Description

When I was at CES a few years ago I had the pleasure of visiting the Lamm Industries room. The system was a pair of Wilson Watt Puppy 8s driven by the ML 2.1 monoblocks. I d heard the track from Stevie Ray Vaughan hundreds of times before .. but what I listened to that day was unlike anything I’d ever come across in any hi-end audio system.

To put it succinctly it was the most "organic" sounding system I had ever heard. It went beyond hi-fi and to a place where the music and the performance sounded live, real, right there in front of me I'd heard Lamm solid state amps previously and although I liked them, this went beyond the simple Lamm house sound. I left the room convinced that these amps were the missing piece in my system.

So I went about the research (and hand wringing) most audiophiles do when they are searching for the perfect match for their system. In my case unlike the venerable WP8s the Sophias needed more power than the ML 2.1’s brought to the table. In my system those watts were delivered courtesy of the Lamm ML 1.1’s.

It was a perfect fit. The organic sound that I wanted and the extra power I needed. When they arrived my wife's only comment was “they better sound good cause that's a face only a mother could love...” I assured her they would (to her credit she admitted after a little listening that they were indeed magical).

The end result has been wonderful, it has all the qualities I'd heard and fell in love with at CES. The combination with my Gen VIII and Sohias has left me a happy camper.

Now all I need is a bigger budget for music!!!
Read more...

Components Toggle details

    • Wilson Audio Sophia
    Sophias in Ferrari Fly Yellow.
    • Theta Digital Generation VIII Version 2
    Gen 8 Processor
    • Theta Digital Compli
    Theta Compli
    • Lamm Industries ML 1.1
    ML 1.1
    • Transparent MM2 Ultra
    Transparent MM2 Ultra single ended
    • Transparent MM Ultra
    Transparent MM Ultra
    • Logitec Slim Devices Squeezebox
    The addition of a new power supply from Channel Islands Audio completely transformed the piece. What an incredible bang for the buck. I use the digital out directly into my Theta Gen VIII

Comments 22

Good to hear.
Do you still have the Compli. I encourage you to get a better transport.
Even the new Compli Blu is much better for audio than the original Compli.

cappuccino

Owner
System edited: Over the last few years I lost my listening room and gained a few kids, the hobby went on hold until recently when my system found a new life sharing space with my home theater.

goten1969

hi frank

glad to see you're still in the game. couldn't agree w/ you more on the "too much power" dig...i recently gave up & went with mac 501s (500wpc), and it does make a diff, even in a room as small as mine.

do drop me a line, perhaps we can get together at some point over the summer?

best
rc

rhyno

Owner
System edited: ----- System updated ---- The wonderful ARC integrated has been replaced with the awesome and very smooth X1 and the EAD Powermaster 2300. Can you ever have too much power...... I dont think so.....

goten1969

Nice system, I couldn't agree with you more on the importance of the room.

lenny_zwik

Owner
Dmurfet, my speakers are about sixty inches from the back wall to the front of the speaker and thirty seven inches from the side wall. I've played around a bit with the positioning and I think this is the best they've ever sounded. I had them a bit closer together and to the back wall but started moving them around after reading the speaker placement articles on the Cardas website. Once in the new positions the bass was tighter and the whole system came into better focus. I still have some changes I'd like to make to the acoustic treatment in the room which will no doubt necessitate more shuffling around later…

goten1969

Owner
The cables are awesome. After installing them it took about ten seconds for my wife to say "hey honey you have your bass back"...

If your budget allows it go with the Ultra or Reference MM series, the bass will be more accurate than the super (not the only improvement of course). As you can see from the posting above I took my cables over to Rhyno for a test drive and he now owns a pair of Ultra MM. I’m afraid to have him come over with the Ultra cables; I know the result will be an immediate and unquenchable desire to upgrade.

My only advice to you if you decide to take the plunge is stick to the MM series (newest series). I've owned super, ultra and reference of the old series (with and without XL technology) and the new stuff is a HUGE improvement over all of it.

By the way in an attempt to try new things I went through MIT, PS Audio and various other cables before I went back to what I have now. Everyone has their preferences I suppose and I know I’ve found mine.

goten1969

What sort of distances are your sophias from front/side walls? Seeing how far I should push mine forward!

dmurfet

Love the yellow!!!

I really appreciate your posting…I am also from the school of “less is more” when it comes to audio. BTW, how are the Transparent speaker cables?

michaeltran647

Owner
The room treatments made a huge difference and yes I did roll my own. I created a four inch deep frame into which I put Auralex panels. The whole thing was covered in acoustically transparent cloth and has a backing that allows me to hang them flush. It was a fun project I undertook more as an excuse to play with some new power tools I received for Christmas. It turned out making an amazing difference on my listening experience. The soundstage is wider, deeper and it helped deal with my almost square room reflections. I would recommend room treatments to anyone.

goten1969

Nice system. Looks like you;ve put some real thought into components and the room. Did you roll your own room treatments? I am finally happy with my gear, so I;m thinking its finally time to tackle the room...

sdatch

Looks great and simple! You say you might sell the integrated and go to separtes, please let me know I would love to have the ARC piece..

Thanks

mixn4him

i'm in west houston, tx.

whereabouts are you?

(be a pleasure to have you by for a listen. i've recently completed some mods to the wavac that are a few weeks from finishing up, but should be quite nice when complete).

best
ryan

rhyno

Owner
Rhyno I tried PSAudio, Transparent, MIT, AudioQuest, Monster, Kimber, Tara Labs... etc. Overall the two that I preferred were the MIT and the Transparent. Those two were the most pleasing to my ear and with the combination of equipment that I had. After mixing and matching (I went through Transparent Plus, Super, Ultra and Reference all with XL and I went through Super and Ultra with MM) the one thing I can say is that the best combinations I found were always matched versions of speaker cables and interconnects (at least in the Transparent and MIT lines). The two cables tend to complement each other and give the best results. For example I recently tried Ultra XL with my Super MM and the results were not as good as going all Super MM thought.

I would buy the MM series if I could find it and start with a matched set. The one big plus of Transparent is that there’s always a market out there in case you decide it’s not for you. I would love to hear the Wavac they are puurrttyy....

Since you are close maybe I can bring it over and you can check it out (I also have some older MIT speaker cables you may want to check out just for fun).

Best of luck.

goten1969

did you happen to try any other cables prior to purchasing the transparent?

i have wilson WP6s w/ a wavac amp and i am very interested in finding the right speaker cable combo to match.

thanks
rhyno

rhyno

Owner
Carlos I purchased the VSi55 used so unfortunately I can't answer your question. I know that the manual says as tubes get older you start to loose some detail and the sound gets flat but that's all I can tell you.

The two things that really affected the way the VSi55 sounded in my setup was putting it on the PS Audio and the change of speaker and interconnects to Transparent MM. The change to the PS Audio really brought out the highs particularly horns. The change to the Transparent made the bass hit like my previous ARC 200 WPC (which is amazing for a 50 WPC piece).

goten1969

Owner
System edited: Speaker cables and interconnects changed to Transparent Super MM series.

goten1969

Do you know what is the burn in period of the VSi55? Did you hear any substantial difference in sound after the burn in period? Thanks in advance for your comments.
Carlos

[email protected]

Owner
Rhyno - Thanks for the complement. I’ve tried to keep the system as simple and clean as possible. The MIT cable is from my old system but I will be looking to replace the interconnects and speaker cable with either the newer MIT version with adjustable impedance networks or Transparent cable for both the interconnects and speaker cable.

goten1969

Owner
Kleech --- I haven't tried an ARC CD player but I have owned their amps before (the last ARC CD player I heard was years ago and it was a nice piece). I think it's likely that Im going to replace the intergrated with a two piece ARC setup. The LS25 MKII is a likely candidate and so is one of their 100-200 watt amps. I've only had to call audio manufacturers a few times in my life but the people at ARC have always been incredibly knowledgeable, helpful and polite so they have a customer for life. I think in terms of digital I am likely to go to a Meridian DVD/CD player so I can add a nice plasma TV to the top of that rack  (that won’t be anytime soon).

goten1969

nice looking system. probably sounds nicer.

what speaker cables did you try before arriving at MIT? any thoughts or advice you could impart?

tia!
rhyno

rhyno

Congrats on a beautiful setup!
Have you tried an ARC CD player?

kleech

Showing all 22 posts