I owned the M3 for four months and loved it. I sold it to my room mate so i still listen to it a lot, it is truly a special piece. If you can find one for less than 3500.00 its worth it. I think i would prefer it over the W-5 P-5 combo, at least if my friends oppinion of those amps are right. It was much better than my dad's Plinius Sa-250 Mk IV and Levinson 380 combo... as a reference.

lordgorian April 30, 2002 23:18

I have heard the levinson integrated and the YBA and was happier with my sim, but I have always like the sound of the Rowland and I would not be suprised if the MF M3 was great. Actually I am going to go and listen to the Electrocompaniet and the Cary 306/200, we will see, I like what I have now, but I will also try out the new power condition and see, thanks again

smjason April 30, 2002 19:05

The Emc 1 Mk II is far better than the Meridian and is comparable to the Linn CD 12. Anyways i would look into the Rowland Cocnetra mk I and mk II and the Muscial Fidelity Nu Vista M3. Other ones are the new bel canto integrated.... which is stunning... the levninson 383, the chord 3300, gryphon tabu and the new YBA Passion integrated. The BAT integrated that just came out and possibly the Ayre are really good as well. The Mini Utopias dont need much power so you may not need a super powerful amp. I looked heavily into buying them for myself but chose Talons instead. They are wonderful speakers and my dad has Utopias which i have yet to hear... but i am eager to see how the Talons compare. Hope this helps .....

lordgorian April 30, 2002 14:56

Unplug the power conditioners for about a few days and then plug them back in. You might be surprised.

chelillingworth April 30, 2002 08:51

You think that the EMC sounds better than a meridian, is the upsampling that helps it, I was thinking about a upsampling player but wasn't sure, also anyone have any suggestions of other integrateds that are better, thanks

smjason April 30, 2002 01:24

Wow im very impressed. For a college system this simply rocks. I agree with the other comments. I have a stealth and love it and the Sim needs upgrading. Also if i were you i would consolidate your funds in digital into one amazing 2500.00 dollar player like the EMC 1 MKII which makes redbook sound a bit better than SACD did on my old SCD 777 ES. Im very impressed ... incredible for a college system.... i can show my dad your system and maybe now he will stop calling me crazy!! :-)

lordgorian April 29, 2002 17:21

Save up and replace the Moon. Not that it isn't good, but at this level you can do much better.

james22 April 29, 2002 14:16

Nice system. I would check out the Audio Magic Stealth Power Conditioner. I lent Tony my CF-X with FIM cord (retails at almost 6k) and he says the Stealth beats it, by a lot. I personally know the CF-X to be a big step up over the P300. It might be worth looking in to.

ejlif April 29, 2002 14:05