Description

I prioritize the mid range using dual-mono class A amplification with a tube preamp and solid state power amps feeding 2.5 way speakers. I have tried to minimize mechanical, electrical and acoustic anomalies. The final pictures show how a distributed bass array subwoofer system (Swarm) and room treatment contribute to a smoother and extended frequency response with a reduction in room modes along with good decay times. But the real magic comes from the direct-coupled midrange. 
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Room Details

Dimensions: 28’ × 18’  Large
Ceiling: 8’


Components Toggle details

    • Roon Labs Nucleus Plus Streamer
    Tony Pardo LPS; Qobuz
    • Playback Designs MPD-8 DAC
    USB-X4 PLink fiberoptic interface with Swagman Labs Signature Edition LPS
    • DS Audio DS003 Cartridge and Equalizer
    • Eminent Technology ET2 Tonearm
    High pressure manifold with upgrades; manometer
    • VPI Industries HW-19 MkIV ÜnStock Turntable
    Black Diamond Racing Shelf for the Source; Boca ceramic bearing; Sota Total Eclipse SAMA with Sota LPS; modified base and suspension with Black Diamond Racing Cones, Herbie's Audio Lab Tenderfeet and Pucks, Rotalocks. 
    • Vinnie Rossi L2 Signature DHT Preamplifier
    Western Electric or Takatsuki 300Bs
    • JL Audio CR-1 Crossover
    • Pass Labs XA 60.8 Monoblock Amplifiers
    • Wilson Benesch A.C.T. 3zero Loudspeakers
    • Townshend Seismic Isolation Podia
    Wilson Benesch A.C.T. 3zero
    • Dayton Audio SA1000 Subwoofer Amplifiers
    • James Romeyn DEBRA Subwoofer System (aka Swarm)
    Distributed bass array with 10 inch drivers
    • IsoAcoustics GAIA III Footers
    James Romeyn DEBRA (Swarm)
    • Empirical Design Cables

    ED 422X XLR: MPD-8 to L2S to CR-1

    ED 422AX XLR: CR-1 to XA 60.8

    ED 422 RCA: DS003 cartridge to equalizer to L2S

    ED Omniwire RCA: CR-1 to SA1000s 

    ED 213 Speaker Cable: bi-wired XA 60.8 to ACT 3zeros

    ED 416X Power Cords: XA 60.8s, L2S, MPD-8, CR-1, DS 003, Tony Pardo, Swagman Labs, Niagara 1200

    • SolidSteel Equipment Racks
    HF Series 4-shelf rack divided into a two shelf rack and two amp stands
    410 rack
    • Indiana Michigan Power
    3 dedicated 15 amp circuits
    • Environmental Potentials EP-2050-EE Surge Protector
    Whole house surge protection
    • AudioQuest Niagara 1200 Power Conditioner, Vodka Ethernet Cable, Dragon USB Cable
    Vodka: Xfinity modem to Nucleus Plus 
    Dragon: Nucleus Plus to USB-X4
    • Furutech Power Cords
    DIY to SA1000 subwoofer amplifiers
    • Vicoustic Room Treatment
    Multifuser Wood 64 MkII: front and side wall
    FlexiWave Ultra: front and side wall
    Multifuser DC3: ceiling
    Super Bass Extreme Ultra: front corners
    Ultra Wavewood Diffuser: front and side Walls
    • GIK Acoustics Room Reatment
    242 Acoustic Panels: side walls and ceiling
    Polyfusors: side walls
    Turbo Trap Pros: rear corners 
    B4 Acoustic Panels: side walls
    244 Acoustic Panels: side walls
    Gotham Quadratic Diffusers: rear wall
    • Acoustimac Room Treatment
    Side wall and doors
    • Preston 9 x 13 Handmade Solid Area Rug
    Wool, cut pile, 1/2" with  3/8" felt pad
    • Nitty Gritty Model One Record Cleaning System
    Original version with motorized capstan and vacuum
    • MiniDSP UMIK-2 Microphone
    REW
    • Zero Surge 2 Outlet Power Filter
    SA1000 Subwoofer amps
    • Sonos Connect 1st Generation Streamer
    For her Spotify account

Comments 22

Owner
Thanks for commenting. I do enjoy the sounds it produces and I probably spend 2 to 4 hours a day listening to it. It's that pleasurable.

Since I still occasionally listen to vinyl, I need a separate preamp and I would probably miss the qualities that a valve front end gives me. I've not tried because I am still enamored of the current set up. As I become bored and continue my tweaking, I may well but at this point I'm not sure I want to since the thought of swapping cables every time I wanted to listen to vinyl is not appealing.  If I were to go without a separate pre-, and still wanted an analog input, I would probably do the MPD – 8AI. 

I recognize it's all a matter of taste, but the Playback Designs unit has me unwilling to get off my butt and change records.

tcutter

Absolutely awesome system!

Have you ever tried running the system with the PD MPD-8 DAC as the preamplifier without the VR L2 preamplifier?

Asking because I have a VR L2i-SE with its DAC 2.0. My future will most likely be an AGD MK II Andante preamp/DAC or a PD MPD-6 or MPD-8 used as a preamp. 

bernardo

Beautiful space. Congrats

archguy

Owner
Thank you. I like the wood diffuser on the front wall because it looks nice it makes a difference in the sound stage and overall clarity. 

Obviously, I am in the camp that believes that crossing over your mains with a high pass has advantages over running the mains full range and just adding the subwoofer. I believe the JL audio unit did this better than any others. For the price anyway

I biamped my system with the monoblocks high passing to the Vectors at 80 Hz and a distributed base array picking up a low pass also at 80 Hz. While  there are other crossovers out there, Marchand, Pass Labs, and others, I felt the CR-1 provided the best quality and features. Infinite crossover points, volume control, A-B switching (with/ without subs), and "damping", which allows one to control the bandwidth of the crossover point. It only has second and fourth order slopes and they have to be the same which is a little disappointing but certainly not a dealbreaker. I use Dayton SA 1000 subwoofer amps which provide a little more control over the final sound.


tcutter

Nice system and great room. I like your room treatments. I'm a real proponent of diffusion behind the speakers. 

What do you use the electronic crossover for? I'm planning to experiment with biamping my speakers, but haven't had a chance yet.

jaytor

Owner
Owner
(Hit post too soon)

Proac Tablettes, and Linn Isobariks (terrible speaker). Read about Wilson Benesch and the science behind their design appealed to me so I tried a pair of Trinities. Magical, but bass shy.  The Vectors were from the next generation and shared components with their top-of-the-line speaker, The Cardinal. They design virtually all of their components and manufacture something like 90% in house. Their form factor is very similar to Magico, but while Magico uses the brute force of a big block of aluminum to house their drivers, Wilson Benesch uses technology and carbon fiber. I get the impression it is virtually the same stiffness in a much more compact and lighter package. They also use a 2 1/2 way design that allows the mid range to operate without a crossover, which I think is responsible for some of their coherence. I will not call them the poor man's Magico because I think they stand on their own and can directly compete, although it a lower price point.

They are not well known in the United States and their marketing is weak but I believe they are very popular in Europe and even more so in Asia. They don't need the US market. I would say it is our loss.

tcutter

Owner
I know many people  emphasize tweaking cables, power cords, fuses, etc. I've been putting my money into room treatments and once that gets settled (if ever), then I'll start looking at the more subtle tweaks. Room treatment can make a significant difference, far more than electronics and tweaks. The skyline diffusers on the ceiling made the room open up.Next to speakers, I don't think anything influences the sound more. 

I can say I've always been fond of the British sound having owned Kef 101s and 105.2s, Proacp

tcutter

Thanks for commenting on my system. Your setup looks really good, well done!
Love the room and the treatments.  I agree with one of your earlier comments, room treatment done properly makes a significant difference. You also have great equipment. How do you like your WB speakers? They are always of interest to me as I'm partial to British speakers. If I ever replace my Reference KEF 107's, WB would be on my short list. Thanks again for the comment. 

dmiller01

Very nice system and I like what you've done with the acoustic treatments.  Well done!

reynolds853

Owner
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery ;)

I mounted them differently than what Vicoustic recommends and am happy to share that with you via PM if you would like.

tcutter

Much appreciated. If you don’t mind, I’m going to steal your style, especially the front wall treatments. Your room just looks phenomenal.

arafiq

Owner

Sorry. My reply did not paste well. Here are the details. 


Vicoustic:

Front wall: Multifuser Wood 64 MkII and Flexi Wave Ultra

Ceiling: Multifuser DC3

Front corners: Super Bass Extreme Ultra

Front and Side Walls: Wavewood Diffuser Ultra MkII

tcutter

Owner
Thank you. The treatments are listed below. For much of the Vicoustics products, I have used a German  company. Even with shipping, the prices are superior to domestic suppliers. 

    • Vicoustic Various
    Front wall: Multifuser Wood 64 MkII and Flexi Wave Ultra
    Ceiling: Multifuser DC3
    Front corners: Super Bass Extreme Ultra
    Front and Side Walls: Wavewood Diffuser Ultra MkII
    • GIK Acoustics Various
    Side Walls: 242 and 244 Acoustic Panels
    Rear (screen) Wall: Gotham 23 Quadratic Diffusers
    • Acoustimac Acoustic Panels
    Side wall and doors

tcutter

 Beautiful room! Love the treatment on the front wall (behind speakers). May I know where you purchased from and what specific models?

arafiq

What a wonderful room, great system as well. Good job 👍

honeyooi

You have a very nice system!  I am also an analog enthusiast and your setup seems dialed in.  Congratulations and enjoy the music!

mscetal

Superb room and nice attention to acoustics. My number one recommendation is you need LARGE towers for this size room. I went exactly through that process in my house of stereo. Size does matter.

baylinor

Hey Tcutter great looking room and killer system! And welcome back to your analog roots it's so warm and cozy there ain't it? ;)

jond

Incredible setup and room.  Beautiful system.  Looks like you have all the bases covered included room treatments.

kclone

Owner
Thanks. I see we share some of the same approaches to our hobby, but your system is way more developed than my relatively modest set-up.

tcutter

Very cool.

tonywinga

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