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My family's system changed direction from the original intent and focus on HT to upgrades driven to enhance 2-channel music. I upgraded speakers from VSA 4JR speakers to Devore Fidelity Silverbacks. The sources of a Musical Fidelity A5 CDP and Clearaudio Champion are driven through the VAC Avatar Super KT88 based integrated amp. The VAC's HT pass through feature make it very easy to go back and forth.

Always interested in any suggestions or comments.
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    • Phillips 50 inch Plasma (66)
    There's nothing like Hi-Def! With this, I feel like we have a real HT.
    • Devore Fidelity Silverback Reference
    Dynamic and effortless sound.
    • Valve Amplification Company (VAC) Avatar Super
    Integrated with HT bypass, fits in nicely with rest of system.
    • K&K Maxxed Out Phono
    kit with upgraded cardas caps, built by my dad
    • Musical Fidelity A-5
    Dedicated Redbook Player.
    • Clearaudio Champion
    My first tt in 20+ years, good to be back into vinyl.
    • Clearaudio Satisfy
    Tonearm
    • ZYX Airy 3S-SB
    .24mv MC
    • Sunfire Ultimate Receiver
    200 X 7, used to drive 5.1 HT system and also zone 2 (kitchen). This piece has been great for HT.
    • Denon 2900 Universal
    DVD-DVD-A, SACD
    • Von Schweikert Audio LCR-15
    Full range center channel.
    • Von Schweikert Audio VR-1
    Used for the rear surrounds in the HT. Seamless integration with rest of system on multi-channel concert DVDs and SACDs.
    • Von Schweikert Audio VRS/1
    10" 300 Watt, fits in great with the other VSA speakers.
    • Audience AU24
    Connects MF-A5 to Sunfire
    • Analysis Plus Silver Oval Crystal
    Used for mains and center channel analog connection from DVD to Receiver
    • Auditorium 23 Speaker Cable
    Match well with silverbacks.
    • Analysis Plus Oval One
    Lower quality for the rear channels, listen to mostly stereo SACD or DVD-A but still pretty decent.
    • Balanced Power Technologies (BPT) BPT 2 Signature
    Balanced line conditioner
    • (BPT) C-7 Power Cords
    I have these feeding my sub, DVD, Receiver, and BPT conditioner.
    • Audience PowerChord
    Feeds the MF-A5 CDP from the BPT 2
    • Sound Application Outlet
    Wall outlet
    • AIW 6 AWG Indoor/Outdoor Wire
    Wire for dedicated line is real nice, 6 GA and 19 strand. My dealer was putting this into his new house and luckily there was enough left over for me to run my line.
    • Tributaries DCV 100 Comp Video
    Component video from DVD to Receiver and Receiver to Plasma. HDMI from Sat to Plasma for HDTV.
    • Tributaries Silver Subwoofer Y
    Sub interconnect

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I added the upgrade kit to the K&K maxxed out phono. Sounding great out of the gate.

maineiac

Owner
Thanks Pdreher, I see you have the MAC version of the KT88 integrated and I have always wondered how similar these integrated amps perform. The silverbacks are simply great speakers.

maineiac

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Hi Guppy, I have been enjoying the system and just adding software for the past couple of years. I just recently re-tubed everything in the VAC integrated bringing in some NOS pre tubes and new genelex kt88 reissues. I have also bought the upgrade kit for the K&K phono pre but haven't had a chance to get it installed (hate to take it out of service even for a couple of days). I think I will do it after we cycle through all the holiday breaks.

maineiac

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I listened to both the nines and the silverbacks in a similarly sized room to mine for my audition. They both sounded great but the silverbacks had that extra weight and overall presence. In my room, the bass is excellent in every way and not overpowering to any degree.

John DeVore is an excellent resource (I think he uses nines in his home system) and will tell you the straight scoop on what will work best for your situation.

maineiac

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System edited: Added ZYX Airy 3S-SB

maineiac

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System edited: Added K&K maxxed out phono stage.

maineiac

Owner
That's a pretty good hijack of a system thread, comparing my old speaker to something I've never had and is 2.5X the price. I don't know why or where that came from but I am glad that you like your dad's speakers - I am sure they are nice.

maineiac

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Hey two Chads in a row. Thanks for your comments Chadnliz. I would not characterize the 4JRs as aggessive, just that the Silverbacks' presentation of bass is tight and very well defined. I never tried the 4JR bi-amp with SS bottom and tubes on top. I think that would be a great combo for the 4JRs. I have heard Vandys on a few occasions and even owned an older pair of 2s but never used them in my main system.

The plasma is a bit high on the wall but that was necessitated by the furniture and equipment. I actually have never noticed it as a problem in the 3 years that it has been in that spot. I guess the viewing distance is long enough to minimize the angle problem and I like to slouch on the couch. I am seriously considering a second plasma/lcd to place to the left so two sporting events can be watched simultaneously. I usually have sports on but listen to music.

maineiac

Owner
Hi Chad,

I am enjoying the Silverbacks. I very much liked the 4JRs but the Silverbacks are more refined, have tighter bass, and have better efficiency which is a good match for my system. They hold the music together amazingly well at higher volumes. I am still toying with placement.

maineiac

Owner
System edited: Swapped out VSA-4JRs for Devore Fidelity Silverback, changed to Auditorium 23 speaker cables. Also added Timbernation 2" maple blocks on brass footers under turntable. OK, it is now just really about the music.

maineiac

Owner
I don't have a reference for the cartridge since this is my first analog setup in 20+ years. All I know is I really love the sound and I think there is still a bit of break-in to be had since it is so new. I am amazed at the absolute quality and am thoroughly enjoying my new collection of music that I have pulled together on a pretty minimal investment. I have found a spot that i can get great selections that are in great shape for a $1 a disc (not goodwill). I've just got to teach the wife to clean records for me and I will be all set. Can you tell me how you set it up as far as VTA and VTF?

maineiac

Owner
Yes I have the latest version. I am interested to hear about the new VAC that will be coming out soon.

maineiac

Owner
System edited: Added the Clearaudio Turntable, Satisfy Arm, and Benz Glider cartridge to get me back into vinyl.

maineiac

Owner
Congratulations on the A5 CDP Chad - I did not discern a long break-in like you will get with speakers or wires. I did put mine on repeat and let it play for about a week when I first got it. I am glad to hear that it is very close to the Lector, I had a Lector on order for months and finally got fed up and bought the A5 which I have really liked. I was big into SACD with my 2900 before I got my A5, now I only use it to watch movies.

maineiac

Owner
Thanks for your comments Chad. The A5 is an excellent integrated amp, I demoed it in my system and it had a really great bass punch and dynamics. I got a decent deal on the VAC and it was recommended by VSA so I jumped on it. The A5 CDP is very nice and I am sure you would enjoy it in your system.

maineiac

Owner
Awesome on getting the 4JRs, I am sure you will fall in love with them. My room is 18 X 24. The dealer where I auditioned had them in a smallish room and they worked great in there. Key is to keep anything from being in between them if you can (I can't - but I'm thinking of how to work around it). I originally had the system wedged into a corner next to the fireplace with one speaker up on the hearth believe it or not. I fixed this by switching to the long wall and took the opportunity to run the dedicated AC. I also covered the wall of windows on the opposite side with a good heavy curtain. I have found that there is a very precise spot and toe-in angle where the speakers have to be to optimize soundstage and bass. I got VSA to get me new spikes as the original bent, even without lead shot. I do have lead shot in now. Best of luck.

maineiac

Owner
That pheasant came from Iowa. I used to go every year on a hunt but haven't been for a few years. They go up like rockets.

maineiac

Owner
System edited: The addition of the VAC Avatar Super finally has me to a point where I have very good performance in both music and HT in a single system. This is a great AMP, excellent soundstage and detail but never harsh, and decent bass performance as well.

maineiac

Owner
Jayctoy, I am not sure where the CD racks came from, my wife found them in a furniture magazine and ordered as a present.

maineiac