooe,
Esoteric rubidium world clock g0s makes improvements, mostly on the soundstage..p3 d3 has already built in clocking connection and its in a nice and complicated structure that i believe even on board clocking had a improvement that is audible and makes some positive contributions on sound. I was spectical on tyring something more sophisticated not for reason that combo needs but reviews and my dealer offering forced me to try outdoard clocking, and my dealer offered good deal for that..
First i connected the unit with two sets of bnc connectors and let the unit to settle and clock at least 10 minutes are necessary for rubidium to warm up..this is the first starting squence that first you have to warm up the unit, next times if you leave the unit on stand by you dont need to wait till long, but 2 days the rubidium light was kept blinking, the clocking was functioning but there was blinking that annoying me sequencly, after i noticed that my power amp was so near placed to the unit so i changed the place and the blinking were gone and clocking took place, that means the unit is sensible on temperature and must be placed on fresh place,
So what are the results on sound.. First and immadiate improvement comes on soundstage, before i was thinking that i had marvelous soundstage after connecting the unit all the instruments on the stage are placed on their particular places and the stage boomed, more dept and more upfront stage, hmmm nice improvement, detail stayed the same but like purified and more analog like effect occurred,
I listened for i couple of days and wanted to turn back to see for understanding was clocking effect or the unit contribution because most of time your mind comes shifted on the unit and you doesnt understand what is excacly improved, so i shifted back to listen without the g0s, what i have to say once that you hear this there is no turning back it makes really good improvement and this definately a must stay unit..i recommend it highly if you plan to add external clocking but as i understand strangely, higher the unit you have higher the contribution you get, because you are hearing higher resolution and detail and the differencies comes more recognazible..but on some reviews one box solutions had no very recognasible effect, on my case i heard positive thinks and good improvements..now my cd source had reached to another level that only high level analog setups could reach..hope this helps
Happy listening to all..

hal123 August 25, 2013 08:16

Hal123, and the results??????

tboooe August 22, 2013 22:36

System edited: Added Esoteric G0s Rubidium Master Clock between P03-D03

hal123 August 22, 2013 20:27

I am planning to add Esoteric World Clock generator G0s rubinium master clock..heard positive comments on this and wonder how its going to be already very good sounding cd even better? But I am already very happy with the sound, but this wonders and curiosities makes this hobby realy interesting does it worth to invest more, should I got more? we'll see..

hal123 August 13, 2013 22:48

Hal123, unless you listen at extremely loud levels I can't see how you would need the P10 unless you are plugging in TVs, class A monoblock amps, etc. I think the P5 should be fine. If I recall, Shunyata only does conditioning. I personally think AC regeneration is the way to go. I've tried filters before and heard very little sonic benefit but with the P3 I heard and continue to hear immediate improvements.

I use the P3 in my one and only small system. I dismantled my larger system with the Esoteric gear a few years back. That said, I am intrigued by clocks and jitter reduction. I am thinking of getting the Empirical Audio Synchro Mesh to use with my Sonos.

tboooe August 02, 2013 21:49

Tboooe,
I was preferring P10 becouse I want to benefit also for the amplifier and for future upgrades.I heard many positive things for also shunyata products. Do you use P3 on your main system or on secondary? Also saw that you have esoteric digitals also, did you ever wondered or maybe tried esoteric world clocks..that is another step that I am looking for..anyway your set up looks nice.

hal123 August 02, 2013 21:07

I can't speak to the P10 since I have the P3 but I will say it was the single best improvement to my system. Instead of hearing roll off I heard notes sounding more full, precise and dynamic. I have everything going through the regenerated power supply. Do you think you really all that power of the P10. I think the P5 should plenty. In my system, I usually draw only 104w. The P3 is capable of outputting up to 750w. I don't think you can go wrong with any of the P series.

tboooe August 02, 2013 00:13

Hi folks...I am planning to add Ps Audio P10..but I have concerns for rolling off the highs does any comment on power conditioners and what do you suggest..I am now using Black Noise Extreme noise filter on Esoterics and have very pleased with but this doesnt have line stabilization and voltage regulation. Heart positive comments for Ps Audio P10 and wonder since its gonna make a good inmprovement but always spectical for contioners effect on sound quality.
Any positive negative comment is very welcome happy listenings

hal123 August 01, 2013 21:36

System edited: Brought Stein DE2 cd demagnetizer..its silly but it really works and recommended

hal123 August 01, 2013 21:30