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We live in the San Francisco bay area. We are lucky continuing to enjoy live music performances attending 25-30 a year. We are long time season subscribers to the SF Ballet at the Opera House, to the SF Symphony at Davies and to Best of Broadway Series at the Curran, etc. Additionally, there are lots of jazz performances near us Shoreline, Villa Montavlo and at Paul Mason lucky for us. These are at a wide range of performance venues from Jazz, hot groups (pop classification are to many to describe) or soloist, to classical.

We consider music a priority at home. Our music home tastes run from Jazz, Rock, Vocals, and Classical. So a decent music system at home was important priority to us. I must admit I've gone overboard on the music system. I'm sure you have also.

Our living room (21x26) and the slightly smaller dinning room (16x20) are a one continuous space. They share one side (36’) full height windows and sliding glass doors. We have vertical blinds on that side. Another challenge was a solid brink fireplace bifurcating where the two rooms join together. There is a cathedral ceiling (15’) in the living room. The W/P8’s are 8.5’ center to center and set slightly forward (3’) on either side of fireplace. The Room sounds to dead with all the blinds closed and wonderful when the blinds are open and the speaker grills are off. I placed all the front-end equipment into specially built, “solid” cabinets in the family room that joins the dinning room. So I have to run 42’ of Stealth interconnect to the Lamm amps setting behind each speaker.

Why Wilson? My music pursuit couldn’t be obtrusive. We, my wife lived through this, went through stacked Quad’s, Quad’s with Entec’s, Magnepan Timpani IV’s, Infiniti 4.5’s, Avalon’s, and home dozens of demonstrations. We picked Wilson W/P because they gave us the best all round music performance in our home environment. They do a wonderful job into reproducing the wide range of music we like. Then the evolution over time was W/P 3/2s, 7's and now 8's.They are our favorite speakers in “our” home environment.
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    • Wilson Audio System 8 (Watt/Puupy8)
    This is a wonderful speaker system that is so musical. Since our music room is also our living room these speakers in a Mercedes Desert Silver color fit in beautifully with our decor. Our System had to fit in our normal life style and also produces great music for us to enjoy. The Wilson System 8's meets both criteria. It looks fairly clean because we have all the other front end gear are house custom, design by me and fabricated by a friend cabinet maker, stereo cabinet system with two main areas. An Arcici Suspense stand keeping everything vibration free from the music or movements that occur else where sits in its own custom audio cabinet with in the whole cabinet system. I bring out the 14 feet of Stealth cables to connect the front end to the amps. Additional Amp power and speaker cables are attached when I music on, but often we just leave the cabling out. When dinner guests come over the cabling is put away. A guest could easily trip over the power and IC cables in the pathways to the dinning room. This is a slab-flooring house without any crawl space beneath the flooring.
    • TW Acustic Raven AC-1
    One of the best TT's in the world and is my main TT now. I can't decide if I want one or three motors right now. I will add more arms/cartridges soon. My bad,this photo shows the Graham Phantom MK II and a Koetsu rather than the DaVinci combination. I will correct this later. Note the SRA turntable platform. It is our vibration sucker and offers a wonder surface for the TW Acustic turntable to rest on. I think it really doing two jobs. It is functional and is the aesthetic touch to the turn table home. You may not notice this but all the front end equipment is in adjoining room housed in custom design and built for audio cabinetry system. There are separate 4 ac lines for TV Digital, Turn Table and Analog equipment. In addition the are two PS Audio PS-600s for ac regeneration.
    • DaVinci Audio Grand Reference
    The 12" DaVinci Grand Reference grandezza is a significant improvement over the Graham Phantom MK II in all areas but since I changed both arm and cartridge it is impossible the give exact credit to the arm or cartridge. I suspect the cartridge deserves the credit. I must do a review on this. That will get me to do a better explanation of what improvements I'm hearing.
    • DaVinci Audio Grandezza 12
    Stock photo warning on this arm. My photo shot will come later.The 12" Grand Reference Grandezza tone arm review will come later.
    • Silent Running Audio Special for TW Acustic Raven AC-3
    This piano black turntable platform is staggering improvement in sound stage stability and is a beautiful platform for the TW Acustis Rave AC-1. Love writing this.
    • Wavestream Kinetics Phono Stage
    Scott Franklin designed pre-amp and separate phono unit bettered my Aesthetix Io Signature with two Power Supplies by doing all the great things the Aesthetix does while removing the Aesthetix's darkness veil. Also there's no tube rush when using really low voltage moving coil cartridges - just blackness. I couldn't believe it until I took the Wavestream's Store demos home for four days and compared the two systems. The Wavestream's Products are not well known, but anybody who is serious about music and in their price range should take a serious listen to these products. Besides previously owning the Aesthetix line there were many other, Mare's Connoisseur Model 2.0, CAT Ultimate, Jadis JP80mc modified by Scott Franklin, and many ARC products.
    • Wavestream Kinetics Tube Pre-Amp
    The best of the best preamp I tried. Better than the Aesthetix Callisto Signature with two PS and filled with Alert Porter's recommended NOS tubes that I had. Wavestream Preamp is one one the best out there. Snatch one up if you can. Hand crafted by one technician under Scott Franklin's direction in woefully tiny production run quantities.
    • Lamm Industries ML 2.1 SET Mono Amps
    Great sound with power from this 18 watt SET design.Totally amazing on these W/P8's. For 3-4 years Lamm run these on W/P7's the W/P8s and Maxx 2's. One of the best sounding rooms at CES convinced me to try a home demo. After that home demo I bought immediately.
    • Stealth Indra IC Pre to Amps
    4.5M RCA pair from preAmp to Lamm Monos Amps. May system opebed up once the stealth was tried on a home demo. Bougth them in two steps because they are really budget busting but woth every bit of it.
    • Stealth Indra
    Phono and two other 1M Indra Interconnects
    • Stereovox 600
    Stereovox replaces my Nordost Valhalla because it sounded just a little more musical and natural while keeping exceptional transparency. Tried other that are even more expensive and they were worse, Names have been withheld to not embarrass those products. Stock photo as I have used white sleeve to cover up the big black hose look in our living room
    • Arcici Suspense stand Suspension Stand
    Except for amps and speakers all other equipment is in a specially built custom equipment closet, my design, with 4 dedicated AC lines. My idea was to have two physical vibration free areas separated from the music room.
    • Cardas Mrytle Blocks
    Under Amps, Phono Preamp + PS and Tuner
    • AudioNut Cable lifter/isolatoers
    Heavyweight ceramic lifter that keeps amps' speaker and power cables from contacting carpet
    • VH Audio Arsine Poer Cables
    Power cables used through out system. Compared lots of PCs but these are the best value and performance out there. They are very stiff and do not bend easily. When we normal people, not interested in listening to the system, I remove these cables in order to close back cabinet door and to clean up living room appearance.

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Owner
System edited: Added Lyra Titian mono cartridge. Deleted Bybee parts that were inmy previous equipment.

gerrym5

Owner
Sorry for the late response. I was working on the Obama campaign for 2 weeks in California and then 3 weeks in Colorado. Then 2 days before the election we went on a wonderful 3 week trip to Israel. Then the Holidays were on us. These last 3 months have just flown by us.

Goldeneraguy: Thanks for the invite, but I was committed to the campaign and didn't know my what my free time was going to be. Also I spent most of my time in Brighton, CO. Got a couple of hours in at RMAF Sunday afternoon. Not enough time. Maybe next year?

Fpooyandeh, I paid $14K because on an industry accommodation.

Its great to be back home doing our things with family and friends with time for listening to music.

gerrym5

Owner
I seem to get great depth in my sound staging. From our photos there is one big room difference. My fireplace is freestanding on centerline between two open rooms - dinning room and living room. Therefore, my speakers don't see a rear wall for another 18 feet. After that, your guess is as good as mine.

BTW, you have a great system. You must love music.

gerrym5

Nice system Gerry. I'm curious. Does your fireplace effect your soundstage/image? My fireplace also projects out between my two speakers and I am having issues with soundstage depth. Stage width and center image are excellent, but depth isn't quite as good. I hope to install some absorption panels behind the speakers to improve things, but it may be a problem aesthetically. Do you have any suggestions?

peterayer

Can I ask how much you paid for your Audio Note Ankorus ?

fpooyandeh

Great system !! I happened to have your 2nd favorite amp ( audio Note Ankoru's) running my Wilson MAXX !!! they are great but I noticed in the full orchestral music and in ncresendo stage they miss a bit of resolution and dynamics!! Perhaps that has to do with the 845s tubes . I also have a great no. of LPs ( 8K) and would not mind to share some of my experiences with you on classical music and high end.
Enjoy it !
F.P.

fpooyandeh

Gerry , I just read that your going to RMAF this weekend.
If you took your system to the show it would be better then 99% of what you will see/hear.
Albert has invited me and I am trying to put together a road trip to visit and listen to some of the fine systems members have put together.Your system is definitely one of them.
Beautifully done

goldeneraguy

Brian

Unequivocally the Lamm ML 2.1
As good as the Emitter is the Lamm is just so much better and is a great match for the MAXX. Listen to what Marty is trying to tell you.
Brian have a read of this for your speakers and the ML 2.1
http://www.soundstage.com/revequip/lamm_ml21_followup.htm

BTW Brian you will need to get those new MAXX lll's :)

oneobgyn

i noticed in another thread you mentioned Wilson Maxx and ASR emitter II as an "ideal" combo. I am looking at that combo versus Lamm 2.1 with the Maxx's. Any thoughts?

bflowers

Gerry, what a beautiful system!

With that ocean critter sitting on your glass table, I expected to read:

Koetsu Coral (not Koetsu Onyx Platinum) :^).

Where is the Basis? I clicked on it and see it's hidden away in a compartment but I can't figure out where.

albertporter

Owner
Thanks for taking a look at my system. You have a fantastic system yourself! "Finessa", is a great name. Vector vs Graham: I didn't spend much time in comparing tone-arms because my TT was already precisely drilled for Graham's and the B-44 was getting (still is) great reviews. I have heard the new Vector IV is receiving rave reviews now so the differences may not be as great as before. I have wanted to get a TT that can mount two arms, but the inside width of the built in cabinet limits reasonable access to a second arm - damn tradeoffs. Having more gear, like a second TT creeping into our living space, was pushing WAF - not a tradeoff.

gerrym5

Beautiful system! How would you compare the Wavestream to the Aesthetix?
And why did you choose the Graham rather than the Vector?

piedpiper

Wow beautiful place you got there. That TT is simply awesome...great choice of gear. You are spoiled for great music in SF - I am most envious.

shadorne

Owner
System edited: Just changed my long (4.5M) from pre-amp to amps to Stealth Indra. What an improvement. My system is really sounding the best ever right now.

gerrym5

Beautiful room....How do you like the phono amp? Thinking of optimising that in my system before I mess with more arm/cartridge combos. I have heard that my phono preamp is good, not great, and I believe my turntable should kick more butt on my Meitner than it currently does,although it definitely administers a 12 round decision, it's not a first round knockout.

Cheers,
Chris

mount_rose_music

Owner
Updated system 12/07 by adding Wavestream pre-amp and phono products.

gerrym5

Owner
Elberoth2, I have had no problems driving the W/P 8's - plenty of power for the W/P 8's loads. I was worried about that before I got them, but I heard this combination in the Lamm's CES room playing all this diverse music beautifully. So I took a chance and have not regretted it.

IMHO the Lamm 2.1's have better dynamics, music power, sound stage width and depth, and are more musical to my U.S. music ears. The Ankoru's do have that great Audio Note house sound being very musical but subtle in most ways. They were slightly underpowered, clipped, while playing big music pieces that I like. It does shock me that the Lamm's 18 watts sound more powerful and hardly ever clip than 75 watts Ankoru's. I can't explain that, but that's what I hear. I'm happier with the Lamm's Now I don't write well at all, so take the differences I'm describing not as good vs bad, but as slight preferences in taste. The Audio Note Ankuro's are my 2nd favorite amps. BTW, they are better looking than the Lamm's in our living room, and my wife does point this out to me often.

gerrym5

Do you have any problems with 2.1 driving System 8 speakers ? It is a tough load, isn't it ?

elberoth2

you think? nordost and wilson are good matches?
thanks..

cemito

Owner
Sorry I didn't see yiur enquiry til today. So much more dynamics and power while still having that real musical sound like the A.N.

gerrym5

How does Lamm ML2.1 compare to Ankoru ?

elberoth2

Hi Gerry,

Fantastic system you have there. May I enquire as to which tonearm cable you use with the Basis/Graham combo? Do you have any problems with routing the DIN cable in the available rebate under the Basis chassis?

Thanks and enjoy the music,

Aaron

drajreynolds

Wow, Beauty of a system and view. Great choice of equipment. Congratulations. Greetings from Maribor, Europe. Lobnik.

lobnik

Nice system you have, the Basis 2500+ Graham 2.2 de luxe+ Koetsu Onyx Platinum Cartridge + Aesthetix IO Sig... WOW, what a combination!

shade_of_pale

Seeing your system brings to mind all the great songs I have listened too. And wanting to hear them on a over the top system in a beautiful room such as yours. Simply great.

glenfihi

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