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This system has been a work in progress Since 1980. I bought my first audiophile gear at Hi Fi Haven, which was a high-end audio dealer in my college neighborhood in NJ. This was not a part of town you'd expect an audio store, on its left was a strip club and on its right was Greasy Tony's Cheesesteaks, which was open all night and staffed with the shadiest motley crew imaginable. Ah, you gotta love college in NJ when the drinking age was 18. Most of my friends frequented the two latter businesses, I think I was the only one who added HiFi Haven as a point of interest.

At HiFi Haven, a guy named Peter Cuddy took the time to teach me how to listen, not just hear. For that I'm not sure if I am eternally grateful or really pissed off for letting a college kid buy a cassette deck in the 4 figures. I wonder if he's still around? Can't blame him, since way before we met, I had (as an adolescent) been putting what my wife calls audio-porn up on my bedroom walls. The one I remember distinctly was a cool Sansui receiver with a lit up FM dial I was drooling over at 14 years old. I also remember enhancing the sound of my crappy plastic all-in-one's speakers by reinstalling them in... wait for it, empty one gallon cardboard milk containers. They sure sounded way better... By 15, I was totally hooked.

As an adult, I tend to choose very good elements that sound great together and hold on to them for a long time while I enjoy my system thoroughly. Only recently did I sell that first piece of gear, which I admit was a strange way to start my Audiophilia – a Nakamichi 680ZX. All those cool phosphorescent lights and knobs to play with... who knew a source component would have been a better choice?

I love gear, but what I really care about is music. As I write this, I've got my AKGs on (wife's asleep), listening to Dexter Gordon's One Flight Up on a pristine Blue Note test pressing. The combination of my analog front end (both the Alphason/Madrigal set-up and the Townshend/Kiseki rig), fed through the VAC and driven by the Raptor is producing such gorgeous, live sound that it's hard to imagine it getting any better.

Stop laughing, I know we've all felt this way many times... until we reach the next level, where we are once again slack-jawed and astonished that "we've never heard that before!"

Thanks for reading. Your thoughtful comments are most welcome. Except about the photos, I know they suck. I'll get to them one day. Cheers!
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    • Townshend Audio Rock 7
    The Trough Rules. TAS Golden Ear 2011
    • Townshend Audio Merlin 3
    DC motor and regulated power supply
    • Helius Omega
    Great match with the Rock 7
    • Kiseki PurpleHeart NS
    The giant killer.
    • Alphason Sonata
    My first truly high-end source, now vintage, from 1988. Sounds amazing!
    • Alphason HR-100s
    Pure Titanium arm. Unbendable. Wired with Van Den Hul Mono-crystal silver.
    • Ortofon Cadenza Bronze MC
    Slammy, speedy and detailed, yet smooth as silk.
    • Valve Amplification Company Signature MkIIa MC/MM
    Best pre I ever heard.
    • Valve Amplification Company Phi 200 Mono Blocs
    Unbelievable Monoblocs. Another amazing jump in musicality and impact.
    • Bob's Devices 1131 Blue
    Wonderful Phono Step Up Transformer (see my review).
    • Thiel Audio CS 3.7
    Incredible. I've never heard my system sound better. Audio heaven.
    • REL Acoustics T5 (two of them)
    A pair of compact, amazingly tight and fast subs that disappear and enhance everything!
    • PurePower PurePower+ 2000 AC Regenerator
    One the the best upgrades I ever made. System never sounded better. Instant, jaw-dropping improvement.
    • High Fidelity Cables CT1 UR Helix Power cable
    This is in a league of its own. The clarity it allows my system to show is beyond belief.
    • Paul Speltz Audio Anti-Cables and Anti-ICs
    Speaker Cables and ICs that reveal truth and disappear... even with really long runs!
    • Paul Speltz Audio Power Cables Beta
    Prototype Power Cable from the wizard of wires. What a difference, even when placed after the AC regenerator!
    • Ray Samuels Audio The Raptor
    Headphone amp that reveals every nuance, good or bad.
    • Audeze LCD3 Headphones
    Possibly the world's best headphones.
    • AKG K702 Reference Headphones
    Headphones that don't fatigue me at all... both in sound and comfort. I can listen for hours.
    • Salamander 40 Audio Rack
    Solid stand with metal mesh ventilated sides that fit in my room and met the WAF.
    • Audio Desk Vinyl Cleaner
    I was amazed at the difference in overall sound when I cleaned my first LP... and it was new!
    • Onzow Zero Dust Stylus Cleaner
    This thing is weird and amazing.
    • Lyra SPL Stylus Performance Stuff
    A little hard to work with if your hands aren't 100% steady. Need a good light and a magnifier if you're over 50.
    • Milty Zero Stat Static Eliminator
    The blue gun of death for clicks and pops caused by static electricity.
    • Hunt E.D.A. Mark 6 Record Brush
    Great dust magnet, but need to hold it just right on the record or it slows my heavy belt-driven platter to a stop.
    • Critical Listening Education pdf Document
    How I learned to listen. Download the page that started my audiophile life, circa 1980: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/17725584/Critical%20Listening.pdf

Comments 11

Owner
Happy New Year, Thieliste!
Nice to hear from another CS3.7 audiophile. They do still sound unbelievably good in my system, even against $50k speakers. I got one of the last pairs from a dealer after Jim Thiel passed away and the company went through its ugly sale to amateurs who then had to shut it down. I tell anyone who will listen the if you can find an undamaged pair on the used market, don't hesitate... owners rarely part with these gems when fed by the right source and amplification.

Enjoy your Thiel 3.7s, as they are a very special gift to the audiophile world!
All the best, Alonski

alonski

I also have Thiel CS 3.7s in my main system since 2014.
They are still my favorite speakers after having owned smaller Thiel models before that.
Hope to be able to purchase a good tube preamp and a pair of monoblocks in the near future to get the best out of my 3.7s.
@alonski  Congrats for your beautiful Thiel-VAC system, must sound spectacular!

thieliste

Alonski, question if I may - I just installed a new Kiseki Purpleheart NS having replaced my Ortofon Cadenza Bronze.  Can you please describe your breakin experience with your Kiseki?  Thank you, markdmenATcableone.net.

markmendenhall

Alonski, question if I may - I just installed a new Kiseki Purpleheart NS having replaced my Ortofon Cadenza Bronze.  Can you please describe your breakin experience with your Kiseki?  Thank you, markdmenATcableone.net.

markmendenhall

Owner
Hi Jeff,
I still use the "system I had before" in that I still enjoy my vintage Alphason Sonata with the pure Titanium tone arm that I bought in 1988 in Toronto. It still sounds amazing, but after almost 30 years of continuous use, the motor started showing signs of age. So now I've got a cool DIY project as I'm upgrading the deck with the addition of an outboard DC regulated motor.

I used to own a wonderful 3008A Tandberg Pre-Amp, and I still have my original Electron Kinetics Eagle 2A SS Amp. I've been in love with the Thiel sound for decades. I had a great pair of CS 2s for many years.

As to how to pick components... it's different these days: a lot of audio gear is purchased online, with the buyer never having heard the sound. If you're lucky enough to have a high-end audio dealer within an hour or two, go there! And whatever you take home, make sure they offer a trial period for full refund or credit in case it just doest work in your system.

I got really lucky with the Rock 7. I bought it on an intuition after reading a stellar review by Robert Greene. I have some audio design heroes, like Kevin Hayes of VAC, who uses Thiel CS 3.6s to voice his amps before shipping, and of course the late Jim Thiel himself, whose CS 3.7s are a lifetime achievement and a legacy. Also, Richard E. Lord of REL who was one of the pioneers of sub-bass systems that didn't ruin the music but just made it seamlessly able to do so much more.Now with The Rock, I'm adding Max Townsend to the hero list. If you have dealers who carry hero-level components, go hear them.

alonski

Alon,
What system did you have "before" this one?
Or What led you to the final choices?

My Top 3 are Thiel,Magnapan, and Devore
& Bryston and Audio Research for sources.

& last but not least, I have never heard of the "rock"!!
Where did you hear that first?

Ps: more & better system & room pics are needed

JEFF

frozentundra

Owner
Wow. Thanks Jeff, Frank and Bdp24 for all the appreciation! It feels great to have a system that hangs together so well. I had an audiophile friend over yesterday and he just sat there, in the sweet spot, eyes closed, shaking his head and smiling. If you want to read how I learned to listen critically, click the last line item on my list. It's a story and related document you'll not see anywhere else.

Jeff, I purchased one of the last pair of CS3.7s the company sold before the new owners discontinued them. These were clearly Jim Thiel's legacy and masterpiece and yes, they are remarkable, especially for the price.

Frank, I remember Eric from HiFi Haven! Ditto on the demise of audio salons.
At least we experienced them in their heyday, right?

Bdp24, I salute you back for even knowing about the Rock... It is one wonderful 'table!

Cheers,
Alón

alonski

Alonski, I think the fellow I referred to who wound up at 6th Avenue was "Eric".

plato

Hey Alonski,

Nice system. I loved your comments about HiFi Haven. In my youth, that was one of my favorite places too. I recall hearing the Dahlquist DQ 10, Acoustat X with tube Servo-charge amps, and even the amazing Infinity Servo-Static 1A's which to this day may be the most amazing speaker array I've ever experienced. Whoever managed the store must have had a true Golden Ear.

"Peter" sounds familiar, but I don't remember all the guy's names anymore. I do recall being upset when I found one of them working at the chain "Sixth Avenue Sound" after HiFi Haven closed its doors. It's a shame there are no audio salons like that anymore.

Frank A

plato

How can ya NOT love a system with a Rock?! It's not everyone who values and appreciates what it does for LP reproduction, and is willing to accommodate it's ergonomic demands and requirements. I salute you!

bdp24

Wow, Nicely done.
Where did you get the Thiel 3.7? I Thought they were discontinued?

I love the Thiel sound.
And the VAC combo must be superb with detail....
& add subs!!!! Wow

And all analog.
I ORIGIONLLY thought digital was the best till I HEARD side by side comparisons.....

You must have excellent hearing.& listening skills.
Keep up the direction & I Would love to hear.

Jeff

frozentundra

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